#employeerelations

Many of us would just like to be done with CA. The constant layoffs create undue stress on the employees. The stress and the health effects are not worth a couple of dollars extra.
But I wanted the severance as many of us do. Afterall in the world of layoffs why should we get the severance when we leave.
So, this is how I did it.
1) Quietly back off on the work you do. Be less productive but not to the point where HR takes notice.
2) Throw in a couple of mistakes here and there.
3) This is key. Casually let your boss know that you are thinking about retiring or leaving the company. Nothing official and absolutely nothing in writing. Provide no solid date.
a. If you do this well, they will start planning for your departure.
4) Never quit. Just mention is casually here and there. Eventually they will plan for your departure but when you do not leave, they will be forced into a layoff.
There! Several is not many thousands of dollars in your pocket.

As many of you know, there are almost 300 spots for VSP in France.
Till now, only a punch of people (less than 30) have applied.
They are basically offering the same package of 2 years ago and expecting people to leave lol, especially with the current situation

Does anyone know if the company mails out W2s prior to January31st?

Its a sad state of where the company is today, when most people I talk with now are no longer scared of being laid off, they are actually hoping for it. Most people now are hoping their number is called like we are waiting for the lottery numbers to be published. Hand me my check and I'll be on my way! Staying behind and taking on more work for the same pay is actually the negative part of this, not getting laid off. The lucky ones get their papers and get a chance to breath and find what's next!

Last year, I was informed that I would have to switch to a non-exempt contract because the salary limit had been exceeded with the last agreed increase. Has anyone else received this? It gave me the impression that they wanted to get everyone from the old collective contracts. Has anyone refused this?

Made it through the last round of RIFs but decided to retire if I'm not RIFed in 1Q2026. No reason to keep training people who can't follow instructions. No reason to have output that is ignored or manipulated. No reason to appease yet another new department "leader" who is begging to be propped up to collect a huge salary.

It is time to go. Fortunately for me, having been through years of RIFs, we saved CASH all along the way and have a few years salary in the bank. Health insurance taken care of too. Time to look for something new after a break from VZW. I had a good 24 year run.

Evolent started the new year with another round of layoffs on 01/15/26.
Approximately 125 people so far located in US, Philippines and India.

Thing is, they lay off all your closest colleagues (various departments) until they ki-l off the business, leaving the few remaining staff overworked, disengaged and depressed. Then they say we can only recruit more people when we grow the business. And so the downward spiral continues (a bit like the share price).

We all know the bank changed the severance package last year. But I’m hearing from long time employees that you’re able to negotiate a longer severance.
Is any of that true?

I need to get proof that I was covered by group health insurance. Is there a way to contact HR that anyone is aware of. Thanks.

The crashes of two Boeing 737 MAX planes which claimed the lives of 346 people on board and how Boeing may have been more concerned with financial gain over the safety of their passengers. Guess what they didn't listen to their Engineers and the same thing is happening at Verizon. Obviously losing cell service for a day isn't as catastrophic as a plane falling out of the sky, but the same principals are applied. Watch the documentary on Netflix Downfall: The Case Against Boeing

Just got an Email to Onboard a Person in India - New Offshore Team. How much time do I have ? I've been here 6.5 Years.

20 percent of team gone, not even being offshored. The positions are gone. The irony is the directors/managers who found out who’s impacted on their team do not know if they themselves are impacted (only their boss will be told at this time ). So the final number could be higher in department. Just a terrible way to do things. So if you are a leader and get a random call today from boss, hr, or a vp you barely ever interact with you will know someone on team is impacted.

And no fmla will not save you.

Best of luck to everyone, on one hand it su-ks but on other hand at least everyone can move forward (for one month before the survivors are pulled into the ringer again)

Announced at 10:30am EST on 1/15/2025 the SDR organization including Small business and Government teams have all been let go, effective immediately. Not just 30% of the workforce as was being reported. The entire Org has been eliminated.

Lots of layoffs going on @ Irving, got hit myself.
Wish everyone the best of luck, sure we’ll be back again in a couple months.

AT&T literally:
sells connectivity
sells remote access
sells cloud voice
sells VPNs
sells mobile data
sells collaboration tools
…while forcing its own people to drive 2 hours a day to sit on Teams calls in an open space with no assigned seating.

Add Stank - a tired, clueless, utility salesman, now targeting and trolling Tmobiles LinkedIn, begging for customers.

Add a stock thats dropping from 28 to now down to 23, it will keep going down.

Could you be more pathetic?

I got the letter to move or be added to the surplus list, and I have to reply in the next 2 weeks by a certain date. My manager noted that I could let them know before the date and get more information sooner. Any thoughts on if this puts me into the system quicker or speeds up the timeline? I don't yet have another job, but I'm looking. If I stay and find another job, I must wait until the date they say I'm off payroll...so thoughts on what is the best course of action? I'm trying to read vacation and other policies so I'm sure what to do in case I find something else quicker, but highly doubt it will happen.
Management employee with over 24 years, just trying to do the right thing in the right order.

My manager set my performance review for Jan 23.

That Jan 23 is also the last date for performance review.
Should I be worried.

I am not the OP but I agree, this needs to stay on top. The original is posted multiple times below. With nearly 15,000 views, it is definitely resonating with personnel. You don't have to be in HSE to know exactly what this poster is talking about.

I have worked for three companies before this one. Each had its flaws, but each, in its own way, understood something basic about decency. When I came to CVX, my fourth, I was told, again and again, that the culture was different. Healthier. Kinder. A place where people stayed because they were valued.

I believed it. For a long time, I wanted to.

Six years in, I can say without hesitation that this is the most hostile environment I have ever survived and I started on a rig in Midland, TX.

What makes it dangerous isn’t incompetence or chaos, it’s intention. Everything here is calculated. Smiles are worn like disguises. Praise is given only when it can be reclaimed later as leverage. If your work is good, someone else will quietly attach their name to it. If your ideas land too well, they stop being yours almost immediately.
And if you are noticed, truly noticed, by the wrong person, especially your boss, the consequences are swift and surgical. Threats are not confronted; they are dismantled. Slowly. Invisibly. By the time you realize what’s happening, your reputation has already been rewritten without you in the room.

Gossip is the real currency here. Cruelty, its favorite language. Personal lives are treated as public property, mined for weaknesses. An affair. A secret. A truth shared with the wrong person. Even something small, once discovered, is inflated until it becomes unmanageable. Stories grow teeth. Context disappears. Suddenly, survival feels like something you have to apologize for.

This is not a place where mistakes are forgiven. It is a place where they are archived.
I used to think cultures were defined by mission statements and values posted on walls. Now I know better. Culture is what happens in whispers, in meetings you aren’t invited to, in credit you never receive, in silence when you need protection.

If this place has taught me anything, it’s that the most dangerous environments are the ones that insist they are safe.

Was just told by my coach in Maitland it’s official. Just waiting for the emails to go out now! Godspeed everyone! And fu-k T-Mobile and what they did to us! We won’t stop! We just Did!

Just sitting here and waiting, not knowing anything and just praying I'm not on the list...I can't wait for it to be over, one way or another.

Just turned in my resignation. I'll really miss the team, all of them are great people. This company itself is a completely different story, though. For anyone else feeling stuck, there are better options out there if you are persistent in looking. Wishing you all the best going forward.

I’ve spent 25 years at this company, mostly in the same role, believing that loyalty, consistency, and hard work would eventually be rewarded. Instead, I’ve watched good people, smart and committed people, get pushed out after giving decades of their lives to Dell. People who built relationships, hit numbers, raised families on the promise of stability, and were still treated as expendable when it became convenient.

Right now, it’s a deeply discouraging place to be. There is no real upward mobility anymore, no clear path forward, and no sense that experience or institutional knowledge matters. Employees are discarded quietly and almost casually, like yesterday’s problem. Leadership feels distant and disengaged, operating on autopilot, focused on protecting themselves and the balance sheet rather than the people doing the actual work.

Many roles now pay just enough to keep the lights on, but not enough to build a future. The work is heavier, the pressure is constant, and the rewards keep shrinking. Over time, it wears you down. You stop feeling proud of where you work. You stop believing things will improve. You watch your motivation fade, not because you stopped caring, but because the company stopped caring first.

It’s the kind of place that slowly drains the life out of you, not all at once, but quietly, year after year, until one day you realize how much time you’ve given and how little you’ve gotten back.

Has remaining ISO utility employees been moved from US to Poland? Also, who is the MD or supervisor over ISO utility function?

We had a guy all of a sudden “leave” our group. We all think he was either fired or laid off but our boss says he will be out “X amount of weeks.” No one believe him. I have been with the bank over 20 years and never heard of someone removed from the system and then put back in when they come back—?! Comments?

She is laughing her @ss off every time she thinks about her 20 million $ raise last year and the 20 million $ the year before that, knowing that YOU are not getting a dime.
All wrapped up in “the bar is raised, you guys need to step it up”. Rest assured she’s got the biggest smile on her face every night she lays down to go to sleep.

Don’t forget, you’re measured on results not attempts. If you don’t execute and complete successfully an already bad idea or direction given by management, lacking resources\headcount or not and that was doomed to fail to begin with, then you fail, not management.

All SDR teams received pack it up boxes! Good luck to everyone affected by this!

Folks. As a reminder, please use the secure print feature we all are supposed to use for confidential document printing. I stumbled upon “the list” which is the list of everyone who will be laid off in the coming weeks. For your convenience I have included a digital copy of the list. See More……..

What's the Vz USA policy , is porting out of corporate cell numbers our allowed at exit?

International employees are told that it's policy that numbers can be ported out if you can prove you ported your number in when you joined.

Approaching the salary and bonus review process in April, does anyone have any information or heard anything on whether there will be layoff in 2026?

Being laid off on the spot with an email or in a meeting with management and HR is bad enough already.

But was anyone here "managed out" which either led to you resigning or a termination of your contract? I believe the official term for this is constructive dismissal/discharge.

I was laid off in November and still haven't received severance. It is difficult to get ahold of anyone in HR. Anyone else experiencing this?

I was let go last year along with 200+ people. I considered myself lucky cause at least we got an informal notice ahead of time and that allowed me time to make financial decisions. Last day of work was end of March, followed by 60 days of pay work (all the way to end of May), followed by vacation pay in June and package arrived beginning of July. So lucky, some people experience longer delays. That said, nothing prepared me for how bad the job market is. It's 1000% an employers market. I have a graduate degree, certifications, 15+ years of experience, I stay current with technology (not a dinosaur), I live in the suburbs of major city, etc yet I'm still out there. I am not the only one from my group, some are back to work but took significant pay cuts working for smaller institutions, others are doing odd jobs, others went back to do extra certifications/school, etc. So if there's a strong signal your team will be impacted, I suggest you to start looking and start saving money. It's wild out there, it's as bad or worse than the 2008 crisis. This is not fear mongering! If you have some savings and have stayed many years at citi wait for the package, its good and will give you a buffer but if you don't have a money cushion then don't wait and start looking. I will add, I have kids and no other potential employer has match Citi's health insurance (as expensive as it's) so bear it in mind.

When do we get our 2% Pay Rise this year.
Any Mandatory Redundancy planned for this year.

Let’s stop pretending this five days a week RTO mandate is about collaboration, culture, or productivity. We already proved, clearly and measurably, that productivity increased while working remotely. During the pandemic, employees kept PNC stable, profitable, and operational under extraordinary circumstances. That wasn’t leadership from the top, that was workers carrying the bank on their backs.

Now the “reward” is being forced back into offices to sit on Teams calls all day, while absorbing thousands of dollars a year in new costs - gas, parking, commuting time, childcare, daily life friction - in an economy that’s already on fire. Wages haven’t kept up with the cost of living in years, people are stressed across the board, and somehow the solution is to make life harder for the people doing the actual work.

Let’s be honest about what this really is: empty buildings, tax incentives, sunk real-estate costs, and executive optics. Cities are upset. Balance sheets are uncomfortable. And instead of adapting to a proven, modern way of working, PNC chose to protect assets and executive compensation - at employees’ expense.

This decision makes one thing painfully clear: PNC doesn’t care about its people, its so-called “family,” or the reality employees are currently living in. It cares about making top tier executives even richer, no matter the cost. That isn’t leadership. It’s greed wrapped in a RTO memo. 🖕🏻

So no flexibility for me??? Great, no flexibility from me when there are system problems. At 5pm, I’m off the clock. I will leave my laptop in my locker. That’s all folks!

Everyone is on edge, wringing their hands hoping that all will be well in regards to their employment.

Lots of naysayers out there. Lots off people who desperately try to sell that its not use to look for jobs elsewhere. Lots of people who try to tell you that if someone got let go “it must be because they got a deserved 4 rating”.

While both can be true, neither is exclusively always true.

The one thing that I know for sure 100% is that you are guaranteed to NEVER find a job outside of Citi if you don’t start looking. Many don’t want to take the leap out of fear of starting over and having to prove themselves. Ok, then all the stress you get from Citi going forward will be forever shackled to you. If you don’t like your world then change your world. Easy, no. Quick, usually not. Impossible, absolutely not. Worth it, for piece of mind, oh you bet it is.

As one other poster mentioned, many people NEED to believe that if someone got let go its because they were a sustained 4 in all areas for an extended amount of time. They have to believe that so that they can take themselves out of that bucket that it could happen to them. They need to believe that if they do all the right things, they are safe.
The actual truth is much uglier than what they can handle.

Work hard, keep your head down, sharpen your skills. Search externally for jobs and apply. Rinse, repeat until you find something and move on. Keep in mind that Citi wants you to move on. They are taking measures to encourage you to leave. If you survive this round, then congratulations, you get to take up the slack for everyone else. You get more work and with most assuredly shortened deadlines with a higher expectations to never make a mistake. Keep in mind all the while with no increase in pay. Its ok though because it’ll be summed up with “don’t forget about your work life balance” speech. To Citi “work life balance” is that your family needs to be ok with you working all the time.

Ehealth chopped workers with higher salaries and kept the new people. Looks like the teams trained their own replacements without knowing. Low morality company.

If it is happening today I just want to say I've loved working with you all. I hope the right decisions are made but regardless, I hope you have amazing outcomes and a wonderful future.