#surplus

Employees dropping dead, equipment from 50 years ago dying, the phones DEAD, calendars empty, ticket list empty, EMPTY promises from leadership, all talk no action. Dead and rotting. Please surplus me already before I die of BOREDOM.

And to the shareholders:
Don’t believe them, they say they’re doing all this work to modernize the company but they’re NOT. It’s all smoke and mirrors. Below the VP level nothing is happening and no one cares. SELL SELL SELL.

Serious responses only as I am impacted by latest surplus. Is it possible to get a sales position without sales experience? There are so many sales positions listed currently. I have product knowledge and customer buy flow experience that has been acquired over time. Is sales position considered management position I.e. could it be a lateral transfer? Have others tried this route? Any feedback on this? Thanks in advance!

For those who got surplussed after moving to a hub, do you get severance offered again?

seriously, if you were really willing to get rid of xx amount of employees in a title, why not make the surplus number that same amount, rather than make the surplus number half that amount? This way the union can't tell you that they won't allow oversubscriptions, right?

Hope you see your surplus as a treat rather than a trick. Best of luck! Your future is bright.

I heard many people got laid off within a year after moving to a hub city. I want to know if any of them were in 40s or 50s and if the surplus was because they moved on their own or if their position was redundant due to their project getting closed.

So they started with training today across these centers of Expertise. Trainers were given their notice that they will be off payroll by the 15th of the month after previously being told they would not be losing their jobs with this next roll out of surpluses. They are alleged to continue through next Wednesday. Disrespectfully fu-k them because the whole plan is to replace them with unskilled floor support who barely know the business themselves and expect these folks they just fired basically, to skill them up in the interim. It is an utter sh-t show.

Curious if the rumor is true - notice 10/1, off payroll 10/15.

Any surplus/VTP planned for Dec 2026 or in 2027, and which región?

Transferred from FB Retirement page - I was surplused recently, prior to that I had to travel significantly due to RTO. I am now being approached by a journalist to discuss my experiences.
For those that were surplused, did we sign anything that does not allow us to be interviewed or discuss our opinions on AT&T RTO / FTW to news media?

Verizon surpluses union positions, out of 6k offered package how many will be backfilled my guess is 10 percent 600. Thoughts ? Is the 6k number accurate. We've seen facebook posts that NY had 1500, PA 1200, NJ 800 where is the other cuts? Is it more like 3k jobs?
Union getting destroyed as well?

Any news on # of surpluses that will be announced to the union tomorrow (9-15) and what titles will be affected ?

Any updates on management surplus the rest of the year?

Co-worker VZ ASSOCIATE in NY just received company offer via email regardg surplus declared and offer. Offer closes OCT 2 termination OCT 10.

Has anyone heard that there will be a management surplus notification on September 18th?

At least in my area, it seems like pretty much everyone who was offered the buyout is turning it down. Meanwhile, a lot of the people who actually want the buyout weren't offered one.

So what happens if the company is claiming a surplus but not enough people take the offer? Could they eventually move to layoffs? And if they do, would the people who were offered the buyout and chose not to take it be the first ones affected, or would layoffs go strictly by seniority? Also, the local is hush hush about this in my area.

Get ready, managers sending email asking to see who is interested In a VSP, which in other words if no one takes it will have a surplus!
Before any of you clowns start saying that it isn't true, I am in C and E district 6 and this happened today, also we are bargained for technicians not management.
Anyone know what the percentage is or have a clue if there is a list again like last time?
Be on your guard here comes the bo-m September 15th

Serious responses only please

All, my family in a different state (non hub/a 3h flight away from closest hub) needs my help. I’ll need to be there for regular medical appointments and to help them at home. I’m retirement eligible but way too young to retire. I have young kids & spouse who doesn’t work but supports the home/kids/their activities. I think I can get another job & I’m somewhat prepared. But now when I’m actually in this situation & having to decide if I should quit to support my family, it seems daunting. They’ll need my help for about 4-5 months. I could start looking for work after that. I have just enough buffer to last that time.

Should I take FMLA? Unpaid LoA? Does ageism exist i.e. would it better to try to stay?

If asking for be on surplus, is it too late for the rumored Sept date? Shd I ask for Dec?
To make matters worse, my immediate supervisor was surplussed this last round. They’re still trying to find a spot for me & our team. Currently reporting to a “leader” who is at best unhelpful & at worst goes out of his way to kick people when they’re down, publicly. Should I go to the VP (who doesn’t know me at all) to ask to be surplused? My temp supervisor will highlight the worst option instead of being sympathetic or helpful. Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.

It's difficult to tell when the next large surplus event will happen, We've heard rumblings that something will happen around the next 30-60 days. Keep in mind that there seems to be defined strategy as to who is being selected for surplus during the June-July lay-offs I was taken 100% by surprise when it happened to my team, 4 people were let go and 2 of those held top 10 rankings for YTD sales performance across the entire organization -the common denominator was that 3 of the 4 were the oldest and most tenured members of the team. The best thing you can do is max out your 401K as much as possible, and figure out a way to balance your PTO -as you'll be paid for any earned unused PTO, keep up to date on your health, medical, dental, and vision, and manage all the reimbursement and award account credits money you can in order to squeeze every dollar from T that you can. Also network internally and externally to help position yourself if you are surplussed, most of the people that I know who've been laid-off and found work quickly did so through networking, contacts and referrals rather than head-hunters, or resume blasts. The surplus model is to serve you notice with 12-14 or so days left in the month with a surplussed employee's last day on payroll being the first of that next month where you'll keep all of your insurances until the end of that month, then go on COBRA or Medicare if you have no other options. Any severance less about 30% in Fed, SS, Medicare taxes will be paid out around the closest pay-cycle date 45 days from when you sign your letter.

Bumped from @a9+1kzycbrxv.

Hearing rumblings that while there maybe the usual EISP this year it may not be like some say.Its sounding more and more like it’s not going to be across the board for anyone everyone to take.Its sounding more like a limited one for associates.One reason seems to be some departments groups are so small already!!Another reason is they just have little interest in giving extra money away when they know most are on the short list already in years left.Some of it is also sounding like is union wise for good reason want to the company to declare too many surplus groups because there is not a lot of faith they will get as many takers with gatt rates and medical cost up leaving the door for forced adjustment and layoffs.

Management employee. I declined the move to Charlotte. Found a new job but need the ATT severance. The original letter states my end date is up to the discretion of my leadership. My boss is new and his boss as well. Been waiting on answers since May. Anyone have a suggestion for how I can self volunteer for surplus ? ..is that even the correct terminology?

I asked my leadership why are we letting go the employees that do the job we need more of and hiring new no nothing overseas pests instead ?
The response was “we are going to surplus another 25000.of them”

My thoughts to this won’t pass the webmaster rules here.
Where will they find another 25000 core needed employee to surplus?

We instead surplus CO and outside workforces to be replaced with made up titles that just send us emails of no value. Nonsense over and over.

Fortunately I was surplused on 7/1 after 28 years at Att. I’ve seen this company go from, a great place to work to a Stanky hole.

Anyways, when should I expect my last paycheck or severance payment. I haven’t seen anything so far. Knowing the inefficiencies at AT&T, I’m worried that this may take multiple calls to HR one stop. Only to find out that nothing has been done.

I've heard more surplus is coming in September, and I am hoping I'm on that list! I asked to be on the July surplus and was told my department wasn't impacted so I could not be included. Any chance I will be on it in September? Specifically looking for impacted VP/SVP teams under Legg.

25 union members who are collection reps just got the vtp (voluntary termination pay) to leave the company. This is up to 104 weeks pay depending on seniority. This is only the beginning. It is expected that more will be surplussed until all union workers in Leg T are gone. Luckily for them however, they get a generous package to move on, thanks to the union negotiated contract. The payout, including money and medical, dental and vision benefits is much better than the severance pay that low level managers get. Too bad for them. Sooner or later, we'll all be laid off.

I have been with the company since some time where I qualified for pension. Naturally T just contributed bare minimum to it since the last 10 years. I was also a high performer through out and naturally salary went up. Now with all this surplus stuff I got a target on my back for not being in hub, working hard and delivering here. Should I have just slacked and did the bare minimum? I never understood why I am being surplussed except not being in hub

Is it true only people above age 50 are surplussed in Dallas after relocating? I heard many people who moved got surplussed after their move. Was there any reason given for surplus or just told your position is eliminated?

These RTO, relocation, and surpluses this year have turned out to be nothingburgers in the grand scheme of things. Nothing nearly as impactful as originally advertised. Just be in the right location and right time and you are good. Now on to the next challenges.

Anyone got any info on the employee survey or when it may come out? I want to see if they are brave enough to send it while the tons of folks they just surplussed are still on payroll or if they will bi--h out and send it after (i.e September or October before the next round of layoffs hit)

Heard major surplus's in craft elimination of job titles, consolidation of job titles, 2nd & 3rd level managers cut out

The people that sit behind me were told to be prepared for an October notification. The impacted headcount would mirror the June surplus. No way to verify the accuracy of this report. My manager said she hasn't heard any speculation coming down. Anyone heard anything specific?

Just curious can you apply to AT&T after being surplussed? Or are the doors likely closed forever from this company. I feel like out off all of the candidates out there you would be best positioned to re-enter AT&T given how much specialized telecommunications knowledge you would have about fiber and wireless.

So what exactly is going on big giant Eisp for all then for some.Then no Eisp everyone does everyone’s job.Now it’s entire groups titles get surpluses so they can eliminate your title and if you don’t go you become a universal tech.Sorry but they purposely wrote the contract in languages no one would understand with fine printer can’t see possibly invisible!!And I vote No every time to extensions for this reason you can’t tell who sold you out .One giant secret as always the Union can at any time spill some beans but nope fk this place .This prison sentences I committed myself to is almost over

Goofball from our team was surplussed early in 2025. He's been calling daily this past week asking us if we can reach out to specific support teams for trouble he keeps having with his services.

If you think you may be surplussed

DISCONTINUE ALL OF YOUR AT&T PRODUCTS!!

Who gives money to the company that fired them?

Our L3 shared the 2 part guidance he was given in May for making a surplus recommendation. This was delivered to us as tough-love-don't-be-this-guy kind of advice.

1. Out of compliance on anything.
   or
2. Weakest link on a team for 2 consecutive Qtrs.

You will volunteer through your actions. I will no longer choose who leaves.

When is my last day off payroll?

Both sides argued vehemently that the accidental lockout was (or was not) a coincidence with the surplus list from last week.

Now that the surplus has happened, we should know. Was anyone here who WAS locked out NOT surplused?

I moved across the country from California to Dallas end of last year as part of the FTW effort to keep my job. I was then locked out of my account before Memorial Day, and last week received notice that I am being surplussed.

I’m wondering if as a part of any of these facts I have any legal ground to stand on against the company. Is anyone else in the same boat or have had a similar experience? This feels like totally unfair and targeted treatment.