#careerpathing

I'm an NCG who just started at the Training Institute (TI).

What's the likelihood that I'll be a manager or supervisor within six months?

managers asking me about my career path ? during layoffs .? is this nuts 🥜 or what

More specific questions here

What percent of people have senior leader objective and what percent have executive leader?

Given number of available positions, how many will make it their CO? Will senior leader CO people eventually end up being executive leader? What other insights should one think about?

Can the discipline managers, VPs or council people comment?

I find the discussion of IDP discouraging because the promises made never happen. The business need always wins and only hipos have the opportunity to try different jobs. I am stuck in a role because no one else knows how to do it. It isn’t a role that I enjoy or is rewarded. Critical role that they won’t let me leave and then they consistently rank me low.

I’m deeply concerned and disheartened as I look across the current landscape at Crown. My manager and director have each remained in their roles for more than 20 years, and I understand my immediate manager has been in the same position for over 25 years. From where many of us stand, there appears to be little to no opportunity for advancement or promotion. It is discouraging to see such long-standing stagnation while many of us continue to work hard with no clear path for growth or progression. I can’t help but wonder whether others share this same concern about what feels like a serious organizational issue.

is there more details about it on France? it seems it include voluntary leave package too.

Can someone say more about impact of performance required for advancement from CL 27-28 or CL 28-29, etc ? E.g.
OWD - 3yrs
O - 5yrs
E - 7yrs
VG - 10yrs
G - 15yrs
NI - 20yrs
NSI - ♾️

What are the new career objectives and how do they map to the old ultimate potential? For example POT38+ is now a Career Objective of Senior Executive/Corporate leader

I see many b5s having the same exact responsibilities as b4s. I’ve heard you don’t even get that big of a salary bump moving up to b4, if any. This is unlike any company I’ve ever heard of. It seems it’s either you’re a band 3 or a peasant. What is going on?

Ok, time to get real.

What career objective really matters? Is it only Senior Leader and Corp Leader? How can you tell who is on what path? Any milestones or roles vs age that people would look for? Any examples?

Does Executive Leader matter anymore? Is Career Objective of Chief and Sr Principal still around? Is it worth anything?

What CLs are each of these?

Recently several exec's have explained the importance of being well rounded in many aspects of the company. To do so they mentioned how they would make as many lateral moves in order to learn holistically. Do these same leaders support us if we have the same desire. Will management support us if we have the same desire? How to be well rounded the execs?

If your only career path here is the management track and they are removing management layers to flatten the organization...so how exactly are people going to get promoted then? They aren't doing any kind of career growth track for SMEs. You might get to a senior level as an SME and that's it.

They push us on career development, offer resume writing and behavioral interview guidance. Push us to be the best in our position BUT there's no place in the company we can go. No jobs posted for us to even apply to. Mobility? This company offers little to none. Do better, work harder, move nowhere and the yearly compensation is cr-p.

Two more days and I have not had the best luck scoring interviews. What are some suggestions other than LinkedIn to search for jobs?

Is it worth applying for other roles? Ive been here just a tad over a year and my supervisor said theyre not hiring for the rest of this year, but she didn’t answer when i asked about applying to other roles internally

Is there still CL potential? What’s the connection with Career Orientation?

I’m now 43 and still @ CL28…no promotion last 5yrs. Any chance I can make Exec? Is it worth the effort? If i get E/O next 10yrs, can i make it to Exec?

Any other advice besides work hard and build a network to advance in this Company?

Is it smart to accept it?

Complain and stay miserable. Grind and get nothing. Build skills and leave. Choose wisely.

I've had years of promises, and zero results. I'm tired of all the lies and watching incompetent people get ahead.

I heard some of my colleagues have been getting OWD and heading to NC for training. What do they actually do there? And how hard is it to get OWD?

48 years, 13 YEE, probability 10%

And disillusioned with Fidelity.
Is it my imagination that career moves lateral up or sideways don’t exist?
I feel like I’m spinning my wheels making no progress.
Mind you it’s a good job decent enough pay clearly a nice benefits offering but I’m going nowhere.
I’ve made gains in my skills that show initiative and intellect.
Nothing seems to help me grow or advance in any way, shape or manner.
I feel like maybe it’s time to cut hair and look externally.
What is it they are looking for? I mean I hate to say it but it sure seems like young Asian women rule is it just I’m the wrong gender and ethnicity/race?
Could HR be this shallow?
I’m not speaking sarcastically I happen to be very intelligent, extremely professional and polite and nothing changes regarding my career here.

Does anyone know how hard it is to get a transfer to another job location? I want to go from Westlake to Jersey City. Thanks!

I've seen great employees kept in place because their managers didn't want to lose them. They make their department looks good, manager looks good, but they end up stuck because their manager sabotages their advancement for their own gain. If you've been stuck in the same position for a while and don't know why, this might be it.

Will you immediately seek employment, go back to school, take a break, etc. What are your plans?
God Bless Us All.

March 2027 for me, so I'm a bit envious of those who got earlier dates, but I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth!

Any one want to share about internally moving to a lateral position or higher? How is the process to tell the current manager that you want to move elsewhere ?

Or, to rephrase that, can you ask to be considered for a different role instead of taking the severance? And if nothing is available, then accept the severance instead?

Most people quit too late.

Look out for these 12 signs:

1. Dread Every Morning
   ↳This isn't a bad week, it's a pattern that won't shift
   ↳Ex: Your stomach drops every Sunday night before Monday

2. Growth Has Stopped
   ↳You've learned everything this role can teach you
   ↳Ex: You could do your job in your sleep and haven't been challenged in months

3. Values Don't Match
   ↳The company rewards things you don't believe in
   ↳Ex: Leadership praises long hours over real results

4. No Real Feedback
   ↳Your manager never talks about your future, only your tasks
   ↳Ex: Your last three reviews said "keep doing what you're doing"

5. Constant Small Lies
   ↳You're asked to bend the truth in ways that add up
   ↳Ex: You're told to tell clients a project is "on track" when it's not

6. Health Keeps Slipping
   ↳Your body is sending signals your calendar ignores
   ↳Ex: You've had three headaches this week you didn't have last year

7. Talent Keeps Leaving
   ↳Good people quitting is a signal, not a coincidence
   ↳Ex: Three teammates left in six months and no one asked why

8. Raises Feel Impossible
   ↳You've asked clearly and gotten vague answers twice
   ↳Ex: "Let's revisit this next quarter" - for the second year in a row

9. Passion Feels Gone
   ↳You used to care, now you just show up
   ↳Ex: You stopped raising ideas in meetings months ago

10. Trust Is Broken
    ↳Something happened that changed how you see leadership
    ↳Ex: A promise about your role or pay was quietly broken

11. Skills Are Stale
    ↳The market is moving and your role isn't keeping up
    ↳Ex: You haven't learned a new tool or skill in over a year

12. Gut Says Go
    ↳You already know, you're just waiting for permission
    ↳Ex: You catch yourself checking job boards every day at lunch

Staying too long doesn't just cost you time.
It costs you growth.

https://www.leadershipgs.com/newsletter

Anyone have experience negotiating your exit from a HQ role? Not getting laid off. Leaving on your own terms when you and your leader agree the work has changed enough to not fit. Open roles are scarce for my intended trajectory.

The money used to make the stress worth it but weak raises ki-led that advantage years ago. Now there's no path up, no relief in sight, and I'm starting to feel like an id--t for still being here.

Has anyone moved internally recently? Has anyone had luck or grass greener doing this?

Hey, guys wondering which orgs should I consider transferring too. I want know which STS are green or red flags. I’m currently an associate engineer with continued meet standards in CET,RWT and I keep getting things blocked due to budget related stuff. I’m tired of my org not evaluating me fairly so I’ll be applying around again.

What is career path/title as IT professional there?
From engineer associate to principal engineer.
What's in between
Thanks

Has anyone been promoted in their current role without needing to switch jobs or apply for a higher title job posting

Mass layoffs continue to impact Silicon Valley tech workers. Artificial intelligence is driving these job cuts and reshaping the industry. Many displaced employees struggle to find new roles despite extensive experience. Companies are now highly selective, often demanding specific AI skills. Workers are adapting by upskilling, networking, or exploring new career paths.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2026-05-19/ai-layoffs-jobless-tech-workers-silicon-valley

Sorry to everyone who was affected by the recent cuts.
Quick question ,how long were u given to find another role within Fidelity?

Have been told nobody can move b/c hiring freeze and no backfills but have not asked for move directly either.