#vsp

I think some people are missing the point of other posts regarding if one should be worried about their job or not. YES alot of people know we weren’t eligible for the VSP including myself, we get that, we know…….but that doesn’t mean we aren’t worried about our jobs either! Those that have a separation date know at some point their job ends, but what about the ones that dont have that? I see lots of people saying what their department head or PL tell them, seems like you all have way more information than those who weren’t eligible for VSP. If we’re NOT eligible for the vsp does that mean we’re safe? With a lot of us having less than 2 years what are the odds we’d get cut? Ive heard nothing regarding the call center……nearly everyone on ny team has been here over 2 years……so if they all get cut by accepting the VSP or Involuntary layoffs…..what would that mean for me or my other coworkers?

I have been out on maternity leave so have definitely not been kept in the loop of what is going on. I am really worried and nervous if my job is in jeopardy and that I’m going to be blindsided. I wasn’t eligible for a VSP (been working for less than a year) but I still feel like some line of communication should have been directed at me. Am I wrong in thinking that?

My PL informed us today that two members of our team (PDM in a Medicare market covering two states) took the VSP. Don't know who yet, but I'd imagine that info is coming soon. I'd say we have a fairly small team; eleven, counting me and our PL. What do you all think are the chances of more people getting axed when the layoffs begin? Prior to the last "reorganization," the team was only one state with six people counting me/PL, but we merged with another at that time. From what I've read here, there are some big ops-related changes re: Medicare coming, but I've not heard anything official yet.

“Carry on, work hard, and keep our numbers strong!” I guess that’s really all we can do right now but how do they expect us to focus? We have various team members with different separation dates. Leadership has said they’re sharing information as they receive it, but honestly, there hasn’t been much to share...

We still haven’t heard whether the rumored layoffs are moving forward or which departments or roles might be affected first. Like many other teams, our department depends heavily on work coming from the clinical teams, and it’s hard to know how many of those employees accepted the VSP. Until we have more clarity, I guess we just plug along?

If your separation date is in 2027 or 2028, you weren't part of the RIF. The round about Sept date is for those whose job is being cut. 

If your position wasn't in jeopardy, what makes you think you qualify for a Sept separation date? The answer is you don't. If your job was safe, you had two chances to change your mind about the VSP. You said "Nah, I'm good." Now you're all over the internet acting like something happened to you. It's so unfair that your job isn't being cut. GTFOH your VSP should be denied! 

If you're that unhappy, stop crying online, and resign. You tried to play the system, that's on you, nobody else. Te chingaste pendejo! 

P. S. This will be difficult for the UNGRATEFUL B-MS  to understand. You're not losing your job, the VSP doesn't apply the same everyone. Read this again, THE VSP OPP ya you know me DOESN'T APPLY THE SAME TO EVERYONE. 

Do you understand? I hope so,  you're a selfish ingrate comparing yourself to someone that's losing their job. Get your lazy a-s to work! 

As a result of all this bs and the way its been handled. I truely feel those of us left standing will be quite quitters as many of our teams were already understaffed and drowning in back logged work with NO expectations of receiving additional support only bs promises of relief never to come. I regret not taking the VSP option at least I could have started to heal from the decades of mental trauma this company has put me and others through.

She said, "the fact that four out of five of the folks who are going to move on from Centene were part of the VSP". If 61,000 were offered the VSP, and 4 out of 5 are taking it, then Centene is losing approximately 48,000 of its workforce! How is that going to help the members who have put their trust in this company? And if members now cannot speak with a real person and have to deal with the frustration of off-shore call-centers and automated bots, the future looks even worse for our most vulnerable members.

I encourage you all to watch the latest episode. While they didn’t state official reduction numbers, Sarah did allude that 4/5 people laid off will be from the VSP.

For an example, if the reduction goal is 5000 individuals then approx 1000 individuals will be laid off involuntarily.

Of course it is still vague information, but hopefully it helps some of you who are worried about an equally wide-spread involuntary RIF.

How many of you wanted to punch your screen hearing these tone deaf "leaders" talk about the direction of the company and VSP.

For those of us who received a later than expected VSP approval, and those that received an even much later than expected approval, all the way THROUGH 2028 which is absurd! My heart breaks for you all! Some are going to feel like they are being held captive, (PL we beg you to give us some grace and do not set ANYONE up). Some will go ahead and leave which I totally can understand. Prayers for everyone and to those that try to stick it out we stand with you. Just try to take it one day at a time. Do the best you can. Get mental health assistance offered through SpringHealth it is free, just try to turn a new leaf, remember things happen for a reason, be strong and get the $ that you so much deserve. Brush up your resume. I think most of us were getting used to the idea of being able to move on with our life and it definitely caught us off guard causing more anxiety. Time will go by fast! Counting down! Stay Strong and may Peace be with you all!

What will happen to the contract in OK? This seems like a contract violation if key roles are leaving due to the VSP.

So i just called the VSP line and inquired about my designated separation date of March 19,2027, whether that’s going to change. The lady I spoke to says that’s unlikely to change.
Thoughts?

I feel like we could argue that layoffs were gonna happen anyway- but anyone know?

I know the hot topics are the VSP and layoffs, but does anyone know what the restructuring will look like.

I wasn’t eligible for VSP. If RIF’d, what can I expect? There’s nothing in policy any longer surrounding severance. Will I even get a couple weeks work of pay for just under 2y of service? Anyone have historical knowledge?

Is anyone else dealing with tone deaf leadership? Everyone has an opinion, but trying to gaslight people into thinking this is good for all is absolute bullsh-t. Taking the VSP isn't best for everyone. Even those of us dealing with burn out who feel ready to move on can’t just jump ship if our financial footing is unstable. Some of these so called leaders need to stop telling us how to feel about our livelihoods. I guess it's easy for someone pulling in mid to high six figures to believe that taking the VSP is an easy win.

With all the VSP's approved and separation dates staggered from early September 2026 to end of 2027, we will still possibly have involuntary layoffs occur in mid August 2026 to help the company save some money. Even though we can't be transparent enough to tell you for sure, please keep work hard and diligently to ensure our providers and members are extremely satisfied.

Im confused…..if they have what seems to be a lot of people taking the vsp……why would they leave us hanging until mid August?? There’s tons of people who volunteered to take the vsp…..but apparently theres still a layoff threat? Shouldnt the people who took the vsp be the first to go and that be enough since they basically volunteered ?

With nearly everybody approved for VSP, is there still a need for additional layoffs?

I'm a director who got approved with an exit date of December 2026. However, I was expecting to leave 9/4/26. We have a State audit in November so I understand why they extended my date. Any director or VP level tried or going to ask for an earlier exit date ? I am actively interviewing for my next role so I would love to accept the new role and get my severance. With all the company layoffs it's going to be harder to find a new role in December.

Has anyone noticed the vast amount of posts related to how this VSP announcement has, or will affect our own mental health and the long -term costs associated with this???

Does anyone who works in claims on ABS who took the VSP get a last day beyond May of next year??

Can anyone clear up how the decision was made regarding who on the team got earlier release dates such as 9/4 and others got later dates? Most of my team that applied got the early date and our PL shared they still are unaware of who applied. It seems odd corporate or a vendor would decide this.

Should we assume those who were NOT eligible for the vsp are safe?? Seems like the only ones affected are the ones with vsp offers?? I also assume that if we’re not laid off we will be dealing with the fault out. But im PCC so idk how IT, or any corporate roles would impact me

I’ve seen a few people say they saw dates of 8/12-8/14 posted on the VSP faq page. I wasn’t eligible for VSP. My leadership said that they’re not aware of any dates nor details. Can someone confirm the VSP faq stating this or paste the Q and A?

Honest question just thinking out loud and venting! I know it’s d-mb and prob a big oh waste of time thinking this but since we the ones who took the VSP thinking our separation date would be Sept 2026 and now some of us are not getting that date is this or can it be classified as a breech? Just wondering since now we cannot even change our minds and withdraw our VSP after the fact of our separation date now being into 2027! I wish now at this point we could withdraw our VSP!

I never received my email yesterday so called the VSP hotline number today. They kept me on hold for 30 minutes only to tell me they don't see any information on whether my VSP request is approved or denied. They said they will open a case and someone will reach out to me within 5 business days. Has this happened to anyone else?

Just had a department meeting, they are offshoring Medicare bus ops. made it sound like enough people took the VSP to offset lay offs but also said they didn’t know and it was above them. They claimed the VSP was a separate initiative from this and the “timing aligned” not sure how it aligned when this news could have made people choose the VSP. Not sure why they would wait to announce this after the VSP deadline. 13% of bus ops took the VSP they confirmed. Stated they were going to move people into new positions within the next few weeks which ironically aligns with the RIF date. Good luck everyone and congrats to those who accepted the VSP and it worked out.

Folks just look at how they have handled everything since June. The rhetoric they use, the moving of timelines, misleading information and that's not counting all the other shenanigans this company has pulled over last 3 to 5 yrs. They dont like us and it's obvious they wanted to see who was disgruntled here and to make themselves look better with investors. They have no intention of paying out all these VSP and understood that by doing this ppl would quit or be so mentally gone thst they start to struggle.

It’s a new day and I still don’t feel any better about a late 2027 separation date. I feel I have made a HUGE mistake taking the VSP and it’s definitely time to move on.

Should we even listen in to this? With everything that has been changed and twisted the last six weeks I doubt they’ll paint a true picture of what’s happening. I find it interesting the forecast was so off but yet this go around they know exactly how many of us to offer VSP and ISP. I have no faith in this leadership any longer.

How can they justify layoffs when they given VSP end dates in2028

Im seeing lots of people from more higher up roles ( review nurse, IT, corporate analyst etc) say they got vsp offers and dates and tons of information from their dept heads it seems like about whats going on with whos leaving and who’s affected…….but has anyone heard anything regarding the call center? Are they making involuntary cuts regardless of vsp? Some people have been here 5 years and some under a year! I dont wanna start looking for another job because its so hard to find one, but if my department isnt being affected i shouldn’t be too worried then right?

Anyone in this area apply? I’ve been told numerous times it’s likely a protected area becuase of contractual obligations but with the scrutiny on these areas lately I also wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a bunch of layoffs and rehiring or PIPs!

My VSP was accepted with a separation date of 12/11/2026. While that does give me more time to look for other employment, I feel it also gives my PL time to find a reason to fire me. Seems like the ones who got the 9/4 would have been laid off involuntary anyways and those of us with a further date may have been safe, but now we run the risk of retaliation because management knows when we are leaving.

Now that we're approved we all need to watch out because they'll be looking for any reason to performance people out. Those that are staying behind, be sure to watch your back. Spoke to two different people leaders today and they confirmed layoffs are coming.

Yeah the more I think about it this was pretty shady what they did to us. Led to believe 9/1/26 (this is the date on the initial offer package) then to find out up to 2028 for some people's approval date. That's absurd! The VSP information we initially received could have said "assumption of September 1 2026 with the possibility of future dates being extended to 11/2026, 12/2016, 3/2027, 5/2027, 7/2027, 8/2027, through 2028 blah blah blah (y'all get my drift)
Even if it just simply said " with assumption of approval date into 2028"
I have no respect for Centene anymore.

Anyone have any idea if theyre laying people off from the call center?? I know of at least 2 people in claims ( not analyst or anything) people who take the calls from the providers who got vsp offers…..but what about the ones who worked here only a year like myself? I see lots of people post all over about what their managers say or theyre in IT or a case manager with all of this different information, im just hoping to get some answers to help some friends and myself

Was really hoping VSP was going to at least leave the ones staying behind to work with other people who didn't hate their jobs. I hope the ppl in my department all got the September date, December at the latest.

Angrier than usual people is not what I was looking forward to.

I have no proof, but I have a feeling those who were approved to leave on 9/4 were already going to get cut.

I have seen many posts with people upset (understandably so), that their separation dates are in 2027. my guess is those in the later groups have positions that were not going to get cut. they have been deemed essential. I do not believe these people will be a part of a future layoff.

it does look like those in certain functions were given later dates?