#managedout

They laid off an amazing guy loved by all of us to replace him with somebody at least a decade younger with no people skills. Half my team is now planning to quit as soon as we can, and the other half is not far from making the same decision. They ruined our team, and for what?

We've all gotten a ton of training to complete by the end of the year. Now I know how to spend the recharge period.

At least there's time to do it.

But one thing I noticed when doing the Data Privacy training (or whatever it's called; has to do with data stewardship), nearly all the scenarios they present show the main character as being pressured by management to cut corners. And the lowly person at the bottom has to push back and follow the right protocol and procedures.

So, that is putting quite the onus on the report to push back against managers (unrealistic). And aren't managers supposed to be holding the line against this kind of behavior? It's very odd.

People here have the worst TDS...

Tan Derangement Syndrome

Another poster mentioned, in another thread, that Comcast NBCU may try to reduce headcount through the annual performance review process.

I’m concerned this is happening to me. Last year, I got a glowing year-end review from my manager but my mid-year review was mediocre.

Has anyone gone through this? Is there anything I can do to protect myself? Would I be eligible for severance, if I were managed out? What would come next (a PIP)?

I would have never joined this company, if I knew this is how they treated employees. I’ve never received a bad review in my professional career and am overqualified for my role (my boss is insecure). I made the mistake of taking this job over another offer.

I'm starting to think my manager might be trying to push me out without actually firing me. I've had a good record here, but lately I'm being excluded from discussions I need to be part of and getting criticism I never used to hear. On top of that, I'm being handed last minute work with deadlines that seem impossible. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the change in treatment is hard to ignore.

This may come in handy for those who suddenly come across this type of manipulation from a toxic manager, and how to recognize it happening to them: if you out of nowhere start getting feedback that you aren't using the best time management or aren't prioritizing your time well (even if you aren't missing deadlines); that should be your cue that they either want to throw more onto your plate with no compensation or level change OR that you are on your way to being managed out. If your past reviews were stellar or above average - and you didn't see this coming - also take that as a warning that they want you out. And they will use several means to accomplish that.

According to Google AI: Gaslighting employees into believing they are bad at time management is a manipulative tactic where an organization or manager shifts the blame for systemic dysfunction, unclear strategies, or unmanageable workloads onto the individual's personal skills. Instead of addressing poor planning, understaffing, or shifting priorities (which are constant here at TGT), leaders push mandatory time management workshops or imply the employee just needs to "work smarter" (to deflect accountability from the huge mess we are at the leadership level). We all know about the goalposts being moved constantly - needing for TMs to have to work weekends to meet the deadlines. Don't let them gaslight you into thinking you su-k at your job. It's them, not you. Management and leaders always avoid admitting a lack of coherent business strategy or resource allocation by making you feel inadequate.

It definitely does a number on your psyche; and you start developing imposter syndrome. Don't give in. Start looking for a new job. The culture has changed significantly at the Bullseye; and it make take years to repair. Hope this PSA is helpful to anyone currently there.

BTW, HR is not there to help you with this. They are not your friend. Once you start complaining about workload (whether to your boss or through those "anonymous" surveys), they will see to it that you are no longer there.

Why bother buying studios if you're only going to end up closing them in the end??? BioWare made some of the best games of all time. And now EA is ki-ling it. I can guarantee you one thing, I'm done giving a single $ to this company.

They aren’t even trying to hide their plans anymore. It is common knowledge that once you hit late 40’s you are toast. Good luck becoming a retiree.

USAA doesn't really lay off people as much anymore. They just make your life miserable until you leave quietly. Pay attention for a while and you'll see I'm right.

As thankful as I am to be employed, the nightmare here never ends. It isn’t the work itself that is stressful, it’s the culture. There’s too little focus on competence and too much focus on sycophancy. Some senior “leaders” know nothing, don’t listen and make baseless, bullsh-t decisions (ahem Lise). I don’t know how people with zero technical acumen can make technical decisions. Furthermore, they are too bull-headed and busy kissing ELT a** to even take practical, technical advice. Additionally, they are trying to manage people out; even employees who have been high-performing are getting slammed across the board, pretty much out of nowhere. If ever there was a toxic environment, this is it!

Was under AB’s org (EACX) and I got evaluated as one of top performers for years. I took on extra responsibilities when other folks left and this is how I got treated this year.

Humana should take a close look at the middle level leaders in ServiceFund.

They really need a changeover. I bet you will see that they have had multiple HR4U complaints by their staff.

I imagine firing them will even help with Humana’s public relations image.

Anyone else reached that magic stage of corporate where no one knows what you do including you? Responsibilities evaporating. is this job security , organizational incompetence or a layoff load screen

I have been with the company for over a decade and until this year every single review has been meets or above. This year I got smacked with a below meets on my mid-year check in. Can they use this to terminate me without severance? I am fine with getting laid off but I want my package.

Do you or your team have to install WorkIQ? Company is using WorkIQ to get rid of employee making silly excuses.

Multi was to let most go, They don't have to do a big layoff it's designed to make you fail. Most in the dept are on a plan. Shame Shame on Wayfair.

meta aint in no zombie era…its in panic mode. The times says meta is turning into Aol or yahoo, some old big internet comapny that used to be on top and now nobody cares. i beleive they kinda right, but they missing the real thing. meta dont know what it is no more. first zuck changed the whole name for metaverse and burned like $80b on reality labs. they told everybody vr meetings and cartoon avatars was the future, but nobody wanted it. horizon worlds had tiny numbers, avatars had no legs, and the whole thing looked d-mb. then ai got hot and meta definately jumped on that too, like they just chase whatever is shiny.

now they getting sued by publishers and an author for allegedly using pirated books to train ai. lawsuit says they knew the data was pirated and used it anyway. it also says zuck ki-led licensing talks cause if they pay to recieve even one book then it hurts their fair use story. so this aint seperate problems. its all one mess, wich is a buisness with no plan, just shortcuts and money burning. then u got reports of meta watching employee keystrokes and mouse movement to train ai agents that might replace them later. maybe that occured cause leadership is scared. no suprise regular workers get layoffs, stack ranking, rto pressure, bad morale, and fear while the top keeps funding zucks next fantasy.

I'm putting this out there for my former coworkers who might be in denial like I was. You might be getting managed out if your work is suddenly being micromanaged. If you're getting impossible deadlines. If you're being left out of meetings you used to attend. If your responsibilities are shrinking. If your wins are being ignored. If your requests for time off or training are being denied. If you're getting in trouble for things others do daily. I saw all of these before I was let go, I just didn't want to believe it.

One of my teammates is on one right now, and he knows he’s as good as gone, with nothing to show for it. At least with a layoff, you get severance.

Once you're on it, you already know how it ends. I really hope no one is fooling themselves into thinking they can fight it.

I've had multiple coaching memos doesn't take a genius that they want me gone lol.
How long do I have until a formal PIP?

Doing CAPs to manage people out and avoid paying severance has been happening a lot for at least a couple of years.

We are hearing about it more because it works and they are doing it more. The company saves money by pushing out long-term, expensive employees, especially those seen as too vocal, ethical, or outside the in-crowd.

Expect more of this. Most people do not have the money, time, or stability to fight it legally, and many assume it cannot happen to them until it does.

So mismanagement loses the Marriott account and immediately out come the travel cuts! I don't think we will T&E our way out of this poorly run company! Does stopping manager travel and meetings, training events, back filling roles send the right message? How about stripping Senior Leaders bonuses? Those bloated million dollars payouts for poor performance? And if you say we will lose them so be it there has not been a strategic decision made in over 5 years! Funny how we blow smoke up everyone's butts on Town Halls but behind the scenes we do this cr-p!

It is about time for regime change.
18 months and all he does is fire people?
And not one positive thing came out in 18 months that he has been here
preaching positivity.

Do anybody else have a manager who pawn you off to your colleagues? As a new hire this manager responds with go ask so and so. I’m not trying to bother others who have are busy. His employees say he doesn’t have answers. That’s why he directs them to them.

Some roles seem to get harder by design until the person eventually gives up. I've been noticing this more and more, and recently on my own skin as well. Is this the new money-saving strategy?

I hope all the management that laid people off all these years finally get laidoff
Specially my old worthless boss that just took up space.

Don't expect a turnaround. There's no real intent to bring back the old glory, not even to improve from where we are now. They'll cut until there's nothing left. We've been stagnating, and I've yet to see even a hint of vision behind any of the recent layoffs or restructuring.

None of them understood the team's actual strengths and weaknesses. All of them resisted using people in the roles that made sense. And every single one was a passive-aggressive micromanager, always interrupting, never actually contributing. At this point I'm convinced it's not them. It's the whole damn place.

Whatever happens now, I'm at peace with it. I just don't care. My manager has been pushing me out for a year. Excluding me, giving my opportunities to others, taking credit for my ideas. I used to get upset, but now I'm just done. I've given too much to EJ to keep fighting.

Had a solid four years going until leadership changed and suddenly I was out. Before tech I was a director at a global company. Now at mid 40s with twenty years experience and an MBA, I can't get anyone to call back. Two months and not even a single interview. I know that doesn't sound long but it stings differently when you've worked this hard your whole life only to be dismissed.

Cloud Service team should be fired. What a terrible account system they designed or managed…. Why is so complicated… And people in the team are rude, lazy and ignorant

That is exactly what it feels like when dealing with the managers. Most of them tend to be petty, obnoxious and bullies. As if their testosterone levels have peaked towards a downward spiral.

I’ve seen people get slowly starved of chances until they leave on their own with no raises, no projects, and no recognition. It starts to feel like getting pushed out without the paperwork. Makes me wonder if this quiet push out is happening more often than real layoffs these days.

This micromanager is harassing our team by asking passive aggressive questions regarding which day in the week are we going to be in the office. Funny thing is the he won’t even talk to us in the office much and stays on his useless calls.

Every member of our team has different day preferences and one can’t predict set schedule.

Company policy says that we can pick any day of our choice.

I am on wits end.. as if everything else going on is not enough .: we have this person sniffing on our necks

Where can I report this ?

With a pip. What a horrible company

Currently in the process of getting managed out. I was told that there are 150 people that have all been put on performance plans. Meet a certain % of plan by end of Q or be put on an official. I would take any package if offered. Every day is like an episode of a reality show. Some made up loss that needs to be made up for. High stress, no money.

Been here less than a year and now I have almost nothing to do. Boss doesnt care when I ask for more work. Is this how they phase people out before letting them go?

Being laid off on the spot with an email or in a meeting with management and HR is bad enough already.

But was anyone here "managed out" which either led to you resigning or a termination of your contract? I believe the official term for this is constructive dismissal/discharge.