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getting thrown off the sinking titanic

I used to secretly come to this website to get the tea on the company. Who knew I'd be the one giving it this time

Recent graduates, do NOT become a contractor for this place UNLESS you know for sure that you're getting a full time position within 5 months-1 year. I was a recent college graduate when I got the offer to work here but as a contractor. I was told that through hard work and due time, if they liked me, that I'd get a full time position.... that was 3 years, multiple layoffs, 1 managerial and 1 CEO change later when now, they've cut my contract after getting a $4 raise this year as well as new hires to help our team become more efficient. I must've joined at a sc--wed up time, how unlucky am i. I worked 35-40 hr weeks, was a positive employee and got along with all my co-workers, cafe staff, and people outside of my department. I was good at my job and even had plans to excel and show my skills to open up more opportunities and possibilities, you know the thing that my higher up wanted from me at the time. During my time there, I've dealt with so many unnecessary and unhelpful barriers being placed, low morale, empty promises, fatigue on every level, career doubts, being overlooked while being the most overworked, crying tears at my desk because I was in fear of the one thing that ended up happening to me- losing a job I genuinely loved being at. All those things happened at 24-25. Mind you, it was year 3 and people were still confused as to why I'm a contractor, why I don't have access to an employee portal, why I don't get fossil discounts, why I don't get fossil emails, why I don't get opportunities because of my contract....isn't that saying something???

After this, I'll make peace with It and move on through life. This is a stepping stone and I should treat it as such. I'm CERTAIN that other people may leave too, willingly or not depending on the AI progression. Oh and one more thing, don't scurry off out the building after giving some devastating news WITHOUT WARNING AND OUT OF NOWHERE. have some dignity and finish out the rest of the day like I did.


Warren Buffet

People ask me where they should go to work, and I always tell them to go to work for whom they admire the most. It’s crazy to take little in-between jobs just because they look good on your resume. That’s like saving s-x for old age. Do what you love and work for whom you admire the most, and you’ve given yourself the best chance in life you can.


Ask yourself…

Why do I still work here?

Probable answers include, but not limited to:

“I’m close to retirement” (acceptable)
“The job market stinks” (bad answer; it hasn’t always stunk; you had plenty of time to leave when it was booming)
“Would have to accept lower pay” (possibly but su-k it up)


Would I be making a mistake if I left now?

I joined just four months ago but I hate it already. I got lucky and another company just offered me a role that pays a little less but is much closer to what I actually want and hopefully comes with less toxicity. I am grateful for the option, but I am wondering how much it'll be an issue for my resume in the future to leave a job after such a short time.


Is there a point anymore?

A position I was eying opened up and I was going to apply internally but then I stopped and really thought about it. Is there a point of investing any more of my career here or should I just start applying outside? Things have been messed up for a while and as much as I used to like it here, I'm not sure I see a bright future for this place.


No one's coming to save you

I used to wait around for management to fix things, to make things better, to give me a reason to stay. Then I realized that wasn't going to happen and I started looking. And now I have my first offer. You've got to take charge of your own life, because no one up there is going to do it for you.


Looking for guidance

I’m being asked to relocate as part of RTO to a location where my current skillset does not have long-term scope in ATT, so I chose to go to HQ that may offer more internal opportunities and some extended family support.

Now I’m second-guessing the decision. The move is coming up soon, and I’m worried about relocating my family only to face a layoff later because it is not the assigned location as per new presence indicators. What to do?


The stress of being unemployed is real

I've been on both sides of this, and the fear of not having a job is just as bad as the misery of having one you hate. Watching your savings drain and your health coverage get closer to expiring is its own special kind of he-l. You still got a paycheck coming in, don't waste that advantage. Even if you think you're safe, it won't hurt you to start looking, just in case. There's a huge difference between getting to do it while still employed than when you're already without a job.


Leave Global Projects

I left EM a little while ago to move to booming data center industry where they need capital projects people and pay better

Do some research and apply. Why not see?
Base Salary a little lower than EM but more than made up with near term cash and stock

Example. CL27/28 with 15 years experience can get you this
Base: 250k
Annual cash bonus: 20%
Stocks: $800k-$1.2M spread over next 4 years. No ridiculous 3 and 7 year waiting to get couple hundred XOM shares.
Basically $500-600k+ per year
And even know some CL 28/29 folks that are looking and can get closer to $800k all-in.

Or you can stick around and work with disrespectful people like Dan W or Carman M!
Good luck!


CoPilot Summary of ExxonMobil's Performance Improvement Process (PIP)

Why ExxonMobil’s PIP Process Is Controversial

ExxonMobil’s Performance Improvement Plan (PIP) is controversial because it is widely perceived — and in some cases documented — as a performance-based exit mechanism rather than a purely developmental tool.

1. Official stance vs. employee perception
The company publicly says PIPs are meant to help underperforming employees improve and return to full performance Help from HR. However, internal discussions, employee forums, and media reports suggest that many PIPs are effectively “severance offers” for employees in the “Needs Significant Improvement” (NSI) category The Retirement Group+1. This is especially true when Exxon expands the NSI group to reduce headcount without using the word “layoff” Help from HR.

2. Timing and context
PIP-related workforce changes often occur during periods of financial stress or industry downturns, such as after oil price crashes or company losses Help from HR. In those situations, employees interpret PIPs as part of a broader cost-cutting or restructuring effort, not just individual performance issues.

3. Subjectivity and fairness concerns
Employees report that PIPs can be influenced by supervisor bias, peer feedback, and narrative alignment rather than objective performance metrics TheLayoff.com+1. Some describe it as a “tryout” where you must prove yourself quickly, and if you fail, your job is on the line LinkedIn. This creates anxiety and uncertainty, especially when the criteria are not clearly defined in writing LinkedIn.

4. Career impact
Even if you pass a PIP, some former employees say career trajectories can still be negatively affected Reddit. Others leave while on PIP to pursue better opportunities, citing the process as a sign that their role or future at Exxon is uncertain.

5. Pension and benefits considerations
While Exxon offers strong retirement benefits, employees note that pension vesting is long-term (often 40+ months) and 401(k) vesting is shorter (3 years) Reddit. This means the financial security of staying on PIP can be uncertain, adding to the perception that it’s a high-risk period.

In short: The controversy stems from the gap between ExxonMobil’s public description of PIPs as a development tool and the reality for many employees — that they are a performance-based exit route. This perception is reinforced by timing, subjectivity in evaluation, and the career and financial risks involved.


Crown Career Barometer

Here it is…The first week of June and a quick look at the career section of Crowns website shows eight openings…split between half in Houston and the other half in Canonsburg. Nothing in the field…nothing remote. Any chance at a lateral move out of the Midwest area?


Timeline for internal hiring

I’m about 2 months away from my 1-year mark at Citi and starting to think about internal opportunities. Can I apply before I officially hit 1 year, or do I have to wait?

does your manager only find out if you get an offer, or are they notified at some point during the interview process?


All that is Wrong with Centene (and Corporate America in General), in 26 Slides

After 20+ (mostly hellish, but somewhat productive) years at Centene, I had the misfortune of being re-orged under a Sr. VP that had no idea what anyone's background and contributions had been over the decades, so I and some others were shown the door in layoffs a couple months ago. I came across this article today that lays out perfectly how the last 20 years have been for a lot of us:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gen-x-doesn-t-want-to-work-and-their-reasons-actually-make-sense/ss-AA1VYmbT?ocid=msedgntp&pc=W069&cvid=6a1dd379fcb443ba814542eb7b86d0fe&ei=107#image=1

Slides 16 (Corporate Culture Prioritizes Appearance Over Measurable Results) and 19 (Performance Reviews Emphasize Arbitrary Metrics Over Actual Contributions) really hit home, especially this from slide 16 - "Elaborate presentations mattered more than project outcomes. Workers who delivered results efficiently got overlooked while colleagues who mastered workplace theater earned promotions."

I have never seen a company waste so much time and money on worthless slide decks that are forgotten immediately after they are delivered. If you totaled all the wasted manpower in terms of the salaries of the people that had to drop everything they were doing to work on a deck for some muckety-muck that was coming to town or wanted an update on something, I would venture it is in the hundreds of millions of dollars in wasted salaries over the life of the company.

Anyway , time to get back to figuring out how I want to spend the rest of my career. I promised myself it would be doing something that provides meaningful, measurable, tangible results, so going back to Centene is off the table.


Lost direction

I joined this company as a young blood years ago. Worked hard, built successful products aimed to grow and still doing the best I can. However I got busy with life, siloed to a Specific area where I am unable to land another job even after 3 years of search.

Now in my mid life, I am facing relocation to Dallas, which my mind is constantly rejecting. The move would be a very big change for our family with some positives and negatives of spousal job loss and transition for children. I am not sure if anybody faced this scenario but if you did, how did you convince yourself to move and restart life? I am feeling lost with no home settlement and don’t know what to do except to comply.


Verizon’s flagship stores on the chopping

Verizon to close more stores. Even flagship high performance corporate stores are not safe. I have direct knowledge! Keep your head down and jump to another role, plan for severance, plan for indirect takeover and interview opportunities, and/or look for another career. The stores are cooked! No store is safe!


How do you see your career in five years? My Five‑Year Plan? Watching Everyone Else Leave First.

Corporate environments today are not the stable, lifelong paths they once claimed to be. So often we see people changing assignments, leaving the company, being put on PIPs, or facing layoffs. Stop repeating corporate talking points “At ExxonMobil, we hire for careers. ”Instead let employees build adaptable skills and navigate change effectively. This brain washing needs to stop


Is your Manager notified if you apply for another internal job in workday?

I'm considering applying for another internal job but not sure if I will get an interview. I want to ensure I get an interview before letting my boss know that I applied for a job.

Does anyone know if workday notifies your manager as soon as you apply for another job?


A Long-Career Perspective on Navigating Fidelity Through Change

After 36 years at Fidelity, I have learned that every generation of associates eventually faces a moment when the conversation gets heavy.

People start asking whether the company is changing too much. Whether the culture is still the same. Whether the future is secure. Whether leadership understands the pressure people are feeling. Whether the next reorganization, strategy shift, technology wave, or market cycle means something worse is coming.

I understand those concerns. I have lived through enough change to know that uncertainty is real. It affects people, families, teams, confidence, and morale. I would never dismiss that.

But I would also offer this perspective: catastrophizing has never helped anyone build a better career.

Fidelity has never been a static company. It has grown, reorganized, adapted, expanded, corrected, invested, simplified, and reinvented itself many times. That is not a sign of failure. That is one of the reasons Fidelity has endured.

A long career teaches you that companies, like people, go through seasons. There are seasons of growth, seasons of constraint, seasons of reinvention, seasons of discomfort, and seasons when the path forward is not as clear as we would like it to be. The mistake is assuming that a difficult season is the whole story.

It is not.

Fidelity remains a company with tremendous strengths: deep customer trust, a respected brand, scale, financial discipline, a broad business model, talented associates, and a history of finding its way through change. That does not mean every decision will feel perfect. It does not mean every associate will experience change the same way. But it does mean that this is still a place where people can learn, contribute, grow, lead, and build meaningful careers.

To those early in your career: do not let fear become your career strategy. Listen, learn, and be aware of what is happening around you, but do not let anonymous anxiety define your view of the company or your future. Build skills. Build relationships. Ask for feedback. Understand the business. Volunteer for hard problems. Become known as someone who is reliable, curious, adaptable, and focused on outcomes.

A career is not built by waiting for certainty. It is built by becoming valuable in uncertain environments.

To those who have been here a long time: our experience matters, but only if we keep converting it into relevance. We have seen cycles before. We know that the mood of the moment is not always the truth of the future. Our role is not to deny that change is hard. Our role is to help others navigate it with perspective, steadiness, and maturity.

Long-tenured associates have a responsibility to be culture carriers, not nostalgia carriers. We should remember what made Fidelity special, but we should also help shape what Fidelity needs to become next.

That means mentoring newer associates. Sharing context. Reducing noise. Solving problems. Staying open to new tools, new ways of working, and new business realities. It means being honest without being cynical, realistic without being fatalistic, and loyal without being blind.

There is a difference between concern and catastrophizing.

Concern asks: What can I learn? How can I prepare? Where can I contribute? Who needs my help? What skills do I need next?

Catastrophizing says: It is all broken. Nothing matters. The future is already lost.

I do not believe that. Not after 36 years.

What I believe is that careers are built through adaptation. Reputation is built through consistency. Leadership is built through how we show up when things are unclear. And culture is built by the daily choices we make in how we treat each other, how we talk about the future, and whether we choose to contribute or simply complain.

Fidelity is not perfect. No company is. But it is still a place with opportunity for people who are willing to grow, stay curious, build trust, and focus on meaningful work.

The best advice I can offer is this: do not outsource your outlook to the most anxious voice in the room.

Pay attention. Be thoughtful. Prepare yourself. Keep learning. Take care of your network. Take care of your reputation. Take care of your teammates. And remember that your career is bigger than any one rumor, reorganization, difficult quarter, or online thread.

I have seen Fidelity change many times.

I have also seen people build remarkable careers here because they chose resilience over fear, contribution over cynicism, and growth over retreat.

That opportunity still exists.

The question for each of us is how we choose to show up now.


D&S For Hipos only

D&S is totally focused on the few hipos. No thought or effort placed into roles for everyone else. You are lucky if they even take the time to find you a role. And forget any chance of it being explained to you how the role grows you or your career.


Spirit Airlines Employees Seek New Roles

A career fair is being held in Fort Lauderdale. Hundreds of job seekers are expected to attend. Many are former Spirit Airlines employees. Spirit Airlines ceased operations earlier this month. The airline left approximately 17,000 employees jobless.

Fort Lauderdale, Florida

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2026/05/27/ex-spirit-employees-among-job-seekers-expected-at-port-everglades-career-fair-in-fort-lauderdale/