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American tax $ goes in = American jobs go out

How does it make sense that private companies receive billions in American taxpayer dollars to run government funded programs (like Medicare and Medicaid), but are then allowed to lay off American workers and offshore those exact jobs overseas?

  1. How does this build our economy?
    When public funds pay for these contracts, shouldn't a primary goal be keeping those tax dollars circulating within the U.S. economy? Offshoring eliminates middle-class administrative jobs, taking wage tax revenues and local spending power completely out of our communities.

  2. How does this benefit the average citizen?
    The standard corporate argument is "cost savings," but rarely do those savings translate into lower healthcare costs or better services for the public. Instead, taxpayers fund the contracts, domestic workers lose their livelihoods, and profits go to corporate margins. (Sarah)

  3. Why are foreign entities allowed to manage our sensitive data?
    This is the most concerning part. Millions of members' Social Security numbers, home addresses, financial details, and medical/disability records are being accessed, processed, and stored in databases overseas. Even with Business Associate Agreements and basic CMS/HIPAA compliance, sending sensitive American data outside U.S. legal jurisdiction creates obvious security and privacy risks? Were we not just trying to ban TikTok for data reasons but sending our most private information is okay to send overseas?

Most of these are rhetorical as I know the main answer is that this is for millionaires/billionaires to gain more money and that they don’t actually care about the American people.

And Sarah if you’re wanting to reinvest into the company, why don’t you use some of your massive salary?


Predictions for FY27

Here are my top 8 predictions for the remainder of FY27

  1. GC lumped with Korea, SE&I, and Japan. Will help improve GC earnings + makes sense from consumer preference stand point. I’d anticipate some GC roles to go as they’d be duplicative of existing APLA roles
  2. Rest of APLA lumped with EMEA. Will help improve EMEA earnings. Same points as above. Will probably eliminate roles in EMEA and have them elsewhere. Makes it easier for long term roles adjustments if roles are outside of Europe. Reduce Europe logistics footprint
  3. Innovation cut heavily due to AI (graphic Tees, etc)
  4. Planning roles outsourced to India. This is no longer a tech prophecy, it’s not entering the biz
  5. Palantir/SwooshIQ engagement increases. Reducing analytics enterprise wide
  6. SCPO analytics dissolved (pushed into Biz functions)
  7. Increased hiring in NA from reduced roles in NA DCs.
  8. September HC reductions from supporting functions

The Writing is On the Wall

Whatever you just saw was 7%. No where is that anywhere near enough for whatever Visa is trying to achieve as part of the 2030 strategy that is constantly being touted.

Layoffs will be an annual strategy moving forward. More offshoring to lower cost regions like Poland. For those teams with sister teams in lower cost regions, you're merely training your future replacements.

By the time Ryan and Rajat leave the company, Visa will be a shell of its former self, and they'll just point to CBDCs as the cause instead of take accountability for their actions.


Today's London Calling Episode

She said, "the fact that four out of five of the folks who are going to move on from Centene were part of the VSP". If 61,000 were offered the VSP, and 4 out of 5 are taking it, then Centene is losing approximately 48,000 of its workforce! How is that going to help the members who have put their trust in this company? And if members now cannot speak with a real person and have to deal with the frustration of off-shore call-centers and automated bots, the future looks even worse for our most vulnerable members.


UMV Organization is going to get RIF'd senior leaders leaving

Heads up: if you're on UMV, many of the senior leaders are leaving. This is one of the orgs that will get RIF'd and moved offshore with Cognizant contracting.

Leaders who took Voluntary Separation Package

Kristen SVP,
Nicole VP,
Jeremey VP

and many other managers and engineers.

Maybe they know something you don't? If you don't have a plan, start planning now.

https://analyticsindiamag.com/ai-news/cognizant-lands-centene-mega-deal-worth-over-500-mn-report


Offshoring Medicare - just announced

Just had a department meeting, they are offshoring Medicare bus ops. made it sound like enough people took the VSP to offset lay offs but also said they didn’t know and it was above them. They claimed the VSP was a separate initiative from this and the “timing aligned” not sure how it aligned when this news could have made people choose the VSP. Not sure why they would wait to announce this after the VSP deadline. 13% of bus ops took the VSP they confirmed. Stated they were going to move people into new positions within the next few weeks which ironically aligns with the RIF date. Good luck everyone and congrats to those who accepted the VSP and it worked out.


Hiring and Firing Practices

All Internal hiring/firing immigration fraud must be well documented. Please be a whistleblower to report the fraudsters.
Also, report the unethical layoffs of American employees and any illegal offshoring practices.

Document LCA Violations: Take clear photographs of mandatory Labor Condition Application (LCA) postings as physical evidence. Federal law requires these to be conspicuously displayed on corporate notice boards, break room bulletin boards, or directly inside manager and contractor rooms.

USCIS Fraud Detection: Submit explicit details of visa manipulation directly via the USCIS Tip Form at uscis.govDepartment of Labor:

File a formal workforce exploitation complaint with the DOL Wage and Hour Division at dol.gov

Civil Rights Violations: Report the displacement of citizen employees, racial bias, or caste discrimination to the DHS Civil Rights Complaint Portal at dhs.gov

EEOC Enforcement: Trigger a formal federal investigation into national origin, race, or caste-based discrimination via the EEOC Public Portal at eeoc.gov


Mobile outages in 2026.

Something like this this would probably have never happened during the periods when the late Mel Ward and W.Frank Blount were running the company.

Likewise, when former COO Michael Rocca was overseeing networks, these incidents were not heard of.

Back in those days, there was much emphasis on local internal technical expertise, extensive testing and quality of service.

Telecom research labs should never have been demolished.
Internal training facilities should have also been maintained.

Privatisation and off-shoring has ruined the telecoms industry in Australia.
It is a terrible situation. And as a country, we a re not any better off for it.


Frontier and Ireland

I think some have asked and didn't get answers but I just heard on an all hands call today that some at Frontier as well as some from Ireland were included the last round of cuts. I didn't work with them personally but a lot of people on the call did and said loosing them was hard after everything they had contributed. I don't know the details like whether the work was offshored or just not needed but it is what it is. Odd since a lot of what we did was offshored to Ireland over a year ago.


Another layoff round on the way

Not the first time this is being reported quite a pattern now going on, but another round of layoffs under planning for late September/ early October, headcount reduction across Engineering and services due to rapid off shoring of roles to India mainly Pune.

Train your replacement in India across the next few month's and hand it your laptop will be the way this works for those to be impacted in the next round of layoffs to come.


great offshore talent on display... Lol !!!

this week everyone got to see the quality of resources from offshore during a sev1 issue call in the CSO/EdHayes Org. These folks from India cannot speak a line of English correctly, cannot articulate the problem nor the impacts, and don't even have the technical understanding.... These folks in India get hired thru recommendations, caste or region feeling or thru bribery... almost all of them who joined the bridge were remotely even qualified for the job. There is this girl who joined the call who would not understand basic instructions and the onshore experts had to come to her rescue!! Yet these crooks at the top want to ship jobs to India laying off quality talent here in the US and eventually backstabbing the american people who pay the bills for AT&T products and services!! Just crazy unbelievable that this is happening!!


Comcast stats —> Layoffs/H1-Bs/Offshoring

COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS, LLC ranks #62 of 9,347 employers tracked on layoff notices in 2026. New titles have been slapped on old, “cut” positions in order to recruit throughout tech hubs overseas. Comcast has 6,740 LCA filings (H1-Bs/offshoring) from FY2015 through FY2026. This isn’t even all of them as more have been done. The median reported wage across these filings is $111,163. Its largest state footprint is Pennsylvania with 3,909 filings. The most common job title on its filings is Software Developers but many tech positions have been hit hard.

Apparently no unemployed, laid off or talented Americans could fill these jobs nor would they appreciate a salary of $111,000 (sarcasm).


Disappointed in Kroger.

Within a year, Kroger has been in nothing but turmoil. Kroger has had an interim CEO for much longer than an interim CEO should be in said position due to still unclear circumstances of Rodney McMullen’s quick departure. They have also had incredible amounts of senior management turnover, pushed AI so far down associates throats they cannot even do their job description without someone on senior leadership telling them to have AI do it (effectively to build a repository of prompts so AI can replace jobs), and now this KCC in India that will outsource jobs from Americans all under the beginning state guise of “helping” associates.

Company wide layoffs affecting every facet of the business, RTO mandates for those who are not in power (VP’s and above are nowhere to be seen in the office), and now the fear that within a year your position will be replaced by someone overseas while the CEO gets to tout a $12 million compensation package. How are associates and shareholders supposed to be confident in the future of this business? Not to mention protestors in stores, outside offices, etc. so on top of all this you get to start and finish your day with being harassed because of Kroger senior management’s (common) approach of promising and then reversing decisions. Couldn’t imagine how associates feel.

If this company was not in such an essential industry, this management style built on lies, under delivering, and top down management sprinkled in with a psychologically unsafe work environment would almost certainly land it in financial turmoil. But I guess this all kicked off because of Publix stepping on Kroger’s heels… this response is going down the exact opposite direction.

And I bet Kroger will still market themselves as “your friendly neighborhood Kroger”, with all of the marking materials created by someone thousands of miles away. So disappointed in this company.


Make the tough choices

Layoffs will continue to target citizens. Offshoring will continue to happen to India. Then those same people will be brought back in L1b in 4-5 years back to USA. Make tough choices once you open your own business and hire locally. Change needs to start at a grassroots level, vote for policies which are towards tougher immigration policies. 20 years down, US cities will be worse than Toronto. It is in our hands now.


Morale Booster

If you want to raise employee morale, it's quite simple. Reinstate real paid time off, FTO is evil. Remove the thrive together requirements, people want ultimate flexibility. Stop off-shoring business critical roles to India, it's horrible. Nothing makes me want to go above and beyond quite like not having PTO having to attend an office to make big real estate happy all while having to train my excellent eastern replacements.


State of T. Rowe Price in 2026

This is my view of where we are in '26. Take allof this with a grain of salt as I've been wrong many times before. This is reflecting my views and I am not sharing any internal information. And, yes, I am angry:

  1. The culture has changd and not for the better.
  2. Bottom-up ideas no longer seem to matter. Period.
  3. Politics + self-preservation are in, real leadership is out
  4. WAY TOO MANY managers, way too little accountability.
  5. Collaboration is talked about. it is NOT practiced.
  6. Quality people are leaving. Some are waiting for the right time to jump.
  7. AI just an excuse to cut roles. OK, maybe has some bus use too.
  8. Some teams are way too bloated - some teams have already been cut way too deep.
  9. Offshore turns companies to sh-t, it's happening to us to. Poor quality, poor oversight.
  10. Value standards have slipped, enshitification is in progress.
  11. Come in and work/collaboration in office, but it's OK to ship work offshore. Sick.
  12. Morale is low, trust is weak, and it's gettin worse.
  13. The old T. Rowe Price is gone.

It doesn’t look good for smaller hubs

After the JR staff meeting today, I am more worried for my job than ever. It’s not about just RTO anymore or that they’re outsourcing a lot of positions. I got the strong impression that RMC ( and other business lines likely) will have designated hubs. If you’re not in one of those hubs, you are in danger. As someone in a very small hub with minimal RMC presence, this is hugely concerning!

JR didn’t say this directly but reading between the lines of what she did say, this is not a stretch. Clearly leadership wants to move away from geographically distributed teams entirely ( unless it’s collaborating with your co-workers in India or Poland, then it’s totally ok).

If you’re remote or in a hub where your business line doesn’t have much presence, it feels like you will be on the chopping block first.

It sounds like their main goal ( even though it’s so outdated and ridiculous) is to move everyone to the hubs they want them in.

She even mentioned how other banks only have a couple hubs not 22 and we all know that US Bank is now a follower so that’s the direction they will move in.


4th July 🇺🇸

If I bet my life on anything, it’s American Exceptionalism rooted in integrity, excellence, and courage.
Working alongside our global teams has only reinforced it: no other country comes close.

Yet stepping back, it’s clear how offshoring and outsourcing to low-cost, low-capability paired with unchecked onshore importing,
has frayed the very fabric of this nation.

These are people who haven’t invented or dominated in any meaningful field beyond cheap IT services.
What the he-l are we doing?
These jobs belong to American workers.
Have we done nearly enough to build the skills of those in weaker economic corners? There are proven ways to give back: rigorous education, hands-on training, community engagement . Lift them into the middle class and show them how capitalism actually works: through merit, productivity, and upward mobility.
Instead, too many short-sighted, narcissistic managers chase RSU windfalls by flooding teams with cheap bodies, piling up technical debt and hollowing out our edge.
Enough. Everyone must do their part,whatever it takes. No excuses. . It’s now or never.


Almost all onshore labor being let go in my department

They are doubling-down on their India Capability Center and doing massive layoffs after they missed earnings. If things don't improve this quarter (which seems doubtful with tight wallets keeping people away from their vets), there will almost certainly be another round of layoffs in 3 months.


DXC: Deliver Xcrement Consistently

DXC has perfected the art of lying to absolutely everyone in the same breath — customers get told their transformation is “on track” while their systems are on fire, and staff get told their jobs are “safe” roughly 48 hours before a calendar invite from HR with no agenda and the energy of a firing squad. The whole operation runs like a con trick performed by people who’ve forgotten they’re conning anyone, powered entirely by offshore teams with no documentation, account managers who’ve promised the impossible, and a management layer so detached from reality they think “delivery” is something that happens to other companies. Customers pay millions. Nothing works. Nobody knows why. Leadership gets a bonus anyway.


AEST TMTS MFS

In the cold light of day, how can employing green employees with no experience in another part of the world, add layers of management, kpis, traffic lights, scorecards, layered fu--ing engagement , QC by expats etc etc , ever be better than recruiting and developing talent at manufacturing sites.
Never.
Fu--ing id--ts.
Over 10 years they've been nothing but an overhead.


Is this how offshoring always starts?

We went from working with the vendor’s offshore contractors to now converting them to FTEs and bringing more of them. At the same time, hiring here is being scaled back, and I’d expect local headcount to keep dropping as the India team ramps up. Wondering how you see that playing out.


All KYC and Central Banker account opening being offshores

We were unexpectedly pulled into a team meeting by our C13 yesterday, which was unusual. After the 50% layoff on June 10, we were informed that the layoffs are not finished. The remaining members of our team are expected to be let go sometime within the next couple of months as the work is being offshored.

We were also told that the remaining KYC functions in the U.S. will be offshored in waves throughout the rest of the year.


How much is EM saving by transitioning to Bangalore?

For a company that earned multi billion$ per quarter, it seems minimal reward/high risk to transition to low cost and low capability workforce in a 3rd world country.

The savings seems like it is not worth the risk and also not worth destroying all confidence and loyalty of its HC10 employees.

How much is the total annual target savings of moving to third world country 1/10 salary workforce, low cost engineering, low cost fabrication and procurement?