#management

I had been lurking on this site for a while and decided to post today because I couldn't handle it any longer.

As a long-term SAP employee, I can no longer identify with the organization. We've always had reorganizations and layoffs, but I've never seen the Board and HR be so anti-employee and put employees against one another.

Here are some trends I am noticing:

There is no MOVE SAP for T1-T3 personnel.
Annual salary appraisals are not even close to inflation, thus we lose money each year.
HR-focused managers instead of development managers.
Hiring freeze.
Travel freeze.
Rumors regarding closing locations other than Walldorf and St Leon Rot.
Replacement positions only in low-cost areas.
Anti-migrant sentiment.
Board compensation increasing dramatically each year.
Almost every German employment is offered solely in Walldorf and St Leon Rot.
Performance management is a reasonable approach to pay employees less.
No more catalyst or comparable schemes.
AI-first strategy, but showing no business development.
Organizational restructuring, such as HPOM, is built on influencer propaganda.
The stock price has plummeted.
Board says regular layoffs are non-negotiable without giving a good reason.
Stupid AI replacing important support, QA, IT and development functions instead of HR.
Employees coerced into giving their managers spectacular unfiltered reviews or forego salary increments.
Share buybacks.
Budget available for executive travel and entertainment but not development.
Stupid online courses instead of career focused learning by human experts.
Legal troubles.
Acquisition after acquisition without integration of acquired employees.
Only the same people getting the big jobs and promotions everywhere at SAP while others haven't found a new position in years.
You have to be a balding German white male based near Heidelberg to land a good management position.
Anti-women sentiment.
Executives openly making derogatory statements without any consequences - equating life altering career changes to brushing teeth.
CEO having no foresight or long-term plan to improve company and instead blatantly lying about things like "we'll create new 15000 positions in India" only to follow with layoffs everywhere.
Managers given so much power that it is more important to keep your managers happy than your customers happy.
Reduction in benefits.
Anti Muslim sentiment.
Week long party budget in some areas (Signavio) while other areas suffer and don't even have budget to hire development consultants.
Too many HR employees who in turn say we have too many QAs, developers, product managers, designers, etc.
Fake career progression plans as the only way to grow is to find another job.
Too many "innovation teams" that create stuff shown at Sapphire but it never makes it into production.

I can go on and on but this is already a long list.

What do you think? Do you share a similar sentiment? Do you agree or disagree with any of the items listed here? Having a good stable job without politicking seems almost hopeless at SAP.

In the past, points like these were enough to fire board members. But now the transfer of wealth and power from employees to executives is normalized. What can employees do to get back power and ensure a stable career at SAP?

I joined a couple of years ago from a tech product company to a more senior position here. Crazy to see how much gossip and open chitchat goes on here, especially in global, about individuals. Don’t people have work to do? Where are the professionals? Management encourages it even.

Many levels of IT management (Managers, Sr Managers, director) riffed today. Hard to say what comes next but it don’t look great for TMO employees

If anyone is or was a manager and a RA comes in for a specific employee if they disagree with it for example the affected employee is a top performer can he recommend a lower performer or is the die cast and therefore the manager is powerless

My interpretation of the articles going around is that this is affecting “management” employees meaning HQ. Retail is its own thing and they are not categorized the same in the financials.

Retail moving to indirect and/or closing down will be its own thing.

So no they are not laying off field techs .Infact they are actually Hiring like crazy .The reality is that long ago the company 1 focus turned solely to wireless which we all knew was not gonna be forever.All while turning their back on the back bone bread and butter of wireline that fed their cell towers served their longtime customers towns buisness. This also was bad for wireless since if you been beaten up and abused by a company on wireline you be your not gonna go buy a wireless plan from them.Next they spent more money and time on hiring Managers upon managers to waste time trying to micromanage the people actually doing the work everyday .We now have brand that’s been beaten down has a bad look.Too much management most of who know nothing .All managing a smaller work force with less customers .Hence Layoffs

I know a restructure was said to take place and 180 store closures.. do you think we will restructure all of the territories? How do we think Sr. Directors and Directors will be impacted? Or possibly Sr. Managers and Assistant Managers?

When they say cutting managers are these the higher ups or just management in general

What percentage of management is that? How many managers does Verizon have total? This is just an awful kick in the pants.

Just in this week they are laying off as many blue badge technicians as possible to replace them with green batches, multiple managers confirmed

Just go looking for jobs and you see "semi-conductor or any city intel fabs are in" are the key words, no perks or severence payouts saves intel plenty $$

Management is trying to make the vast majority of their workforce obsolete, because they realize that those workers are coming to grips with how obsolete, and malicious, these "leaders" are.

It's a showdown on a massive social scale as haves and have nots push each other to the point of watching the resourcefulness and the competence of the individual to rise above both ownership and technology, in order to focus on one single thing - GETTING SH*T DONE.

PS. I want my Fu**ing bank back. I am not your slave. I am not your knight. I will not fight for those who seek to destroy me, or defend those who blindly comply.

Confirmed, Irvine just laid off 30+ workers in 1st and 2nd shift. Will be seeing more in the coming months when volumes get reduce. Management did not annouce ahead. Too bad for the people. Ofc management did not care.

I've been gone from Nielsen and the industry quite a few years but I still keep tabs. This is a pretty big (expensive) hire by Nielsen. Peter's job will be to take any heat from the industry that comes Karthik's way. Looks like they hired him to basically be a glorified PR guy with the client base. He has a long history and successful track record in ad sales. Whenever Nielsen has hired these big industry g-ns in the past, they fizzle out really quick and take off into the sunset with a big bag of money.

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/peter-naylor-joins-nielsen-chief-client-officer-1236574923/

Sure seems like he got Peter Principled into his role and now everyone under him is paying the price for it. I guess we all need to get used to having a new manager/director every 3 months

It’s truly amazing that Renu got recognition for an award considering the job she’s done at both VMware and OMNISSA. I can tell you firsthand working with your is full of hyperbole and and being naive. She’s been a detriment to OMNISSA and is has a big hand in its demise.

How bad the Management are, $110m down the waste as folks still think DXC are a fried chicken outlet. Hope they finally terminate this. Manchester United chiefs enter fresh talks with £20m financial blow on the horizon. Manchester United are working hard to find a new sponsor, with their sleeve sponsorship deal with DXC Technology set expire at the end of the 2025/26 season

Why are we doing this? To make the managers job easier because they just got that position because the previous manager found greener pastures at another bank? Do they not know that we all use Copilot or ChatGBT to complete these things just to get them over with?

Any areas that still have all their managers?

Managers are currently in meetings after being asked to rank their employees. Not a rumor.

Nothing more to add. It'll continue to get worse as long this is the case. We'll continue with cuts, 1% here and 2% there. If you look at what they are doing, we are destroying ourselves from inside. It's hubris, mismanagement, egos, lack of skills and common sense. Lack of emphaty and any concern for the employee.

This is where the real corruption lies at Fannie Mae. I was in a department where most of the people were management level or above. A department with 30 plus managers 5 plus directors and very little worker bees. Management level and above had a country club mentality where they all protected each other. If they truly want reform at Fannie Mae that is who they should get rid of. A department usually needs 1 director not multiple directors.

It feels like there are more unhappy people that went the EOI route due to either being tired of their incompetent supervisor/management, or tired of the never ending “initiatives” that folks dream up. The office politics these last few months has been impressive. You can definitely tell who’s got their suction in the right pit.

Benefits in 2026 are virtually nonexistent, and I can't believe there hasn't been a lawsuit. Wages are equally terrible. It’s a shame. Employees face exploitation at every level, while management is taking advantage of workers whenever they can.

All you closing managers be careful
Haywood mall Greenville had armed robbery a few nights ago.still minimum floor coverage even with this risk.

Crazy that 20% is a huge number it’s just the first stage of the management layer layoffs .But I hear it’s not even across the board.Some groups will lose less of that whole 20 some will make up a huge percentage.Sounds like the wireless corporate stores are gonna get hit really hard.But if you survive this pre Holiday round you are probably good into the New year .Best of luck .Keep your options open

WHAT CAN I DO?

My entire team lives in hub areas where the standard of living is very high. We are forced to come in 5x8 while enduring crazy traffic situations to and from work. Some of them were even asked to move to hub locations and subsequently fired.

My direct manager reports to some sort of ghetto CO where he’s surrounded by gamblers and prost---tion. He brags about paying “0” state tax. How is this fair?

Store manager plays favorite amongst managers. Promoting inexperienced managers to run departments such as beauty. Seems like the beauty department in our store is being run by the store manager herself. The pressure is on as regional and district are starting to notice the beauty manager isn't even fit to run Backstage. It's only a matter of time.

What band is an AD? Director? Sr Director?

I heard from a very reliable source 15% of the VEC MDU team is being impacted(Fios or Fixed Wireless) leaders have already had meetings with the HR Team and senior executives at the end of October to go over which employees will be impacted in the roles includes Client Executives,Associate Directors, Directors, and Senior Directors, basically each team will now have 4 client executives and covering more areas, 1 Associate director for the entire state, No more director roles, Q1-Q2 employees last day on payroll not December…if you dont believe me ask your leader what there “all day meeting was end of October” and see if everyone is giving vague answers, this layoff is starting from the top and trickling down to the bottom. calender invites will be sent out Nov 19th end of business day and your leaders will have two meeting Nov 20th, one is with the impacted employees and the other will be with the remaining team to notify them of what is happening. If your received a Leading you are technically safe, if you have any correction action disciplinary/attendance action, or your area is not performing or has decline in performance that might be an opportunity. There will also be a meeting being held with the new business module this week everyone should have a calender invite, I cant confirm any other areas of the business being impacted just this one!

Got a heads up from my Director new store formats are in the works. Won’t hit immediately but will be part of our next phase. The SM role as we know it is gone. It will transform into more of a AM type role on paper. Reduce stores down to 2 Managers. And Directors will be more like Indirect store managers where they oversee multiple stores and spend more time in stores more like a SM but not as hands on. No more cushy jobs. Basically a lot of the same responsibility without the pay and title for both Directors and SMs. It’s going to be a rough transition and the idea is hopefully some of the top high paid talent will leave or su-k it up and take the pay cut very similar to the one team strategy. The goal is reduce all retail stores and push more traffic to indirect and online. Verizon is willing to take some hits to reduce cost. Verizon has already lost just compare stock prices to T-Mo. This is the liquidation fire sale waive the white flag show them your belly and tuck your tail type strategy. We’re done, the fight is over. Store closures will not be based on volume more based on location and surrounding Verizon doors. If your store does 300 PGAs but lifetime all in have 250 deacts your phone net adds are only 50. Compared to a store that does 200 but will net say 150. Verizon would rather have the indirect take on the cost. The definition of under performing stores has changed to focus on total net phone adds. If you were around during COVID think Covid era type staffing and support. It will be very similar. It will be up to the remaining few employees to user customers to online or AI supported customer service. With little transactions in store so why keep larger stores around you can accomplish that with a kiosk basically why pay the overhead to tell customers to go online or call customer service.

Good Luck to the slope workers today. It’s sad to watch really. High $$$ consultants were given the reigns. Reminds me of the RLG days. Conoco used to be the common sense operator on the slope. Only hired good people. Those days are gone. We’ve hired some real winners over the last few years (folks that didn’t make the cut at BP and Hilcorp). To top it off, management thought it best to lay people off right before the holidays, and expect a wildly successful winter season with minimal remaining field experience. Good luck to all. Those that are asked to move on, it’s probably for the better.

I've heard that bids are open to outsource the entire department, management included. Any word? Will we all be hired by the outsourcing company?

being at the bottom of the totem pole, They need to get rid of:

R2b
5g client managers/executives that don't do a thing
Who ever manages useless door 2 door reps
B2b managing partners
Directors that WFH 4 days a week
Whoever manages indirect

You have seen over the past 2 years thousands of employees being laid off. Multiple locations/sites have been shut down. Low salary increase. Management has no plan or vision to grow. If I were in your shoes as a current employee, I would stick to the minimum rule. Rule of working zero weekends, OT, or going above and beyond at my job. It is a matter of time before you will be next on the list that will save some money for the company.

I used to like working here. Dell's new approach is to squeeze everyone until they break, then act (emphases on act) surprised when people leave. They crack the whip, throw fear around, shorten deadlines, and generally do all they can to make everybody's lives miserable. Watching it day after day is exhausting and depressing.

My manager keeps giving my ideas to someone else, ignores my requests, and subtly pushes me aside. I could stew about it, but I decided a good old "fu-k it” is better for my health. After years of hard work, I’m finally done letting this toxic nonsense eat me alive.

The district manager told my boss (area manager) that he is going to have to cut 1/4 of the 1st level managers. Does anyone know if this is true? I recently switched from a local manager in construction because I thought contractor services would be safer and I wouldn't have to deal with OPT's. Now I am worried because at least before I had people that reported directly to me. Has anyone heard anything concrete? I'm seriously considering volunteering because I cannot handle the stress. My new job is so much better than when I had to babysit union OPT's but I'm afraid I made the wrong move going to "supervising" contractors.

This centralization will eventually fail. The centralized teams aren’t built from the BUs, and most of the people there lack the capability and experience to understand how things actually get executed in a business unit — let alone run a business. Many of them have stayed in the center since they were university hires and have never worked in a BU. They have no idea how to deal with real business realities or how to actually drive a project.

In the past, they could claim that they contributed significant impacts to multiple projects and BUs to justify their PSG levels. However, their actual contributions within the BUs were largely unverified — many BU results could have been delivered even without their involvement. As a result, their impact has been largely inflated.

Do ADs and SDs really know the names of people on their teams?