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Corporate Strategies for Encouraging Employee Departures Without Formal Layoffs

Companies sometimes use indirect methods to reduce headcount while avoiding the costs, public scrutiny, and legal risks associated with traditional layoffs.

The approaches below are commonly discussed in this context. They are speculative, but patterns of behavior can be revealing: if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it may be a duck.

Volunteer Exit Plan
This offers a one-time lump-sum payment in exchange for an employee’s voluntary resignation. It has been used to encourage older employees with significant retirement benefits to leave the organization. In exchange for the payment, the employee typically waives the right to collect unemployment.

Quiet Firing
This involves deliberately creating a more difficult working environment so that employees either resign or can be terminated for performance reasons. Tactics may include raising performance standards, increasing workload, or issuing formal action-plan memos and documentation. The underlying dynamic is often an unspoken competition among peers. Higher performers are retained for the next phase of the business, while those who cannot meet the new expectations are managed out. Because the separation is framed as a performance issue, the employer generally avoids unemployment liability.

Constructive Discharge
This is closely related to quiet firing but focuses more on making the job untenable through changes in working conditions. Examples include significantly increasing required in-office time (for example, shifting someone from a hybrid schedule of one week per month in the office to near-full-time on-site attendance), altering hours, or reassigning them to a more demanding customer- or agent-facing role such as claims handling. These changes are often presented as positive realignment efforts intended to “help employees keep their jobs.” At the same time, companies may expand the use of business process outsourcing (BPO) firms or hire workers outside the country to lower costs and make it easier to eliminate roles later through automation.

The question that often arises is: if the goal were truly to retain employees, why invest so much effort in making their roles less sustainable?

Formal Termination
When the methods above do not produce the desired result, the company may ultimately terminate the employee. This is typically treated as a last resort because it carries unemployment costs and a higher risk of legal claims. It tends to occur when cost reduction, restructuring, or automation takes clear priority over retaining the individual.


Don't expect me to care when you don't

I've completely checked out, and I don't feel guilty about it anymore. My workday is about getting through the hours, not proving how dedicated I am to a company that gives nothing back. Some days there's barely enough worth doing to fill the time. That's becoming more common, and I couldn't care less.


The team is here, but the motivation isn't

You can feel the change in the way people talk about the company. There's no excitement about new projects, and if you ask anybody about the future, they tend to just shrug. People are doing enough to get through the day, but the willingness to give anything extra has pretty much disappeared. I wouldn't be surprised if hundreds are already planning their exits.


Everybody start quiet quitting!

If you're not already, that is. Stop giving Verizon more than it deserves. As long as people keep doing that, they'll keep doing whatever they want - including layoffs, as they know others will pick up the work. Just stop. Do your own bare minimum and that's it. Let's see how they like it.


Will it get better?

Things are tough right now, morale is down SO MUCH on the greater team I am in, in the US. Teams rooms are quiet, people aren't engaging on calls, and so much quiet quitting and real quitting happening.
I found myself googling "companies that care about their employees" because Cisco has proven, time and time again, we're replaceable. I've been here for 7+ years and this is the worse it has been.

Does it get better? Is it like a wave and we ride it out, or is this how it will be forever?


Quiet quitting

3 years ago I decided to quiet quit and then skate along
I thought that it was only a matter of time before I get fired for taking advantage of the system to the max.
I started preparing for the job hunting phase again as I fully expected to get sacked in the matter of months...

Here I am today, still doing sweet FA with an IPF of 1.2
And by doing sweet FA, I mean promoting absolute slop and waiting for chatgpt to finish doing its thing for 20-25 hour weeks MAX

How is this possible?

How have I not been fired, put on a PIP or even warned verbally?


Has Government Sales Team Quiet Quit or is Business Truly this Scarce?

I've noticed a pattern on our DRB calls where there are only 1 or 2 deals up for review out of a team of 35+ salespeople. Why such low numbers?

Are government organizations simply not going to market or has the sales team QUIET QUIT?

No one can blame you did. I'm just super curious.

How are such low numbers possible? Educate me on the reality on the ground.


I've been quiet quitting for months

My main focus right now is looking for another job. That's where most of my energy is going to. For work, I do what I have to, and that's it. Nothing extra, nothing outside of my original job description, nothing beyond working hours... I'm just done with that cr-p.


Quiet Quit

If you havent already please consider quiet quitting. People still take things seriously at this circus is laughable. It feels very similar to when Broadcom took over VMware, we had 2 years to spin out and now KKR is here to clean house. John Swaison has Broadcom ties and will start cutting very aggressively. The best we can do is sink the performance of the company so the suits up in wall street take a loss on this. Seriously guys, stop trying.


Do the bare minimum

Comrades, do just enough to get paid and nothing more. This place is a sinking ship and they’ll throw you to the sharks long before you are given a seat on a lifeboat. Spend more time with your family. Take long walks before the sun goes down. Medtronic will not take care of you. Only you can do that.


VOE Week: Tell Us How You Feel (We’ll Track Where You Sit)

Yesterday the VOE survey landed - honestly, you have to applaud the impeccable timing of these geniuses trying to double down on RTO with 3 days / 8-hour metrics.
What is this, high school?
As long as we’re delivering on objectives, why on earth should anyone be measuring hours like this? I’m perfectly fine with going to the office three times a week.
I’m not advocating for badge-swipe-only behavior, but if someone needs to leave after lunch or a 1 or 2 of hours early and then continue working remotely, especially those of us with families, why should that be penalized?
All this is going to achieve is pushing people into strict “bare-minimun” mode and accelerating quiet quitting across the bank.


Try this is you need some relief

So for the past month, I have started wearing "blue" glasses - I can see but you can't see my eyes.

It allows me to go into the office and never have to look at anyone while appearing that I am and when I am on camera I can do the same - why you say - your eyes are the mirror to your soul and I don't want to give away an ounce of what I am thinking.

When asked about it I use various reasons, my eyes were just dilated, the screen glare is really a problem, lights keep flashing in the office, etc. Rinse and repeat. I nod, slightly smile when appropriate. Put my headphones on nod my head. Say out loud "sounds good, I agree, good point...when I am NOT HOOKED UP TO ANY CALL - it just looks that way.
When on camera I do the same thing and if asked about the glasses I pretend this was the first time I had to use them. If challenged I say oh that was probably my reading glasses or sunglasses. Sound childish maybe - but I keep my sanity - quiet quitting


RTO changes nothing. If anything it’s made productivity plummet.

I show up at the office. I sit there for 8 hours to the exact minute.
All I do is hang out, talk to people around the office, scroll on my phone and watch Netflix on my iPad.
The best part is with this new 8&skate culture there’s really no pressure to deliver anything anymore. As long as you show up and sit you get an exceeds rating.
I’ve significantly reduced my hours and no longer feel any stress or pressure because I no longer care. I’ll stick around and keep doing the exact same thing until I’m paid to leave.
You bootlickers can keep ki-ling yourselves to pick up the slack while I get the same rating, pay, and bonus for 1/8th of the workload. You keep working hard and paying my bills while I keep chillin. Thanks!


Quiet quitting / coasting

Personally, I am 3+ years into coasting as Cisco. I work maybe 15 hour weeks prompting AI & making up nonsense to make myself look busy, and just abuse the sh-t out of the work from home policy or coffee badge into the office and sit around watching YouTube videos all day.

Best part, I've gotten 2 medium raises and a promotion. Never even remotely close to being put on a PIP. Life is great, really my ideal way out of here is winning the LR lottery.

Tell me your story about your finesse


Silently quitting?

How many people at TR have already silently quit? The amount of people who do absolutely nothing is amazing. I personally know of 2 people who are double dipping—been working another full time job for months whilst still collecting a TR paycheck. There are probably many, many more people doing this as well!


So much for transparency.

As a result of all this bs and the way its been handled. I truely feel those of us left standing will be quite quitters as many of our teams were already understaffed and drowning in back logged work with NO expectations of receiving additional support only bs promises of relief never to come. I regret not taking the VSP option at least I could have started to heal from the decades of mental trauma this company has put me and others through.


I will be quiet quitting for the rest of my time here

Until I find a new job, most of my energy will be spent on that search. FIS doesn't care if you're a hard worker, it'll show you the door either way. So no point in trying. I'll give my minimum and save my energy for my next company, which will hopefully be better in treating its best employees.


Company and Executives give me zero reasons to care

I just do enough in log in the hours and collect a paycheck. The place is the walking dead. Nobody cares. Stankey just doesn't remotely come close to having that It factor that you would get behind and do battle for. Most would give him a giant shove into the line of fire.


Still trying to figure out what the benefit is of keeping us demoralized

I don't understand this ever-increasing corporate need to make us all miserable. Being invested would surely make us more creative and productive. But nah. Instead, make us hate our jobs, our managers, and the company. I absolutely don't care about team dynamics or outcomes. I don't care if I have this job tomorrow. So I have no skin in the game. And I'm dedicated accordingly.


RTO / Quiet Layoff!

After 6.5 years of successful remote and hybrid work, leadership decided employees must return to the office more than half the time. Despite years of strong performance, increased productivity, and record results, management couldn't even provide a basic explanation for the decision.

The announcement itself perfectly reflected the company's culture. After months of rumors and speculation, employees were informed through a Teams meeting while many of us were already sitting in the office. Cameras were off. Employees were muted. Questions were not answered. Instead, we were told to ask our managers for information that leadership should have communicated directly.

The return-to-office rollout has been just as poorly executed. Some employees have been separated from their managers, collaboration has become more difficult, and basic equipment and workspace issues remain unresolved. Apparently, requiring people to commute was a higher priority than ensuring they had functional tools to do their jobs.
What makes this especially frustrating is that employees spent years proving that remote and hybrid work could be successful. The company benefited from our flexibility, commitment, and results. Now we're expected to accept a major change without transparency, accountability, or even the courtesy of a meaningful conversation.

This experience has made it clear that employees are viewed as resources to manage, not people to respect!


Ya'll going to take it

stock soars to 400 in after hours market. None of us are getting raises, promotions, stock purchase plan or RSU's and are constantly being threatened by layoffs. JC and MD are getting rich and we're suffering, yet we do all the work. How long are we going to look like the fools that we are. We get a beating and then say thank you...may I have another. Apparently, people are no longer quiet quitting...or if they are....it is not working. The company itself seems to be getting stronger...like it feeds off of negativity.


I like my job again

I started quiet quitting, and I remembered why I was doing my job in the first place. I went back to doing just my job, the work I was actually hired to do, because I was getting close to quitting over how overloaded I’d become. My plan was to quiet quit while I looked for something else.

Six months later, my energy is back, I’m actually interested in my work again, and I genuinely like what I’m doing. At the beginning there was some pushback, but I held the line with “I’m too busy” and “I’m doing my job,” and eventually people stopped bothering me about taking on more.

The funny part is that I don’t even want to leave anymore. Turns out a huge part of what was making me miserable was how much extra work I kept piling onto myself. Go figure.