#career

I know this varies based on your severance amount, if you are the only earner in the family, etc.

But for you personally, how long will you wait to start the job search? Do you plan to take any time off for yourself before starting a search?

Do you guys use the internal movement site? To find roles faster within fiserv? I think I want to move to banking instead of IT but it’s getting complicated online. Confused

Our group is going through a re-org and will re-level jobs accordingly. Does bonus change or can you carry all your current comp with you?

How long does one have to be at COP to keep the companies invested portion of the 401k. I am still in college and currently interviewing for a role here.

I've heard it is 3 years but also 5 years? Which is it for full time?

Thank you in advance, I was too shy to ask the recruiter.

As a tech with a goal of going into network engineering, should I give up? I don’t want to be a tech forever but this is making me lose hope.

Never be loyal to Dell or any employer. Make sure to always serve your own interests. Never stop looking for new opportunities and as soon as something good comes your way, be ready to move on. Loyalty is dead when it comes to employers. Make sure the same is true for you as well.

Unfortunately, a lot of people who will end up impacted by Verizon layoffs and start their job search in earnest are in for a terribly unpleasant surprise, even shock!

1. Working at Verizon doesn't automatically qualify you for a great new gig. It's corporate work that relies on a system within which many people are involved to generate the final output.

2. Verizon's reputation in the external world is not as great as you might think.

3. Verizon resume accomplishments don't mean much to people outside Telecom.

4. Telecom Industry hiring is slowing.

5. The New Jersey employment market will be flooded with people with similar skill sets making it hard to differentiate yourself from ~15,000+ other people out on the streets looking for work at the same time.

6. Verizon pays well and there's a good chance that wherever your next job is your compensation including benefits will be significantly less.

7. Corporate management and occupational jobs like what you had at Verizon will be harder to come by as time goes on due to companies automating via AI functions (e.g., Finance, Accounting, Legal, Marketing, Operations, etc) that previously needed to be performed by human resources.

8. Your next position after Verizon is likely to be in a different industry and possibly in a totally new job function. Prepare yourself mentally as you'll need to be flexible if you want to continue to work.

9. Your Verizon personal network will be vitually meaningless in your emploment search as people you thought were your friends and allies will forget you quickly. Too many others will be worried about their own job situations and those who remain at Verizon will be too busy trying to pick up the pieces of the cutback aftermath.

10. Verizon is firing you and you will never be welcomed back. Forget about returning to Verizon at a later time as it's over no matter how personally invested you've been to VZ over the years. Put VZ in the rearview mirror and move on to your next position.

11. Verizon will not be providing you with personal recommendations. You'll be directed to an automated employment verification system using VZ's company code which anyone looking to hire you will need to access.

12. Verizon severance will go quickly. Immediately review and cutback on your discretionary spending. Avoid the temptation to draw on your 401k as you'll need to pay taxes and anything you draw out at a time you can least afford to and it will take you years to recover against retirement savings.

13. Leaving Verizon employment you're going to be very self confident, however you'll soon experience periods of self doubt and discouragement as you go thru the job search process. Hang in there as this is a normal part of looking for a job.

14. The Job Search procees has drastically changed since you went to work for Verizon. Take the time to learn how to effectively search for a job using the latest techniques and approaches.

15. Verizon job skills are not necessarily transferable to other lines of work. You're going to need to invest time and effort into developing new skills to make yourself marketable.

16. Your post-Verizon job search will likely take time. The average search has been ~five months so yours could longer or shorter depending on many factors including how diligently you pursue your search.

17. If you choose to continue to work in Corporate America post-Verizon you will go thru layoffs again.

18. You no longer work for Verizon. Your job is to find a job.

19. Verizon's DEI policies are not practiced by many external employers (& rightfully so as everyone should be treated equally) and as such you're going to need to secure a new job based on your personal merits and abilities. If you're older don't worry as there are companies that will hire later career workers. If you're younger make sure you shed any thoughts of job entitlement and have a willingness to work hard to please your employer.

20. After leaving Verizon you will no longer have a structured routine. Do your best to maintain a daily routine and continue doing the other aspects of your life (i.e., attending church, volunteering, socializing, etc.). Above all do not allow yourself to withdraw and become isolated.

21. Being a Verizon Employee is no longer a part of your identity. Recognize that there are other more important aspects that make you who you are (i.e., relationship with God & family, values and beliefs, personality, interests, etc.).

22. You will eventually get thru this period of your life and forget about Verizon. Yes, this will be a time of personal challenge, but you will emerge stronger having personally grown thru the experience.

23. Leaving Verizon is an excellent time to reevaluate what you want out of the remainder of your life. For some it may be the opportune time to retire, while for others they may choose to reposition themselves with a new career (e.g., entrepreneurship, taking up a trade, Non-profits, ministry, other?). If you still need to work don't allow yourself to quit the workforce prematurely.

24. Verizon is just a company. Many people mistakenly worship at the throne of the company when in reality as a human organization it will eventually fail everyone that is part of working there. Remember, the Lord has a plan for your life and he will guide and direct your steps when you trust Him (Proverbs 3:5-6).

If you're early or mid career think longer term about the implications of a shrinking oil and gas industry, and where you want to be in the future. This will NOT be the last round of layoffs if history is any guide. Do not wait too late to transition to something else with more long term promise. Don't box yourself into a role that will not translate to another one elsewhere. It is quite rare that you will make it past 55 (or even 50) in this industry and by then it would be too difficult to pivot.

Sound advice. OP: @c8+1ka0j1k60

IF YOU ARE NOT UNION YOU ARE AT RISK…. Get your resume ready and prepare for the worst. Hope it goes well for everyone.

Hello. I have been told I am being laid off and my term date is 6 months away. I work remotely and live in a small town. There is a job in Cargill in the same level I am that I am qualified for. Debating on whether I take the severance (about a years worth) and run or apply for the job and if I get offered it, lose my severance. Has anyone been through something similar? I can’t really start looking for a job outside yet because of my term date being so far in the future. Thanks in advance. I am just really stressing out and not sure what to do

From Reddit:
I'm not talking about the dough facilities. I'm talking about corporate staff.
There has been no notifications, no conversation, no announcements. I think this is standard operating procedure for a company that is currently being sued for failure to notify about layoffs.

Every day a different department has had people let go and by my count there are about 30 or so who have been let go. Some are offered early retirement, some are just called into a meeting with someone who is not their boss and that is that. Almost of them have been at Panera for more than 10 years. This is not who we are supposed to be but when someone shows you who they are, you should listen and so should we.

More than a few people have said that layoffs will continue until next week but no one actually knows because no one is actually saying anything. I think the only reason they are doing it this way is because they laid off a bunch of HR people last month. I'm sorry, they did not get laid off, they were told their jobs were moving to Boston and they could apply but they would get no bump in pay.

Here is what you need to do:

• Stay calm. The decision has been made and nothing you can do will change it.
• Give recommendations and get references. Have one last conversation with that friend or manager.
• Download or offload anything you want to keep. Performance reviews and letters that say you did a good job, those are yours, those belong to you. Anything you produced like reports or summaries of your work, save it, change some numbers and keep it because you want to remember what you did.
• Start looking for work now. This company is sinking and so are our opportunities.
• If you work in the office, bring a bag in tomorrow and be ready to walk out.

If you survive the cuts keep looking for work. This company is on its way down and it will not help your career to ride it out looking for a nice severance. Our sales have not been this low since the pandemic. The people in charge have zero understanding of what this company is.

If you were in a Roundtable discussion with a VP does that help your chances? LOL

I joined Verizon two years ago right out of college, and I can’t remember a single stretch of time when layoffs weren’t hanging over everyone’s head. Was it always like this in the past, or is this just how things are now? Is it the same everywhere? Is this what I have to look forward to for the rest of my working life?

A growing number of job seekers are using dating apps like Tinder, Bumble and Facebook Dating to make professional connections amid a tough job market, according to a ResumeBuilder.com survey. One in three dating app users said they used the platforms for career-related reasons in the past year, and nearly one in ten said it was their primary goal.

Among those users, 88% reported successful professional connections, with many gaining mentorship, job leads, interviews, or even job offers. ResumeBuilder’s Chief Career Advisor Stacie Haller explained that as LinkedIn becomes increasingly competitive, dating apps offer a more personal and less formal networking option focused on human connection.

Users across age groups and income levels are experimenting with this approach, with higher earners more likely to use dating apps professionally. Most said they were transparent about their intentions. Some rewrote their dating profiles to resemble resumes, and several reported quick job results.

While some found the approach “weird but effective,” many said it reflects how difficult traditional job hunting has become. Beyond career benefits, 58% of participants also developed romantic relationships through their networking efforts, leading Haller to joke that some are landing both “a job and a relationship.”

https://www.hrdive.com/news/job-seekers-swiping-right-search-new-job-dating-apps/805033/

A heart warming article on WSJ about the longest serving employee of QC..

De... ..nch at Qualcomm
Principal engineer/manager
Age: 61
Date hired: 1987

Early days: Qualcomm’s longest-serving employee moved to San Diego after college, looking for warm weather. He saw a classified ad in the San Diego Union-Tribune in 1987 and applied for a role as a technician. He was 22. “I had no idea what the company was,” he said. Qualcomm would go on to power the technology used inside millions of cellphones and other devices, with Punch working on many of the company’s key projects.

I am at company less than 5 years. In engineering. I am in scope. I have been applying for jobs, an offer is in works. It’s 30% lower than what i am making right now. It’s not in Oil and Gas. Should i take it or ride it out?

How many are waiting for that payoff, that tap on the shoulder, that bonus to leave the sinking ship.

But worse than that, how many are just coasting along without a care in the world, ensuring that the ship will inevitably end up sinking, despite any efforts to trim costs.

Re-Invention, Own-it, no end of the different ‘Emperors New Clothes’ plans.

Face it - if you have any self respect you should call it a day and go get a new job, somewhere you can see a long term career outlook.

I have no sales experience past little baby deals, can I be a CRO of a billion dollar company too?

They just leave. They silently pack up their value, their loyalty, their potential, and take it where they will be appreciated. They don't waste time arguing for respect or begging to be seen. If a workplace fails to recognize their worth, they simply move on to the places that do. Because the best talent doesn't need to shout. They let their absence speak louder than their presence ever could.

i am deeply concerned and worried as a vague generalist jumping every few years across unrelated roles.

like a feather drifting through the wind, with zero control and zero influence, completely at the mercy of the gods above

i gotta get out of here but im stuck

I asked Perplexity how do I explain to my children they are not going to college because I was laid off from Verizon? Thanks for the suggestion Dan!!

"Remind your child the situation is not their fault and that you are proud of them, regardless of where they go to college. Stay supportive and keep future conversations open as feelings and circumstances evolve.

Acknowledge that disappointment is natural but that together you can navigate these changes and seek alternatives. This approach will help your child feel seen and supported, and make it easier to tackle practical next steps."

Just want to get info before I change positions please.

What a terrific company. I love the unlimited PTO and all the tools available to drive our career ambitions.

Growing up I would always hear colleagues in college and my first few jobs talk about their aspirations and dreams. I would always hear something along the lines of: I want to one day move to LA, New York, Seattle, Austin, or Miami. If international, I would hear London, Paris, Dubai. Never once had I ever heard someone mention: I want to one day aspire to move to Dallas.

Younger folks are often more ambitious as they are in the earlier part of their career. I have never once heard one of them mention Dallas being a part of their dream or ambition. Dallas is the place where people who fall short of their aspirations end up and their dreams die.

…what’s your plan now? Are you taking some time or are you jumping into a job search? What are you doing with your free time?

Jeremy “Jobs for Life” tells NS student conductors “ They have a “Career not a JOB “… I wonder if he told that to the current UP employees being furloughed ? How many folks with years of experience lost their jobs to PSR ? NS employees have no idea what Jimmy.V is capable of doing to a railroad !

If you could say bye bye to Verizon, where would you go? What would you do?

Been giving it serious thought, as I have been job searching and finding little movement or activity from applying, agency recruiters, etc. It might be due to now in Q4 and "circle back season", but I wonder if I should use this time to explore other options and going back to school part-time.

Anyone else thinking about this?

Every day there's somebody saying it's happening tomorrow. Until we have official word, stop worrying and get to looking for something else. Whether you're laid off or not this round, there's always going to be the next one. The only useful thing to do right now is be proactive in your job search. That's it.

Full disclosure I’m still here at CVX but I have been on the job search, aggressively i might add, since January. It will be nearly a year soon. Still not 1 offer or even a single final round. Any SWE type people find anything recently? I genuinely don’t know WTH is going on nor what to do anymore.. I have an Ivy League EE degree, 6 YOE, impressive GitHub, i can shoot the sh-t w people, etc…. Plz someone give me hope. I’ve even looked at technical sales or consulting roles and there’s no bites. I’ve expanded my geographies to legitimately every U.S. state and even some European metros. Ive made it to 2nd or 3rd rounds only to be ghosted, EVERY SINGLE TIME. Not a single final round… Doesn’t matter if i had a referral and great convos with the teams. D-mbfounded. I don’t understand. Is it just over for me? Like WTH happened? Anyone else in the same boat ?? I’m losing it yall.

It sounds like the VP gave some pretty blunt advice regarding career progression for first-level managers. If the manager doesn't transition to an IC, they might be at risk of getting a pink slip

Damn I knew I should have gone into medicine 😂

Long story short, get some skills here and hit the road. All Cogent wants to talk about is how to save a dollar and how to get excellent results from cheapest test equipment. They are all about serving the higher end customers and heck with the low hanging fruit. I do wonder how long they will be in business once the T-Mobile money runs out. They do like to under cut Lumen, ATT and Zayo but there will be a day when the big boys get smarter.

If I survive tomorrow, I’m contemplating moving on or finding something new. I feel like this company is never going to recover. Is this rash thinking or do others feel the same? There just is no clear path to recovery.

As many of you wait to hear your fate tomorrow this message actually goes to everyone. I was impacted by a previous layoff at Target.

If you do get bad news tomorrow, just know that you will survive this, and it will be but a blip on your life radar.

My ask to each of you, regardless of whether you’re still employed, is that you should never assume the company you work for is your friend or has any loyalty towards you. All companies are concerned about their bottom line and bottom line. Any of them would fire whomever they need to if they think it will make them a dollar more.

Employees are simply “headcounts”/numbers.

You are paid on payday for the period of time worked. At that point, each of you agree as to whether there will be another pay period. Either of you can decline and the agreement is over.

Live within your means and do not give your employer power over your well-being.

I know a lot of people will jump straight into applying, but I plan to take a week or two to clear my head and just breathe. None of this has been easy, and I think taking a little time to calm down and reset is important. But I don’t have a partner or kids to support, so I know it’s easier for me to say that than for those who do.

I have to imagine that if we do survive that morale is going to be bankrupt here. I would rather have a job, but I hope people realize that they are very talented and we deserve better of our employer. Don’t settle for anything less. Let’s support our co workers who do get let go and keep fighting for the kind of careers we all want… which is hopefully not this.

I am in the final round of interviews with Anthem and feel good about getting the job. However I’m in final round interviews with a smaller company that I think will have lower pay. For those of you who work there, is Anthem a good choice?

Why they give me only 2 weeks?

I put on my resume that I’m management material. How long before I apply for greatnes?

I heard the office was a hoe down show down ya feel. When we going back?