#careerswitch

Thirty years at Pepsi, slightly more. My background is limited to beverages, which has shaped my entire life. Normally my boss shares details, but this time there is silence. Two colleagues heard news at the bar, suggesting my turn may be coming. My only realistic choice seems to be Red Bull or a comparable brand, since the national role selling to my customer is open. I am seeking advice from those who moved elsewhere or once occupied my position. I do not want to forfeit severance if offered, and I am unsure what else I might pursue. Perhaps I should wait for a Celsius opening. Please advise.

Serious responses only as I am impacted by latest surplus. Is it possible to get a sales position without sales experience? There are so many sales positions listed currently. I have product knowledge and customer buy flow experience that has been acquired over time. Is sales position considered management position I.e. could it be a lateral transfer? Have others tried this route? Any feedback on this? Thanks in advance!

it's happening. IT is over , Chinese Ai bubble bursted.

My advice to those who're looking to leave EM is to look outside of the industry. If you don't, you'll just end up in a very similar situation with very bleak future prognoses.

Part of me wants to leave, but starting again at this stage of my career feels like a huge risk. For now, I'm only staying because I don't know what other realistic option I have.

Since the topic continues to be discussed in bits and pieces across multiple threads that were originally about other topics, here's another thread dedicated just to RTO facts and misconceptions.

Disclaimer: Yes, I am aware the goal posts have changed and are likely to change. This information is based on current expectations.

Partial In-Office Days:

The "Working in the office: In-office attendance and reporting (Global)" article FAQs state "The current dashboard and reporting do not use duration as part of the formula and do not define a set number of hours that equals a 'day' in the office. Any amount of time worked onsite is counted as a day worked on the dashboard. That said, the expectation of working a full day onsite remains unchanged."

Key Word: Current.

Also important to note that it does not say they are not tracking hours - it's simply not part of the formula, again, currently. Hourly adherence is being tracked and leaders are expected to speak to team members who have a pattern of working partial days in office.

How the In-Office Percentage is Calculated:

1. The current metric is the average over each rolling three-month period. January through June are no longer factoring into that. Current rolling average is based on July through September.

2. If you've averaged more than 60% per three-month period (Jan-Mar, Feb-Apr, Mar-May, Apr-Jun, May-Jul, Jun-Aug, Jul-Sep), you're fine.

3. If you continue to average more than 60% across Aug-Oct, Sep-Nov, Oct-Dec, and so on, you will continue to be fine.

4. If your Jul-Sep average (or any three-month period in the future) is less than 60%, yes, you will have to work additional days in office to raise that average.

5. You can calculate in advance how many days you need to be in office each month, based on your Adjusted Working Days (Total Available Days minus Vacation/Holiday/Sick days) to maintain the more-than-60% average across each rolling three-month period. Further, you can calculate in advance what your year-end average will be using the same method.

6. Yes, I am aware we should not have to do that.

7. The "Working in the office: In-office attendance and reporting (Global)" article FAQs in MyHR address the change that took place in April.

"Q. Am I held to the 'more than 60% in-office' expectation for Q1 2026 if the updated measurement approach didn't take effect until Q2 2026?

A. Yes, as the expectation of working three-plus days in the office was established and communicated over 12 months ago."

Reason being that three-plus Total Possible Working days in office each week in January, February, and March (not Adjusted Possible Working Days) averages at more than 60% and would have been achieved by employees following the expectation for Q1, which, again, is no longer factoring into the three-month average.

1. This isn't opinion or preference or bootlicking, just math.

How PTO Factors In:

The "Working in the office: In-office attendance and reporting (Global)" article FAQs include the below:

"Q: Does this mean I need to enter all my paid time off (PTO) in Workday?

A: Yes. A full day is deducted from your available working days for the month only if you record four or more hours of PTO for that day in Workday. PTO of less than four hours does not reduce your available working days for the month. Please note that PTO entered after month-end will not be reflected until the next monthly data refresh. If backdated PTO is entered after month-end, your in-office percentage will automatically be recalculated and updated during the next monthly refresh cycle."

In Workplace Excellence, under "What is not changing," the "In-office policy" segment states "If-office expectations will remain at more than 60%. Absences such as paid time off (PTO), sick time and volunteer time will continue to decrease the available office days and will not be counted as an in-office day."

'Am I Going to Get Fired?':

If you shrugged off the requirements all year that were communicated as "comply or goodbye" and are now scrambling to try making up for it, I don't know what to say other than you're probably out of luck.

At the end of the day, the MC is going to do whatever they want and justify it however they want and there's nothing we can actually do about it other than to try and avoid becoming a target. The TTUS doesn't matter, WE feedback doesn't matter, they want to save money through cheap labor and this nonsense helps them get there. The road to being a trillion-dollar company is paved with our terminated careers.

I would be an antiques dealer.

I put in my two weeks, and somehow that was way more nerve-racking than I expected. To say the job wasn't working out would be an understatement, so you'd think I'd have felt nothing but relief.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/5-signs-its-time-seriously-explore-leaving-your-job-kathy-caprino-fzmxe/

Finally took the leap and got an offer that blew me away. I won't say the grass is guaranteed to always be greener, but I can tell you this: good things happen when you leave your comfort zone.

I've watched coworkers jump to competitors and complain about the exact same issues we're having. It's the same circus, just different clowns.

My last day was July 31st from the Chandler site. Just hired with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, more pay than I was making at Intel, seems like a better group of co-workers and more fun for sure. Don’t fret being laid off from Intel its not the only game in town and be open to other vastly different fields, I was young enough to still be under the age limit for ICE so that was good.

There is life after Dell.
I left at my own accord, EMEA based, 20 years in ISG, 50+ years old. So basically the sweet spot for some of the trolls on this site :-)

Started looking last year when the "return to office" fad was at it's peek. I applied for over 30 roles, I got 6 interviews, 2 ended in no offer, 1 ended in a offer lower than my salary and then 2 that matched my salary and 1 where my salary increased. I accepted one that matched my salary and I am (so far) very happy with the change. I purposely chose smaller companies and business areas that was interesting to me and in a way quite a bit different than my previous role.

Now for all of you who for some reason believe that skills acquired in a multinational, experience and business understanding is somehow not valued outside, You need to think again... In all the interviews I had I can tell you that the skills you have are very much sought after and they are transferable. If you have skills and experience from: Technical Support, Services, Sales, Pre-Sales, Business Operations, Business Analysts, Service Delivery, Customer Success, Management, Business Processes, AI, Automation etc etc you have skills that are transferable. And there are opportunities out there (I did find loads of "junk" job listings though, very annoying)

With all the nonsense being posted on this site I thought I would let you know that there are alternatives out there...

If you're good at your job you have nothing to worry about. If you're not, then well... start updating that resume my subnormal friends

Looking to transition from Merrill to possible portfolio manager 1 position in the private bank. Does anyone know much about PB these days?

recently got a very toxic manager—an Indian guy. He has serious trust issues and creates a highly toxic work environment. I’ve had Exceeds Expectations ratings for the last five years. Should I continue here or start looking for opportunities outside?

If you are leaving Centene which new industries are you looking at? Or are you staying in health care in one capacity or another? I am concerning leaving health care.

This is just a general question for retail workers, especially Sams Club workers. As a long time associate, I have never entertained the idea of leaving until the last few years. However being there for as long as I have, with established vacations, and PTO, and of course insurance, it feels as if my hands are tied and I should just su-k it up. I am not happy as to the way the direction of this company has gone, or the leadership within the walls of my store. I don't want to sound like a je-k, but I feel as if I so much better then where I am currently stuck at. That I am wasting possible untapped potential. I know that many of you probably know the feeling or may be struggling with the same internal fight. To take a leap into the unknown feels a bit scary, since I am unsure of what to go into next? But I also know that I am suffocating where I am at. And don't want my life to pass me by, knowing I could have been more. Has anyone here successfully navigated away from Sams Club? To put into context, I am a 22 year associate.

All of us basically have got three choices. Stay and take the abuse. Move up internally for a real raise. Or leverage the name on the resume and get a big bump somewhere else while Oracle still means something (it won't for long). Frankly, I don't want to stay where I'm not valued.

For those who chose to leave after a reorganization and successfully landed a new role—how did you approach it?

This reorganization has been incredibly draining. I’m grateful to still be employed, but I’ve taken on responsibilities that are scoped nearly three grade levels above my current role, and I’m realizing it’s time to move more strategically.

I’m open to contract work and seriously considering submitting my two weeks once I have a solid transition plan. I’m feeling depleted, but I know I need to start taking steps toward something better.

For those who have made this kind of move, what helped you navigate the transition?

Is there a gaming company left that's actually hiring people and not laying them off? Where are we supposed to find new jobs? I really don't want to change industries, but the way things are looking, I won't really have a choice.

Tech role. Anyone test the waters in the job market yet?

I'd like to hear if there is anyone here quit their job at Cisco to start a growing midsize company. I am thinking about it, because I find Cisco culture toxic and highly receptive. I have never worked in such a large company before and I have never felt this unmotivated in my job.

Any post-Cisco experiences? Hopefully in the lighter side

I’ve started applying for jobs outside of 3M. Some of them ask if there is anything to stop me from doing the work (like a non-compete clause or similar). Does anyone know if this is a thing for 3M? I looked on the company portal and of course can’t find anything.

It’s been exactly one year since my short meeting that ended my time at USAA. I stopped by here to see how things are going, and all I can say is I feel bad for everyone still stuck there. Even when I left, getting work done was already a nightmare, and from what I can see, it’s only gotten worse since then. If you can, I’d seriously suggest trying to leave. My layoff ended up being exactly what I needed to get out of a toxic place and find something where I don’t dread even the thought of work.

Unless you’re Clay Magouyrk, Mike Sicilia, or have a personal connection to them, no one here is safe. Everyone is replaceable!

And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you can start looking for a new home. You’ll be far happier somewhere that actually values you.

It’s Sunday and just a reminder you don’t have to live in fear, deal with RTO, the obsessive micromanagement, the constant nitpicking of everything, the extreme cheapness and duplicity.

Use whatever resources are available for training and development and channel those to an external opportunity.

I did it and I’m better for it. This place will survive without you. Or it won’t. Who cares. That’s someone else’s problem. Not yours.

Put yourself first, get up, and walk out that place, and never look back.

I only worked at DXC a short time, but long enough to see what it's really like. If that place ever had a good reputation in the industry, it's destroyed now. I hate that I have to put its name on my resume. It doesn't help me. In fact, I have a feeling it probably hurts me.

For those that have left Macy’s what are you guys doing now? What other jobs are better than Macys? I want to leave the company but there isn’t much options for me out there. Been with the company for over 20yrs, would I be eligible for a package or anything of that form?

How did we all do with the job search? I was blessed to be able to snag a job pretty quickly. To the people who are left behind: you will NEVER have less work than you do right now, but you'll probably have more eventually. Private equity isn't going to spend income on additional payroll. If you're considering leaving I say look around, it's not so bad out here. Then again it took a shove to get me out the door so who am I to preach? Good luck everyone, may the grass be greener on this side.

Went to a smaller refiner - 20% compensation increase (salary & bonus). No giant corporate office full of "experts", "chiefs", "advisors", etc. Work done in house at the sites, no BTC's, GBC's, etc. Work is done efficiently and most importantly, correctly, the first time. It is a pleasure again to come into the office every day. No shuffling the deck of people every 6 months, so that "decision makers" can run /hide from how horrible things are run. No "ticketing system" full of unanswered, or supposedly resolved and closed tickets that still need to be addressed. The only thing I lost was saying that I worked at EXXONMOBIL! Seeing that most of my new coworkers came from places like XOM, Shell, BP, Dow, etc., it's was eye-opening to find out that saying you work for XOM may be more of a hinderance/anchor in your career, as you are thought of as a delegator of work/ticket enterer, as opposed to someone that does real work (how accurate)! Good riddance XOM!

What are some good jobs for nurses? I work at a busy hospital and am really stressed out and a friend told me to check out insurance jobs.

Any suggestions for best job sites to apply for new job? Friends say LinkedIn - but never had luck there. What sites do you use / recommend? Been out of work 6 months & $ is tight.

I see posts from people here that say they left Nielsen and they are happier and/or they earn more money at their new jobs. Some of you even say that you've "found freedom". For those of us that are looking for work it would be really helpful if you could let us know what job you were doing with Nielsen and where you went? Let us know if any of your Nielsen skills transferred over that your new employer may have been interested in.

here is a quick rant and i hope it helps someone…

i was sitting in a meeting at work when i made the decision that changed everything.
my boss was talking. i don’t even remember what about — something minor, some non-issue being stretched into a conversation because that’s what meetings are. and i was sitting there half-listening, the way you do after enough years, and i just looked at him and thought it so clearly. i cannot do this anymore. not another ten years. not five. not one.
which sounds dramatic maybe. but i’d done everything right. two degrees, years of showing up, taking on responsibility, being the person who got things done. i did what you’re supposed to do. and there i was in my 50s, still just making it month to month. still waiting for something to shift.
i walked out of that meeting — not stormed out, just quietly left — got a coffee, sat down with a notebook, and wrote one sentence.

i am never, ever working for anybody else as long as i live.

i had no idea how i was going to make that true. none (it turned out well) but that almost didn’t matter, not right then. what mattered was i meant it. fully, no asterisk. and i knew i wasn’t going to talk myself back out of it the next morning like i probably had before.

i wasn’t going to sleepwalk through my own life again. that part i was sure of.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

I know I should leave. Everything points to it. I have an open invitation at a friend's startup. But I'm stuck, unable to take the first step. I hate that I'm choosing to be miserable because I'm too scared to make a change. Dell is the only thing I've known for so long. I know many who feel the same way. It's almost like some weird type of Stockholm Syndrome at this point.

Recently things have been looking up for me. I had a bad run at Oracle. Was sabotaged along the way and eventually left when others were getting credit for the work I did. It's a bad place to work.

After leaving I had time to think about what had happened at the company. I posted several things on this site thinking that I might be able to warn some people who were still there. Perhaps some of that got through, perhaps not. It's difficult to tell what the result of that was, except for the harassment that ensued from trying to warn others.

But, I find that that harassment has a silver lining to it. I have learned a great deal about what was done to me and also about the people who were involved in it all. Over the years I have learned more about others who are associates of those people.

I have also learned a great deal about how they manipulate people, both at the company and elsewhere.

And in the past few years, after leaving the company, I have found that there are others, probably not in their network, who are using the same set of skills as they were. It has become very easy for me to pick these people out, as they all look for the same things and all function in the same way. Trivial really, once you know what they do and what to look for.

I have done some studying of my own, lots of DVDs, etc on the subject are available. I find it very interesting, although, I probably would not have pursued it without the steady stream of harassment that has come my way.

Recently, I have created a list of others that I have found with similar skills. Seems like everyone, really. It's really an epidemic although most people are unaware of it.

I have decided to pursue my list.

I am hoping that as I produce information on each one in turn, I will be able to share that with authorities and hopefully gain the trust of authorities with my skill in exposing those who manipulate people in this way.

I think it can be done, and really, these people have left me no other alternative.

I start this week and am really looking forward to it. No money involved, but there is knowing that I am helping others and that is very important to me. Maybe a couple of books might come out of it? Who knows?

Good luck to everyone.

Telecom has been harsh on workers for years, and it doesn’t seem to be getting better. If you have a way out, take it. I made the jump and the difference is night and day. There’s a whole world of jobs that actually value you.

Has anyone else landed a new role and been shocked by how much more it paid compared to Cigna? I moved into a similar position and my salary jumped by around $12k without added responsibility. It changed how I look at what I was earning before. Losing that job pushed me into something better.

Hi I’m currently at a company with higher pay but toxic manager. Thinking to return back to company with same title and pay when I left. Is it worth the switch?