#worklifebalance

To all those requesting information be shared. That's NOT how business works. Legally they cannot share impacted work groups or reduction figures until after it settles down. To do otherwise would be stupid. I put up with it for 30+ years and knew every 3-4 years heads are cut. It's part of the game.

Please, if you are not satisfied, get a new job elsewhere. Life is too short!

Let’s be honest at the end of the day we’re here for a paycheck. Not because we want to provide a stellar mobile service to anyone. Nobody grows up and says I wanna build a mobile network. We are here for a paycheck of which almost nothing consist of stock and the little stock we do get vest over four years. Nobody cares about where this company is going and from conversations today everyone is hoping SpaceX eats our lunch.. yes, there are some people who don’t like him for his politics. But we are unfit to succeed because none of the employees have a reason to care. The ability to be lazy at work is the only saving Grace of Verizon.

lol....have fun eating starlink for lunch lmfao, what ya gonna do now T?

Has Five9 turned into a burnout factory to just burn through good people with no thought about maintaining our ability to complete our mission...

Initial jobless claims saw a slight decrease last week, indicating a continued trend of low layoffs. The four-week average for these claims also declined, suggesting ongoing stability in the job market. This data points to businesses feeling confident in their current workforce and sales projections. Consequently, hiring has remained subdued, creating a market characterized by both low job losses and low new hires. The overall unemployment rate remains at a historically low level.

Washington, D.C.

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/wire/business/unemployment-benefit-claims-dipped-slightly-last-week-as-layoffs-remain-low/article_e873423f-64d2-51d4-87f3-72c475727831.html

If you've ever worked for a genuinely toxic and vidnictive boss, you probably know how this goes... You try to push back and things get much worse... Somehow you're always the one who ends up paying for it. You might be 100 pct right about the situation but being right doesn't mean much when the boss has all the power. And don't count on HR or upper management stepping in. They probably know that boss is sh-t but they don't care enough to do fix the problem.

At some point you have to ACCEPT that the boss isn't going anywhere, so you need to. Obviously that's easier said than done, especially in this job market. Maybe you can't afford to leave right now. Maybe you need to pick up a few skills first. Fine. Give yourself a year, even 2 if that's what it takes... Gotta have a plan. Focus on relationships with people who care bout u and spend whatever free time you can manage working toward something better.

OK, sometimes it's just a bad fit or a communication problem. Give it a few months, have an honest conversation, and see if anything improves. But if you've been dealing with the same nonsense for 6 mo and nothing has changed, what makes you think another 6 months will be different?

The worst thing you can do is complain about your boss for 3 years while doing absolutely nothing to change your situation. I've seen that happen too... People get comfortable being miserable, not good... Build up some savings and keep in touch with people you've worked with. You never know when you'll need another job, and having some $$$ in the bank and a few people you can call makes a difference. Especially when the day comes that you've finally had enough... Like me...

3 years ago I decided to quiet quit and then skate along
I thought that it was only a matter of time before I get fired for taking advantage of the system to the max.
I started preparing for the job hunting phase again as I fully expected to get sacked in the matter of months...

Here I am today, still doing sweet FA with an IPF of 1.2
And by doing sweet FA, I mean promoting absolute slop and waiting for chatgpt to finish doing its thing for 20-25 hour weeks MAX

How is this possible?

How have I not been fired, put on a PIP or even warned verbally?

Seriously, it’s draining and exhausting the commute is adding 3 hours to my day that’s brutally unfair.
When can we start hearing a relaxation on this nonsense and allow employees have some autonomy?
No one hours in FT anymore this is primitive barbaric snd selfish.

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Is Iselin any safer from layoffs and/or toxicity? Asking because I'm at a competitor bank and considering a Director role within the Technology space, since the pay is better, the commute is infinitely better but reading the posts here, it seems its all gloom and doom at WF (which is the same situation my my firm's layoff board)

I took maternity leave and had been back for 6 months and was laid off this time. Not sure if its a coincidence or not but I haven't seen anyone else post about being laid off yet but appearntly it was several.

That’s what management told us, stop talking about RTO and move on.

NO. We won’t stop talking about because you keep changing the rules and making up reasons RTO is beneficial, such as when RTO started, they said it was for security reasons.
That was an obvious lies about data security because all of our data is accessible by remote employees in India. Then they said it was collaboration, well, many of us sit by ourselves and talk to our team members all over the country, we don’t sit next to them.

Then they changed from 11 days a month to now 13 to 15 days a month, and we have to make up dates to be OVER 60 percent quarterly. And then they have the nerve to lie and say nothing has changed. And they said it was retroactive, so most of us came in 11 days and didn’t meet over 60 percent, now we get zero raise and Lower bonuses because of it.

And now they will soon require 8 days total log in time at the office, retroactive , again.
My manager said I was ok to work 6 hours in office and work the rest of the hours at home and avoid the heavy traffic. Now that is no longer ok in a couple of months, worse parts is it’s retroactive, they have the data, just not displayed for us in workday.

Why they continue to treat us salary exempt employees as hourly employees to be monitored to the seconds we are in office? What does this have to do with our job performance??

I think something else is brewing here. Many managers have been unavailable and attending meetings. There doesn't even seem to be a sense of priority on the projects we are working on. I think we've all just become numb to the noise and continue to work until something happens. Happy hump day. I'm taking a 3 hour lunch because no one's around to reprimand me anyway.

I’ve seen people mention more than 6 or 7 hours of activity needed a day but our leadership told us we need to have 8 or more….and that the safe spot is more than 8 hours

That seems like a lot to me. I work 8 hours a day not counting lunch but I’m not sure if I’m even meeting this number since I’m not constantly typing or clicking. So far I have not had any issues but who knows. Sometimes I’m reading through documents or doing required training videos or I need to take a break. Ironically I got an invite to an in person event but how am I supposed to attend when I have to be active on the computer all day? This company is becoming a joke.

Clock in, clock out.

Whats the downside? you get fired? Thats going to happen anyway.

Bring on the NFL model, where players get half the revenue.

I am an SD and we had our monthly sync during which we were told on numerous occasions that no further layoffs have been planned as our metrics are looking better than where we thought we would be. In fact we were told that there would be targeted hiring in fast growing areas within VBG. This AVP has a direct LoS with other SVPs and has previously been right about the Nov and May layoffs. Dont want to say too much as I might dox myself.

Our team is doing activity tracking and we are averaging 7+ hours a day but apparently that’s not enough and we need to be at 8+. So subtract our lunch time, bathroom runs, taking a water break or just a minute where we are not clicking away and we need to be at the office 9+ hours to meet this number. WF is not a tech company and they do not pay us enough for this type of treatment. No wonder people hate it here

I'm this close to divorce because I've become a miserable person to be around, and I'm well aware of that. Not being able to find anything comparable is not helping. I hate my life and I hate this place for what it turned me into.

Looking over the notes on the meeting recap, it said payroll cut off Monday 6:00 p.m.

Does that mean that workers will not be compensated beyond 6:00 p.m. on Mondays?

No word yet on whether accepted or not for EISP, but we're supposed to be off payroll by end of week and many people will have days left that must be used or lost by then.

80% of it I've worked remotely and received promotion.

The other 20%, I still work remotely, I just do it from their designated cubical in downtown trafficville.

I started six months ago and oh my God, I'm already regretting joining, to put it very mildly. Have people been putting up with this for decades? How do you survive?? Or was there a time where the culture was at least somewhat better and employees weren't treated like cr-p all the time?

Any changes ?

Is an extension for a few months possible after one gets the RTO letter? Whom does one go about asking on dire need?

The hardest part isn't one particular layoff anymore. It's never knowing when another one is coming or whether your team will be affected next. People spend so much time worrying about job security that it's difficult to focus on the actual work. That's not a healthy way to spend your working life.

If you've been here for years and you're unhappy, maybe it's time to see what else is out there. Experience doesn't mean you have to spend the rest of your career in the same place. There are places that will make you happy. Go and find them.

I'm tired of not being to enjoy my weekends because I don't know if the following week my livelihood will be taken away from me. I'm tired of always having to think about work because something is always coming. I'm just so tired of this all. I want to work to live, not live to work.

For nearly 30 years, my life was measured in barrels, spreadsheets, and quarterly targets. As an engineer at ExxonMobil, I took immense pride in my work, but the grueling 12-hour workdays and the unspoken culture that "simply doing your job isn't enough" eventually broke me down.
The corporate grind took a massive toll on my body. Decades of sitting in front of monitors and stress-eating desk lunches left me chronically exhausted and sluggish. My cardiovascular endurance was nonexistent; climbing a single flight of stairs to a conference room left me visibly winded. My muscles felt weak and tight from lack of movement, and the numbers on the scale kept creeping up. I realized I was sacrificing my youth and my health for a corporate machine that would replace my job posting before my obituary was even printed.
Six months ago, I finally made the terrifying decision to hand in my resignation. I had no backup corporate savior lined up, just a modest savings account and a desperate need to reclaim my life.
The transformation didn't happen overnight, but once I removed the constant cloud of corporate anxiety, I finally had the mental energy to invest in my physical body.
First, I built back my cardiovascular health. I started with brisk daily walks, which quickly progressed to morning jogs. Today, my resting heart rate has dropped significantly, and I can run a 5K without stopping—a feat that felt completely impossible just a year ago.
Next, I focused on rebuilding my muscle strength. I joined a local gym and committed to a consistent resistance training program. Trading long hours of typing for lifting weights rebuilt the functional strength I had lost to a sedentary lifestyle. My chronic lower back pain vanished, my posture improved, and I feel physically stronger and more capable in my 30s than I did in my 20s.
Combined with meal prepping nutrient-dense foods instead of relying on fast-food fuel injections, the physical work paid off. To date, I have lost 25 pounds of pure stress-weight, replacing body fat with lean muscle.
Leaving a stable, high-paying role at a global giant like Exxon was the scariest thing I have ever done, but it taught me an invaluable lesson. No salary or corporate prestige is worth your physical well-being. Today, I am working in an environment that actually respects human limits. I am finally free, full of energy, and living proof that there is life—and vibrant health—after the corporate grind.

Dst was always a swestshop. In the 1980s DST stood for "don't stay there". Managers gave tiny raises, people were paid 30% less than market average pay and christmas bonuses for college educated staff in positions of great responsibility was a $25 paper gift card to the plaza, where all merchandise was grossly overpriced. You might be able to buy 1 book or a pair of stock with it

How bad would it be for me professionally if I just say I quit and walk out? I really, really want to do just that.

If there aren't enough people to do the work anymore, that doesn't mean you have to become two employees. Do your job at a sustainable pace and let management deal with the newly created, layoffs-related staffing problem.

Heard senior leadership is fed up and RTO is moving to 8x5pm Mon-Fri at your assigned site. This allows management 100% visibility into arrival time and departure time. The policy will be simplified to 8x5x5 to ensure clarity

In my manager is remote, and I just stopped going in and was working from home, how long until they get the reporting?

Anyone have stories of how they’ve successfully strong armed the company, even if only briefly?

We all know the company will do extraordinary things for the chosen few. I have a neighbor who was offered 3x his salary to defer retirement by one year.

Just wondering if there are stories of rare situations where an individual employee has had enough leverage to strongarm the company.

Honestly, who cares about long term career at this place anymore. Do what the management does: take as much as you can RN.

Listen there is not much to worry about when it comes to layoffs if you’re doing your job, and doing it well!
If you’re a bottom then yeah you’re probably on the chopping block of your fan has to do layoffs.

Not all but the majority bottoms are those who we all have to pick the slack up for anyways. Not saying there isn’t the exception to the rule here and there but it’s far and few between. Most employees in the bottom are there for a reason. For example the infamous IE we’ve seen in this thread who does nothing but TikTok’s all night, does what we need last minute causing pile ups … if you’re like this you can expect to be cut if they need to pinch numbers. Otherwise you guys are good

resigned today. Best. Feeling. Ever. to be out of this absolute mess. Out of textbooks. No more professors and stupid bookstores and tech that doesn’t work.

A K-shaped corporate economy is a situation where people experience different economic outcomes. Picture the letter K. The CEO and executives at the top move upward growing wealth, stock gains, and increasing income. At the same time, employees affected by layoffs and reductions move downward — struggling with living costs, debt, unemployment, and dwindling savings while paying bills with no income.

and he said, I don't know but I know that WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.

I know what year 2 of the EH's leadership was like. I don't know what he will do in year 3 but if he is still with the company on year 4 then I know we will be working on a big tent with electricity produced by a Caterpillar generator.

really? Another distraction from doing the primary job of running the firm. Never has there been a MP more focused on playing chess for their own next act than focusing on the job at hand.

Often when there are posts made about layoffs at CDW here, there are many sellers who comment saying that the roles weren’t needed anyway, that they were a waste of money at the company, and even that the jobs weren’t real. As someone who was laid off and was supporting sales staff, it doesn’t feel great being told that my job wasn’t real (especially when it was a hassle to get half of my sellers to actually sell, but that’s another story for another day).

If you’re not a seller, how are layoffs impacting you/how have layoffs impacted you?