#careergrowth

It's been four years. How have you fared? Better or worse?

For me, it has worked out better than I expected. It turned out that I didn't have to go back to work because of some luck with the performance of the portfolio. Spend most of my time relaxing but just started volunteering.

Anyone else keep applying for internal jobs and not even getting an interview when you are qualified for the job?

Hey guys I noticed that there are a lot of complaints about Fidelity on this page. I currently have an offer from Fidelity for the LEAP Software program but I also have an offer from Citi bank and am interviewing for USAA. Im hearing about constant layoffs as well as having to go to the office 5 days a week and there not being enough space for parking or sitting. But it seems like fidelity has the best upward mobility and would be a good place to start my career

Personally, I am 3+ years into coasting as Cisco. I work maybe 15 hour weeks prompting AI & making up nonsense to make myself look busy, and just abuse the sh-t out of the work from home policy or coffee badge into the office and sit around watching YouTube videos all day.

Best part, I've gotten 2 medium raises and a promotion. Never even remotely close to being put on a PIP. Life is great, really my ideal way out of here is winning the LR lottery.

Tell me your story about your finesse

Is it more likely that I'm getting promoted or fired?

Is there still CL potential? What’s the connection with Career Orientation?

Just left Databricks and jumped over to Teradata… and yeah, I’m already loving it.
Honestly? Excellent place to work. The people are solid, the vibe is good, and it just feels right. If you’re looking for somewhere that actually treats you well and lets you do interesting stuff, this is the place to be.
Glad I made the move.

Are pay raises only set by higher ups? Or can your direct manager ask HR to increase your pay?

Just saying

You all actually thought you had a long-term career in the oil industry and with this company. Oh, well.

I'm serious, if you can find a job anywhere else, do it. At NCR, being good at your job makes you a threat. Everybody will see you as competition, and any chance of advancement will vanish. You'll end up working for someone who, in any sane organization, would be your assistant. It's a system designed to crush ambition.

If you're too good at your job, they'll never move you up. Do enough to stay safe. That's how you ensure you have a career here.

For too long, they had layers on top of layers of reporting lines for the ‘CISO’ that made no sense. His title wasn’t even a CISO but a VP, that reports to a VP that reports to a VP. That made no sense. Now, hes the CISO of a company that will see his value.

Should I take a role in Uncon? I hear ranking is brutal there. Any tips to survive / thrive?

I’m now 43 and still @ CL28…no promotion last 5yrs. Any chance I can make Exec? Is it worth the effort? If i get E/O next 10yrs, can i make it to Exec?

Any other advice besides work hard and build a network to advance in this Company?

What amazes me is that interns with no experience are being given preference over people with actual work experience in different parts of the business for roles in various areas like asset management, risk, etc.

So even if someone doesn’t have experience in the area and have been at Fidelity for 5 years, they would rather hire an intern with no experience for a role in that area. You can’t easily move around here.

There are a lot of jobs out there and employers looking for people. Make the chanage. You will be glad you did.

I just accepted a new role that starts on 08/24. If Verizon walks me out the day I resign (Monday), that actually works perfectly for my timeline. But if I give notice (I don't want to burn any bridges) and they keep me the full two weeks, I'll need to negotiate my start date, which is far from ideal since they specified how much they need to fill that role ASAP. What's been everyone else's experience lately? Do they keep you or let you go immediately?

Is it smart to accept it?

I've seen people move to positions with more money and more prestige, and most regretted it because in the end, it cost them their families. Fiserv is not kind to anybody, and the higher you are (outside of the C-suite, of course) the more you're expected to do. I'd rather have my time than their paycheck.

I'm not sure why, but remote jobs have started popping up in my feed again, and not bad ones. I'm tempted to start applying, if I can get the courage. The devil I know still seems better than the devil I don't, but I miss WFH so much that it could push me to go for it.

Her manager asking my friend to move to office to get promotion. She is currently remote.

does it worth relocation?

Confirmed at a Verizon Connect all hands by HR. Level up is coming in November.

So hopefully this means a slow down on the layoff front at least for a time.

Stop sitting around and letting a company steal your peace.

Update your résumé. Network. Start looking. Don’t wait for a company to value you when their actions show they don’t.

I recently resigned from UHC after nearly 30 years. After decades of dedication, there was no “thank you” or “job well done”—just “go ahead and sign out; we’ll pay you for your two weeks.”

I found a fully remote job making more money than I was after nearly 30 years. That taught me something: your job is not your life, and your employer does not own your peace.

If you’re miserable, stressed, or sacrificing your health for a company that doesn’t appreciate you, start making your exit plan.

Stop being their puppet on a string. Take control of your life back. Your peace, health, and happiness are worth more

If you're good at your job you have nothing to worry about. If you're not, then well... start updating that resume my subnormal friends

Getting laid off from Truist was the best thing that happened to me. It just took time to see it.

Complain and stay miserable. Grind and get nothing. Build skills and leave. Choose wisely.

Been here for six years, top performer, got zero promotions. "Promotion coming" has been a chorus I've been hearing almost weekly for the past three years. And yet here I am, still waiting. If you want to grow your career, make sure to stay away as far as you can from Cigna.

I've had years of promises, and zero results. I'm tired of all the lies and watching incompetent people get ahead.

Just one more opportunity to AEOI please! - Mike, ELT and HR are you listening? If most of us knew how bad it was going to be we would have put our hands up right away. Some of us need the cushion before making our next move.

I honestly don’t know what to expect at this point. Centene has been great to me, and I can genuinely say that working remotely here has given me the absolute best work/life balance I’ve ever had with a company.

I’ve been able to raise my twins, be present for them, and navigate motherhood without a large village of support, while still making sure my career and work remained a priority. That kind of flexibility has meant more to me than I can really put into words.

If this is it and it’s time for me to move on, I’ll walk away perfectly fine. I’ll always be grateful for what Centene has allowed me to do, not just professionally, but personally. Whatever happens next, I know I’ll be okay. ❤️

It is also worth considering the possibility of an involuntary exit in your calculus of exit math and taking a new job. I was within 5 years of full pension when I got the surprise news. About two years earlier I did the math and turned down an outside opportunity because I thought the risk was non-existent. That was after negotiating the gap as small as possible. Companies change, leaders change, you aren’t in full control. Be realistic. The trajectory of Exxon is clear. Act accordingly.

Story by Melody Wilding, Contributor
August 9

Families pass down all kinds of useful ideas, like "be honest" and "treat others well."

But as the author of "Managing Up" and an executive coach to leaders at top organizations like Google, Amazon, NATO and more, I've seen how well-intentioned career advice absorbed from a young age can work against you.

None of these "rules" came from a bad place. They're simply a reflection of a more stable work world that rewarded loyalty. But that world no longer exists.

Here are five ideas that may have been drilled into you growing up that could sabotage your success — and what to do instead.

1. 'Don't get too big for your britches'
Staying humble is crucial to some extent. Nobody wants to work with a colleague who steals credit for everything. Plus, listening to others before you assert yourself can prevent major disagreements.

Take modesty too far, though, and you become invisible. To avoid coming off as big-headed, you may default to saying "Oh, it was all a team effort," even when your contributions were key. Or maybe you skip sharing a win because it feels like bragging.

But leaders aren't mind readers. They'll tap the person whose accomplishments they see, and who speaks up and makes it clear they want in on a certain project.

What to do instead: In your next one-on-one with your boss, ask what's coming down the pike in the next quarter. Then offer yourself as a resource, perhaps to spearhead meetings or put together a proposal. This move creates a win-win: You're solving a problem for your leader while also earning exposure.

2. 'Always be grateful for the opportunity'
You might've heard this in statements like "Just be grateful you have a job" or "You're lucky to be there." It's easy to convince yourself this logic is 100% true all the time as layoffs surge and more people in your life struggle to find work.

But the flip side is that you start treating the bare minimum as generous. You might accept a lower title or salary because asking for more seems greedy, while your less-experienced colleague earns more. Or you might stay at a job you dislike out of fear.

Gratitude and self-advocacy can co-exist. You deserve to be compensated for the value you bring.

What to do instead: Quit communicating your work in terms of tasks and focus on outcomes instead. You can point to the results you're getting and express thanks for the opportunity at the same time.

For example, instead of "I coordinated with two departments," try: "It was great having the chance to work across sales and engineering. With the new feature request process, I was able to unlock $100,000 in revenue for the company."

3. 'Just keep the peace'
Your parents may have intended to shield you from conflict and ensure you had plenty of positive work relationships with this message. But "keeping the peace" can morph into people-pleasing, especially for women. You might end up stuffing down your opinions or being overly accommodating so others feel comfortable.

The trouble is that the longer you stay quiet, the more entrenched bad ideas and behavior become. Your excessive agreeableness may also be interpreted by decision-makers as lacking conviction, preventing you from getting promoted.

Hard conversations are where your credibility is built. People respect those who can push back on an idea without making it personal.

What to do instead: Learning to diplomatically speak your mind is non-negotiable if you want to be seen as leadership material. And you can do it without burning bridges.

Try resetting a boundary. If you've been shouldering a process that should belong to a peer, for instance, you might say, "While I can't own this beginning to end, I'll put together full documentation for your team to take it over."

4. 'Do your job well and everything else will fall into place'
When your parents were rising through the ranks, mastering your craft may have been enough to succeed. That's changed. You still need excellent technical skills, but talent on its own won't distinguish you from your peers.

The highest performers know that expertise must be paired with political savvy. You have to consistently assess: Who knows my work, and how much do they trust me?

What to do instead: Turn a group of neutral colleagues into allies invested in your growth. Instead of bullishly pushing through an idea, get key decision-makers' input to shape it. Ask them to fill out a survey, comment on a draft plan, or make introductions. They'll feel greater ownership in the final product, and greater investment in you.

5. 'Figure it out yourself'
If the belief that self-reliance means survival instilled initiative in you, then you're probably resourceful and accountable.

But if you internalize this advice to mean that asking for help equals weakness, you'll burn out trying to solve everything solo. Your reliability can eventually stall your career growth, too: Leadership can't promote you because nobody can replace you.

What to do instead: When you need a hand, ask for it in a way that makes your effort visible: "After researching, I've narrowed the options down to X and Y. My hunch is X is better because [your reasoning]. What's your take?"

And when someone brings you a problem, ask questions before immediately jumping to fix it yourself, like "What have you tried so far?" or "What options are you considering?" This builds their capability and confidence, rather than their dependence on you.

Melody Wilding, LMSW is an executive coach, human behavior professor, and author of "Managing Up: How to Get What You Need from the People in Charge."

Does the fact that you could go all out, work a ton, crush all your goals and then some, and still be laid off in the spring motivate you to work harder?

I was assigned Centene university learning on Friday , that is due on 9/11. Could this be a good sign? Or am I just hoping for no reason.

How long can someone stay stuck at the same management level? This clown has been in his role for almost four years and has been ranking the team for all four cycles. (made his gang). I’ve heard that staying more than three years at the same level is bad for their career.

Are execs truly happy or miserable? Ranking must be brutal.

Is the risk higher for execs not to make it to retirement eligible (ie 55)?

What’s the latest CL promotion Guide?
I know it’s complicated, but looking for something simple….like below:

Avg OWD = 1yrs
Avg Outstanding = 2yrs
Avg Excellent = 4yrs
Avg V Good = 8yrs
Avg Good = 16yrs
Avg NI = 30yrs

Thanks for any useful info.