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12 Brutal Career Truths

1. Your Potential Means Nothing
↳ Results speak louder than capabilities
↳ "I could have" doesn't pay bills
→ Start delivering before someone asks

2. Loyalty Won't Save You
↳ Companies are loyal to profits, not people
↳ Your growth is your responsibility
→ Always have a Plan B ready

3. Being Good Isn't Good Enough
↳ Excellence is the new baseline
↳ Average performers get average lives
→ Identify your unique edge and sharpen it

4. No One Will Hand You Success
↳ Mentors guide, but won't carry you
↳ Your career is your business
→ Stop waiting, start creating opportunities

5. Comfort Is Career Death
↳ If you're not uncomfortable, you're not growing
↳ Easy today = obsolete tomorrow
→ Seek the tasks everyone else avoids

6. Politics Matter More Than Performance
↳ Great work without visibility is wasted work
↳ Relationships amplify results
→ Master the art of showcasing impact

7. Time Choices = Career Outcomes
↳ Every 'yes' is a 'no' to something else
↳ Poor boundaries ki-l high performers
→ Master the art of strategic declining

8. Feedback Is A Gift (Even When It Hurts)
↳ Criticism shapes champions
↳ Defensive people stay stuck
→ Seek tough feedback early and often

9. Skills Have Expiration Dates
↳ What got you here won't get you there
↳ Industry demands evolve rapidly
→ Stay current or become irrelevant

10. Your Network Is Your Net Worth
↳ Relationships are your career currency
↳ Tomorrow's opportunities come from today's connections
→ Invest in people before you need them

11. Your Attitude Eclipses Your Aptitude
↳ Difficult geniuses get fired
↳ Pleasant performers get promoted
→ Choose your battles wisely

12. There Are No Guarantees
↳ Security is an illusion
↳ Change is the only constant
→ Build adaptability as your core strength


Laid Off - What are you doing about Insurance? NEED ADVICE

Those of you laid off, what are you doing for Medical Insurance?

With the healthcare.gov marketplace prices having gone up significantly, as well as COBRA cost on the individual end's increasing - what are you doing for insurance / paying a month for Medical Insurance?

Lowest monthly premium on healthcare.gov is $200 or so higher than COBRA in my case, so i guess COBRA is the way to go in my case while severance is still being paid.

COBRA is tough though, if you cancel the month prior to severance ending to avoid paying for COBRA at full price and you are not in the Enrollment Period - you go without insurance for a short time until you can enroll?

What a joke the whole concept is honestly. Getting the shaft from multiple angles so wondering if anyone has thought this through.

Health share? Insurance less? Finding any job with benefits to avoid paying full premiums for medical insurance?

Let's hear your options all you titans of the Healthcare industry!!!


Be aware of At&T Business hiring practices. R2B and B2B

If you are jumping ship to AT&T, they are asking for 30/60/90 day plan which includes your major accounts, stakeholders, and most wanted accounts. Do not give up your sensitive information and easily hand them your sources. They are just farming the intel from your market and most likely won’t hire you. So, if they are abusing you from the beginning guard yourself by being vague and do not include actual contact info of stakeholders. Like companies they might not know about.


The way I see things...

I worked as a developer in the Fusion Middleware area, first on the on-premise tools and later on Oracle Cloud.

My experience at Oracle was extremely negative. I believe a large part of that was because I am female, honest, and a highly competent developer.

Those qualities were not valued in Oracle development. Let me address each of them individually.

Female - There were no female managers or architects in the area where I worked. Management was dominated by Indian men from a culture where women are expected to be subordinate to men, and in my experience that attitude showed clearly. I worked for multiple managers who used the same kinds of tactics. They sabotaged demos I was giving by providing incorrect conference numbers, setting me up to demo on systems with bad network settings that caused slow screen updates, telling me to prepare slides for a two-hour session and then suddenly saying I only had one hour while pretending surprise that I had created slides because I had been instructed to do so. I was also once paired with another manager’s aggressive subordinate, who went first and then claimed I was demonstrating something different from what I had been told, making me appear unprepared.

I was undermined in many other ways as well. I was restricted in what I could work on, excluded from status meetings, denied information, given incorrect information, and subjected to every kind of obstruction imaginable.

Not everyone behaved this way, but enough men did that it became impossible to function normally. I was constantly forced into a defensive position. Although there were a couple of senior managers above me who supported me, my direct managers did not, and they had enough control to make it appear that I was the problem when I was not.

There were a few women I interacted with. Some, like me, were honestly trying to do their jobs. But one woman in marketing appeared to believe it was in her interest to undermine me with the men, and another woman who was very involved with one manager also helped set me up at one point. Because of that, I eventually felt I could not even trust the other women at the company.

Before Oracle, I had been a very successful developer at other companies and had received awards for my work. Oracle has serious cultural problems, and if you are a female developer, I would advise leaving the company. There is a much better life outside of it.

Honest - The managers were, in my opinion, largely incompetent. They were deeply insecure, and even the slightest sign of initiative beyond what they explicitly directed was treated as a threat. From what I observed, this was true of nearly every manager I encountered. They were paranoid, dysfunctional, and operating inside an equally dysfunctional environment. Managers would temporarily align with one another to sabotage employees or other managers they wanted to target. It genuinely seemed like they enjoyed doing this, and that much of their professional world revolved around schemes to damage someone else’s reputation or career.

By the end, I felt as though I was working inside an organized crime operation. The sabotage never stopped. One manager cultivated loyal enforcers who would do whatever he wanted to anyone he targeted. Unfortunately, I ended up under this truly toxic individual. Oracle moves developers around like interchangeable parts, and you often have no control over who you work for. This manager made s-xual comments toward me and treated me in a degrading way. He isolated me from others in the group and refused to assign meaningful work. In my opinion, he was deeply disturbed and manipulative.

Later, he worked with another manager and a woman connected to that manager to isolate me further and pressure me into writing a new application they intended to take credit for themselves.

There is no place for honesty at Oracle. If you want to be a thug and enjoy the idea of operating inside something that feels like a mafia structure, then Oracle may suit you. Honesty will not help you succeed there.

Extremely Competent Developer - If you are a strong developer who wants to build meaningful products and do real engineering work, Oracle is not the right place. I was an excellent developer. Earlier in my career, there were times when my abilities were questioned because I was female, but I was always able to prove myself and earn the trust of the men around me through competence and results.

At Oracle, competence was not appreciated. The managers I worked with valued loyalty above all else, and the people most loyal to management were often the least capable technically. They protected their jobs by flattering managers, attacking other developers, and helping management manipulate or undermine people within the company.

I was promoted once while I was there, but I believe that only happened because of intervention from a senior manager above me. Even while I had support at higher levels, the manager directly above me continued sabotaging me constantly.

I would have left earlier, but I had reasons for staying, so I continued trying to demonstrate what I could do, just as I had at previous companies. None of it mattered. Management remained determined to harass me regardless of my abilities.

I also saw other highly competent developers, including men, targeted in many of the same ways. My impression was that management feared capable developers because they themselves were incompetent, insecure, and uncomfortable with real technical discussions about products or code.

One important thing to understand is that none of this was obvious at first. The managers were skilled at hiding what they were doing until you started paying very close attention. They always had plausible explanations ready, and because you want to be cooperative and professional, you initially accept those explanations and move on.

For a long time, I had an application that I mostly worked on independently, and that insulated me somewhat.

My competence also allowed me to survive there longer than many people would have. My first manager gave me increasingly difficult assignments. Initially, I believed that meant he trusted my abilities. Later, I realized he was escalating the difficulty in hopes that I would fail. I believe he wanted to point to the “incompetent woman” and say, “See, she couldn’t handle the work.” But that never happened because I successfully completed every assignment I was given.

It is a deeply unhealthy place. If you dislike women, will blindly obey your manager, including sabotaging coworkers, and especially if you enjoy attacking people and playing dirty tricks, Oracle may be the place for you.

If you actually want to do real engineering work, almost anywhere else would be better.


Affected folks - those laid off since April 2025 - Have you found new jobs?

Has anyone forced out or currently training their replacements have any luck finding a new job? Can you share any tips? Did that "job search assistance" they offer help at all? I read that you get taxed in your severance for that "benefit". If it is useless can we opt out so as not to pay taxes on that?

Please keep this on topic and don't have this thread devolve into "the usual". This is for job hunting information only.


Kaskida Project. A world class boondoggle?

Hearing some great intel and insights that Kaskida is being challenged by Meg for potentially not meeting economic and technical hurdles…
Please share your insights on this complex project that was rammed into FID by Murray’s go team…What does Elliot Management think about their capital6 deployed and possibly destroyed? When the the technical class challenges sanctioning


Future and Recommendation for Youth

My three kids are all in high school right now, my oldest son and his two younger sisters, all just a year apart. He’s getting ready to pack up for college here soon, it’s hitting me hard. For the longest time, I thought I knew exactly how to guide him. I figured a solid field like software engineering or business was the way to go. But looking at what’s happening at my own job and this company, and seeing the entire office now Indian and all this AI tech... I'm not sure what to suggest. At the same time, I’m terrified of them just picking a lib arts major, drowning in student loans, and ending up without a job. We learned that lesson the hard way. My wife went to an Ivy League for a degree that took us years to pay off with no return(never do it). I love my kids more than anything. They have so much life in them. It breaks my heart to imagine them ending up in some WF type office, surrounded by the exhausted, lifeless faces I see every day, working for a evil CEO who doesn't care about them at all. I want them to be happy with their life.


Layoff Survival Fund

Survived this round. There will be more rounds.

Assuming that I have about 7 years of experience, late 30s, mid 200K total comp, wife is not working, have a toddler. No debt/mortgage (renting in So Bay). Working in sales.

Is there a rule of thumb for how much should someone like me have to have saved to hedge layoff risk?


How we work

If your EMG is talking about “how we work” and is having your leader write out each of your job duties and what it entails, that is the first step in deciding who gets their 60 days notice. Word of advice, make sure you let your leader know EVERYTHING you do, even if it seems small and non interesting, the more the better.


I feel like we are drowning in advisors

Everyone has an opinion and a certificate on the wall, but nobody seems to know how to actually run anything anymore. Where is the management that has done the job before and can make a call? Because I am not seeing it. What I see is vague suggestions, meetings that end with no clear decision, and then people just doing whatever they think is right. Give me a real leader over a room full of advisors any day.


Law firms that have won cases against U.S. Bank?

Let’s come together as one community here and post a list of real lawsuits won against U.S. Bank. Employment Discrimination Retaliation Consumer or anything else as long as it has to do with U.S. Bank. Let’s compile a list here with links and anything else that is helpful.

Bonus points for recent/ongoing lawsuits.


Stop being someone worth letting go of.

None of us were ever promised or even hinted at being given any form of loyalty. You were PAID to do a JOB.. Given money in exchange for your time and services, with the expectation of providing a predetermined outcome to the organization.

You can (and SHOULD) be let go of at any time and place that they see fit. If the organization decides that your services are no longer beneficial or in THEIR best interest (not your best interest), then letting you go is the ONLY move they can or should make. Be HAPPY and GRATEFUL that they were so GENEROUS, they went above and beyond the AGREED upon contractual obligations by providing you with EXTRA monetary compensation and even in offering post-employment transitional support.. things that do not benefit them in any capacity. Instead, these things actually create unnecessary costs and responsibilities, per each person that gets let go, just to “help” the same people that end up shiing all over it. They dont owe you anything that you didnt already agree to, stop being so annoying and bihing about being dropped. They calculated that youre role was dead weight, or was costing them more than it was providing. Emotions arent at play here.

Sorry, I had to get this off, some of yall are pathetic. Confidently acting like a teenage ex girlfriend that has abandonment issues and extreme chemical imbalances in the brain. You were never given or told anything to incite a reasonable expectation of loyalty, it has always been their money for your time and services. Be happy they did more than they were required to, and go find somewhere that you can actually provide value with your expertise.. instead of soaking up all the pitty party bath water in an online forum. This is the stuff that employers look for in someone to tell them NOT to hire you.


If you are RIF'd and money tight do this right away!

This isn't a post about rumors or Optum info, it's a post for folks that are hit by RIFs and are tight on funds. Being RIF'd is traumatic for many and in the storm one's focus could be clouded. If your money is tight and you contribute to the 401k you may want to consider immediately dropping your contribution to 0% or 1%, This will ensure your last paycheck is higher by slightly less than the amount you contribute (your tax burden will increase slightly), and even more importantly your severance check will not have whatever percentage deducted from it. Just a friendly tip for the folks get caught in the "axe the onshore web" to increase the take home.


Post on Glassdoor

If you are disappointed with Fidelity then don't limit your posts to a hidden forum like TheLayoff. Go to Glassdoor or other more public review sites and share your experiences there. Yes Fidelity can and does game the system but even a few negative reviews can help someone avoid a mistake and maybe bring the score closer to where it belongs.


What is the legal definition of a trade secret? There Are Very Few Trade Secrets in the Energy Industry.

A trade secret is legally defined as confidential business information that gains economic value from not being generally known and is protected through reasonable efforts to keep it secret. In U.S. law, this definition is most clearly articulated in 18 U.S.C. § 1839, part of the Defend Trade Secrets Act (DTSA).

📘 Core Legal Elements of a Trade Secret
Under federal law, information qualifies as a trade secret if it meets all three of these requirements:

Secrecy — The information is not generally known or readily ascertainable through proper means by others who could benefit from it.

Economic value — The information has actual or potential economic value because it is secret. Competitors would gain an advantage if they obtained it.

Reasonable measures — The owner takes reasonable steps to maintain its secrecy (e.g., NDAs, access controls, secure storage).

If any one of these elements' stops being true, the information loses trade secret protection.

🧩 What Counts as a Trade Secret?
Trade secrets can include virtually any type of business, technical, or scientific information, such as:

Formulas (e.g., beverage recipes)

Processes or manufacturing methods

Algorithms

Customer lists

Designs or prototypes

Negative know‑how (failed experiments that reveal what doesn’t work)

The law covers both tangible and intangible information, regardless of how it is stored.

🏛️ Authoritative Legal Definition (DTSA)
Under 18 U.S.C. § 1839(3), a trade secret includes “all forms and types of financial, business, scientific, technical, economic, or engineering information… if (A) the owner has taken reasonable measures to keep such information secret; and (B) the information derives independent economic value… from not being generally known.”


Does Anyone Subscribe to Ignites Newsletter?

I started with Fido when Reagan was president, now I'm retired. I've seen how they have been able to keep bad news out of the media or at least they control the narrative. Ignites is a great newsletter for the financial industry that sometimes has news before it breaks. I signed up for free using my company email when I worked there.