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Career advice

I'm a current wells fargo employee within risk in Minneapolis who is looking to jump the stagecoach. The amount of layoffs, lack of salary increases, and overall team morale is getting to be too much.

Is US bank worth looking at or is it really bad there as well?


Left after 10 years

After 10 years with UHC I finally called it quits over a month ago. It's been the most relieving feeling I have ever felt, seriously no lie! The constant changes, being chastised by a big headed manager who did not take accountability for her own faults, and exceeding expectations on MAP review but never reaping the benefits from it. The job that I am at now I make 1.20 less an hour but still make more, make it make sense...where was all my money going. Also my health insurance is so much cheaper and better, I never understood that? Run don't walk if you can, find something that works better for you and your family and also better for you financially.


Cigna Career Openings in India vs US

https://cigna.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/cignacareers/?Location_Country=c4f78be1a8f14da0ab49ce1162348a5e

look at the list of people they need in India. if that's your current role then you might want to start writing to your senator, to Trum, etc and let them know about this. because once you get laid off, you will have to sign something saying you can't retaliate, etc, if you want your severance.


My Life After Layoff; Building Something New

I was laid off at USB over a year ago. After 10 years of service working from home, it all ended with a 1 minute and 34 second phone call. For weeks I kept Googling “US Bank layoffs” just to feel like I wasn’t alone. The searches always brought me here to The Layoff, and amidst the rants and raves, I never felt alone (and I still visit every week).

The months that followed were rough. Interviews went nowhere, and applications disappeared into a black hole. In May I finally landed a role with another bank. Life has been good since, but working full-time in an office created new challenges: endless politics, meaningless small talk, and a cubicle that feels like a creative prison.

A couple months ago, while taking a juicy dump on the executive floor (it just feels so right), I had an idea: A platform where current and former employees can anonymously share stories about the good, bad, and ugly moments inside their companies. I call it WorkWhisper. Right now, it’s a webapp, but I plan to expand to iOS/Android if it grows.

Ultimately, I'm convinced that my life will continue and end inside of a cubicle (and face more layoff scares), but if what I was inspired to build helps a few people voice their feelings, then I'm happy. I hope this doesn't come across as an inauthentic way to promote myself, that wasn't the intention. I just wanted to share my journey about life after layoff at USB, and the good that came out of it. If you’d like to check it out, visit www.TheWorkWhisper.com and share a work moment... the uglier the better ;)


Getting a new job?

How does it work for getting a new job? My last day at Verizon is in February. I don't want to wait until February to start looking I want to be able to look and possibly get a job. But if that happens before February do I have to tell Verizon? What is the ruling around this?

I have seen so many people on LinkedIn post that there in the market for a job and I kind of want to do the same thing but I don't want to jeopardize my severance.


Consolidating info across multiple groups

Sorry that were all here again trying to figure out how these decisions are being made. Ive been here 20+ years, worked for a lot of leaders at the top (some currently still there) and without giving out too many details -- unfortunately this is far too common in the tech industry. My peers and I have survived some major ones since 2015-- (some were impacted, relo'd, VSP, Rif'd --lots of great talent that was lost in the last decade) This happens pretty routine with some being larger when we changed leaders/strategy since the days of Lowell McCadams... Anyways, I've had a couple of discussions with several groups and take this comment as an educated guess (some claim they heard this from some decision makers) and if it helps you predict your outcome so that you can decide on next steps, then great-- but also remember that at this point-- all those decisions have already been made so "try" not to let this consume you (I know much easier said than done!) but just trust that you can't change that outcome so hopefully you can make peace with whatever happens from now until Thursday. That being said here's what I've heard

  1. If you were asked to work from home this week -- you may be impacted -- this makes sense as to try and not have a huge emotionally charged situation happen in office on Thursday-- it may impact you or your overall group

  2. Band 5 and up were suppose to be notified today, Band 6 (ADs) notified tomorrow, and the rest on Thursday --- Seems that some people are notified today so this seems to be likely as well

  3. There will be guidance on who is rif'd to prevent law suits. It wont be random or get rid of x people, it most likely will be based on the following - Anyone on a performance PIP or write up, anyone tagged as "home based" and not near an office location (may be department specific) --- Everyone knows that theres a push for minimum 3 days in the office and BAU prior to covid... so if you moved, or aren't near an office then they may offer you the choice to move but with the interest rate etc. this option may not be likely for most-- *again this make sense just based on the direction of employees being hybrid or in office preferred. Not to say no departments/jobs can work from home, but that being the norm will change to the exception --FYI this is 14,500 emps alone across the enterprise (I have the exact number but don't need more people poking around how I know that!)

  4. no Brainer- redundancy will be eliminated-- And for consumer it will start with the Sales leaders hierarchy-- This is not new folks, it will mean Indirect/Retail Market leaders will be consolidated starting on the sales side (heard this went from 6 to 4 today, but I haven't confirmed and someone from CSO told me this, but haven't checked so if someone can verify here thanks)----> which means DMs/managers,reps, store closures or plans to convert those to indirect, then their support teams will be consolidated which are field ops, field enablement, training, merch, HR, talent acquisition etc) and marketing groups that got beefed up again will get consolidated **more on this on #5, but this is also not a new way to make these decisions so it overall makes sense. When Krista left and Market leaders were stood up-- they just followed suit generally to the prior markets -- but we had a larger hierarch of AREA and consolidating it from 6-4 MPs make sense to do the same task with less people and just spread the out more.

5.) this one is a little bit more specific/niche to department/job function that's tied to the consolidating of Sales MPs --- this is general educated guess so it may be completely off-- but there's always been a move to group Retail and Indirect together in one umbrella-- which started even back in the days when Kevin was here before he came back. -- SO again not a new way to "consolidate" this means that strategy and operations needs to align-- which typically means Finance supports enterprise budget/data and these are your aggregated info/data folks (some consolidation may happen here also) but generally they don't support a particularly niche but support enterprise-- so everyone uses their info since thats what the leaders get, then you get the folks below them that take their info and break it down to dashboards and data, analysis for leaders tasked with managing people's performance/KPI and metrics -- these are probably your GTS folks, developers that get a jira, data scientist, data visualization, business intelligence roles (think MeTREX, tableau dashboards etc), groups managing resources that are EDW based, GCP developers etc-- (again may get touched but depends if theres overlap and redundancies---- )
But then theres other "rouge" reporting/strategy groups that do similar roles/functions but are either niche, or specific to a group--- back in the days, this would be your region reporting folks not in a finance umbrella or reporting folks that are with non/reporting titles and are in none data groups--- Making the choice on how to consolidate this will probably entail more than general guidance-- (back then it was streamlining titles, departments, or number of employees a manager has etc.) but if you're supporting more of a niche- then it may not align with overall strategy so you may also be impacted. This is probably the most vague--- but if you think Finance is the law with the numbers, then there are groups that support that that under that umbrella-- the further you get away from finance and move into supporting data/ops specific to a leader then this is most likely unnecessary redundancy--- (formatting colors, creating specific market reports etc) <<--- again this is speculation but in the past has been pretty common way to reduce headcount. Yes, a leader may want the report to look this way, and they dont want to go to 2 dashboards to get what's being consolidated for them, but this is now a nice to have and not a necessity

6.) lastly, this might be the main/first wave ,but most likely once the dust settles there will be further refinement in 2026--- Q1 to determine what is redundant or no longer needed. This could also be when they take salary into consideration (which would be terrible since I'm at the upper end of my band) but from what I heard Salary at this point may not be the main criteria but may be used later since most likely it's not just related to "bodies" being reduced, but savings in overall cost.

That being said-- feel free to chime in if you heard similar things... Having gone through so many of these and lost countless talented coworkers (most went to FAANG companies or other major tech ones!) one thing about Verizon-- if you've been here long enough-- then you are most likely highly skilled, trained and able to transfer those skills to multiple industries so if you are impacted-- I'm hopeful that your experience will be appreciated in other industries and you will eventually land somewhere. But it doesn't get any easier-- there's some really amazing talented folks that are always impacted by this and survivors remorse is also very real. A lot of us in 2015, even though we made it, still felt a heavy burden seeing our friends/co-workers be impacted. I know this isn't saying much-- but having personally worked with Kevin (and NO I am not a Kevin stand) from what I know he is a good guy and I don't think at least for him at his level this decision is easy and I also know some of the people that work under him and the ones I do know, in the past this has weighed heavily on them. I don't have much of an opinion on Dan but whats right for the investors may not always be great for the work culture but it's something thats gotta be done and for better or worse it happens in all tech industries-- so if this is not something you want to be in year after year maybe use your severance to decide what you want for yourself career wise next time --

Good luck everyone and hopefully I will see some of you on the other side of this!


***Verizon Layoff Reality Check (Worthwhile Read)****

Unfortunately, a lot of people who will end up impacted by Verizon layoffs and start their job search in earnest are in for a terribly unpleasant surprise, even shock!

  1. Working at Verizon doesn't automatically qualify you for a great new gig. It's corporate work that relies on a system within which many people are involved to generate the final output.

  2. Verizon's reputation in the external world is not as great as you might think.

  3. Verizon resume accomplishments don't mean much to people outside Telecom.

  4. Telecom Industry hiring is slowing.

  5. The New Jersey employment market will be flooded with people with similar skill sets making it hard to differentiate yourself from ~15,000+ other people out on the streets looking for work at the same time.

  6. Verizon pays well and there's a good chance that wherever your next job is your compensation including benefits will be significantly less.

  7. Corporate management and occupational jobs like what you had at Verizon will be harder to come by as time goes on due to companies automating via AI functions (e.g., Finance, Accounting, Legal, Marketing, Operations, etc) that previously needed to be performed by human resources.

  8. Your next position after Verizon is likely to be in a different industry and possibly in a totally new job function. Prepare yourself mentally as you'll need to be flexible if you want to continue to work.

  9. Your Verizon personal network will be vitually meaningless in your emploment search as people you thought were your friends and allies will forget you quickly. Too many others will be worried about their own job situations and those who remain at Verizon will be too busy trying to pick up the pieces of the cutback aftermath.

  10. Verizon is firing you and you will never be welcomed back. Forget about returning to Verizon at a later time as it's over no matter how personally invested you've been to VZ over the years. Put VZ in the rearview mirror and move on to your next position.

  11. Verizon will not be providing you with personal recommendations. You'll be directed to an automated employment verification system using VZ's company code which anyone looking to hire you will need to access.

  12. Verizon severance will go quickly. Immediately review and cutback on your discretionary spending. Avoid the temptation to draw on your 401k as you'll need to pay taxes and anything you draw out at a time you can least afford to and it will take you years to recover against retirement savings.

  13. Leaving Verizon employment you're going to be very self confident, however you'll soon experience periods of self doubt and discouragement as you go thru the job search process. Hang in there as this is a normal part of looking for a job.

  14. The Job Search procees has drastically changed since you went to work for Verizon. Take the time to learn how to effectively search for a job using the latest techniques and approaches.

  15. Verizon job skills are not necessarily transferable to other lines of work. You're going to need to invest time and effort into developing new skills to make yourself marketable.

  16. Your post-Verizon job search will likely take time. The average search has been ~five months so yours could longer or shorter depending on many factors including how diligently you pursue your search.

  17. If you choose to continue to work in Corporate America post-Verizon you will go thru layoffs again.

  18. You no longer work for Verizon. Your job is to find a job.

  19. Verizon's DEI policies are not practiced by many external employers (& rightfully so as everyone should be treated equally) and as such you're going to need to secure a new job based on your personal merits and abilities. If you're older don't worry as there are companies that will hire later career workers. If you're younger make sure you shed any thoughts of job entitlement and have a willingness to work hard to please your employer.

  20. After leaving Verizon you will no longer have a structured routine. Do your best to maintain a daily routine and continue doing the other aspects of your life (i.e., attending church, volunteering, socializing, etc.). Above all do not allow yourself to withdraw and become isolated.

  21. Being a Verizon Employee is no longer a part of your identity. Recognize that there are other more important aspects that make you who you are (i.e., relationship with God & family, values and beliefs, personality, interests, etc.).

  22. You will eventually get thru this period of your life and forget about Verizon. Yes, this will be a time of personal challenge, but you will emerge stronger having personally grown thru the experience.

  23. Leaving Verizon is an excellent time to reevaluate what you want out of the remainder of your life. For some it may be the opportune time to retire, while for others they may choose to reposition themselves with a new career (e.g., entrepreneurship, taking up a trade, Non-profits, ministry, other?). If you still need to work don't allow yourself to quit the workforce prematurely.

  24. Verizon is just a company. Many people mistakenly worship at the throne of the company when in reality as a human organization it will eventually fail everyone that is part of working there. Remember, the Lord has a plan for your life and he will guide and direct your steps when you trust Him (Proverbs 3:5-6).


This will NOT be the last round of layoffs if history is any guide

If you're early or mid career think longer term about the implications of a shrinking oil and gas industry, and where you want to be in the future. This will NOT be the last round of layoffs if history is any guide. Do not wait too late to transition to something else with more long term promise. Don't box yourself into a role that will not translate to another one elsewhere. It is quite rare that you will make it past 55 (or even 50) in this industry and by then it would be too difficult to pivot.

Sound advice. OP: @c8+1ka0j1k60


Take the severance or apply for the job

Hello. I have been told I am being laid off and my term date is 6 months away. I work remotely and live in a small town. There is a job in Cargill in the same level I am that I am qualified for. Debating on whether I take the severance (about a years worth) and run or apply for the job and if I get offered it, lose my severance. Has anyone been through something similar? I can’t really start looking for a job outside yet because of my term date being so far in the future. Thanks in advance. I am just really stressing out and not sure what to do


Panera year three of corporate layoffs

From Reddit:
I'm not talking about the dough facilities. I'm talking about corporate staff.
There has been no notifications, no conversation, no announcements. I think this is standard operating procedure for a company that is currently being sued for failure to notify about layoffs.

Every day a different department has had people let go and by my count there are about 30 or so who have been let go. Some are offered early retirement, some are just called into a meeting with someone who is not their boss and that is that. Almost of them have been at Panera for more than 10 years. This is not who we are supposed to be but when someone shows you who they are, you should listen and so should we.

More than a few people have said that layoffs will continue until next week but no one actually knows because no one is actually saying anything. I think the only reason they are doing it this way is because they laid off a bunch of HR people last month. I'm sorry, they did not get laid off, they were told their jobs were moving to Boston and they could apply but they would get no bump in pay.

Here is what you need to do:

  • Stay calm. The decision has been made and nothing you can do will change it.
  • Give recommendations and get references. Have one last conversation with that friend or manager.
  • Download or offload anything you want to keep. Performance reviews and letters that say you did a good job, those are yours, those belong to you. Anything you produced like reports or summaries of your work, save it, change some numbers and keep it because you want to remember what you did.
  • Start looking for work now. This company is sinking and so are our opportunities.
  • If you work in the office, bring a bag in tomorrow and be ready to walk out.

If you survive the cuts keep looking for work. This company is on its way down and it will not help your career to ride it out looking for a nice severance. Our sales have not been this low since the pandemic. The people in charge have zero understanding of what this company is.


Is it always like this?

I joined Verizon two years ago right out of college, and I can’t remember a single stretch of time when layoffs weren’t hanging over everyone’s head. Was it always like this in the past, or is this just how things are now? Is it the same everywhere? Is this what I have to look forward to for the rest of my working life?


Job Hunting on Dating Apps! (HR Dive, Nov 2025)

A growing number of job seekers are using dating apps like Tinder, Bumble and Facebook Dating to make professional connections amid a tough job market, according to a ResumeBuilder.com survey. One in three dating app users said they used the platforms for career-related reasons in the past year, and nearly one in ten said it was their primary goal.

Among those users, 88% reported successful professional connections, with many gaining mentorship, job leads, interviews, or even job offers. ResumeBuilder’s Chief Career Advisor Stacie Haller explained that as LinkedIn becomes increasingly competitive, dating apps offer a more personal and less formal networking option focused on human connection.

Users across age groups and income levels are experimenting with this approach, with higher earners more likely to use dating apps professionally. Most said they were transparent about their intentions. Some rewrote their dating profiles to resemble resumes, and several reported quick job results.

While some found the approach “weird but effective,” many said it reflects how difficult traditional job hunting has become. Beyond career benefits, 58% of participants also developed romantic relationships through their networking efforts, leading Haller to joke that some are landing both “a job and a relationship.”

https://www.hrdive.com/news/job-seekers-swiping-right-search-new-job-dating-apps/805033/


Qualcomm’s longest-serving employee

A heart warming article on WSJ about the longest serving employee of QC..

De... ..nch at Qualcomm
Principal engineer/manager
Age: 61
Date hired: 1987

Early days: Qualcomm’s longest-serving employee moved to San Diego after college, looking for warm weather. He saw a classified ad in the San Diego Union-Tribune in 1987 and applied for a role as a technician. He was 22. “I had no idea what the company was,” he said. Qualcomm would go on to power the technology used inside millions of cellphones and other devices, with Punch working on many of the company’s key projects.


The Gamble - wait for a payoff ?

How many are waiting for that payoff, that tap on the shoulder, that bonus to leave the sinking ship.

But worse than that, how many are just coasting along without a care in the world, ensuring that the ship will inevitably end up sinking, despite any efforts to trim costs.

Re-Invention, Own-it, no end of the different ‘Emperors New Clothes’ plans.

Face it - if you have any self respect you should call it a day and go get a new job, somewhere you can see a long term career outlook.


Good employees do not complain.........

They just leave. They silently pack up their value, their loyalty, their potential, and take it where they will be appreciated. They don't waste time arguing for respect or begging to be seen. If a workplace fails to recognize their worth, they simply move on to the places that do. Because the best talent doesn't need to shout. They let their absence speak louder than their presence ever could.