#compensation

It would be nice to hear what other SF agents are doing to prepare for new contract changes. Set the bi--hing aside since many of us feel like venting. What is your business approach to the drastic changes to compensation.

Can anyone confirm what the offers were in voluntary?

Anyone have any insight on this happening?

Dan Schulman made 34.3 million in 3 months in 2025 :He only became CEO on October 4, 2025 — so he earned most of that in just 3 months as CEO. Here's how:He received a $9.5 million RSU grant upfront just to compensate him for pay he forfeited when he left a prior investment firm to take the Verizon job. Then a $20 million RSU grant vesting in 2027, plus a $30 million PSU grant tied to performance — all loaded in at the start. Add his $1.5 million base salary and a short-term bonus target of 250% of base salary, prorated for the portion of 2025 he was CEO , and you get to $34.3 million fast.The CEO Hans Vestberg collected $31.2 million in 2025 compensation. So Verizon paid two CEOs over $65 million combined in the same year it laid off 13,000 workers.The system that allows this:The board sets pay. The board is elected by shareholders. But in practice, executive compensation committees at major corporations benchmark pay against other large companies — creating a ratchet where CEO pay only goes up, regardless of performance. Schulman got paid to leave his last job and came in loaded with equity from day one, before proving anything.
So to directly answer your question: he made $34.3 million largely through upfront equity grants and a golden hello — not because he earned it through results. The results come later, if they come at all.

Oh sure, Citi pull out what they think is a big win by luring in some major director from other banks here and there. They make sure that hits the headlines but as you can see, they don’t stay very long.

Its a money shell game. These guys move from company to company for more money each time they move. They have no interest in making Citi a home.

They have lost all moral respect for human beings .. They feel that giving people a $20 and or 30 $ merit increase per month is going to make someone satisfied and or work in the office ? Has this company lost its mind? The huge CAMPUS that they built in Belgrade only 5 years ago , and now giving people $20 raises per month? Are they serious? They are looking to pay for the same positions a salary that they were paying 12 years ago .. .They are still trying to pay people in Belgrade $800 a month... That story has sailed... Then from what everyone heard is they fired the president of the Labor Union in Belgrade just so the top players could run the company.. This company has become criminal . All people are doing now is coming into the office and socializing all day ... what a waste of work force .. Then again while the GM in Serbia and his buddies are all profiting while they can ... not sure what is going on but people cant live on a $20 pay increase.. this is so low .. this company should be prosecuted

As an owner, I know this is a good company with kind, and capable people who are victims. The teams are carrying a huge burden, and living in fear, but the real issue is leadership. The company has become top heavy with expensive SVPs, slow to act, disconnected from customers and value, and incapable of executing with clarity or urgency or even working together. And whenever we hire a new person to lead, strategy shifts and we start all over, or worse they come up with the exact same plan that the old team did, but that leadership were too blind or paralyzed to execute on. For the last 5-6 years, there has been almost no meaningful customer context at the executive level, and even now there is a visible disconnect between leadership’s new direction and what CDW actually does in the market to create value.

Proof? The Overall messaging is weak. The company struggles to articulate or sell new solutions with confidence. Marketing has become performative instead of effective. Internal politics, favoritism, and executive empire-building are rewarded while execution suffers. Consultants swarm the business looking for problems to solve while accountability disappears, and we are slowed down. Teams compete internally instead of aligning externally against the market. Fundamental operational discipline, blocking and tackling has largely vanished. Stock is a perfect reflection of reality. We were given the shot.

An equally concerning problem is that too many leaders are learning the business while running it. A top strategy executive from a bloated fire alarm company with stock performance almost as bad as CDW’s. A CMO from a car dealership with no meaningful B2B expertise. A former C level executive from a second rate department store. A sales leader from an HR leadership role. A Bain person running partners and acquisition integration, now c suite strategy. And it goes on, throughout the organization. Customers can feel it. Employees can feel it. The market can feel it. Partners scratch their heads and wonder when it’s going to implode. You people literally have no respect in our market. We apologize for you on every call. Now, we are losing credibility by even working here. Destination workplace? .

At some point, there have to be consequences and structural change at the top instead of another round of resets and reorganizations.

Here is what should happen, thinking like an owner:
• Name a new CEO immediately, even on an interim basis. Anyone would be better than a stock in freefall with no plan. Alternatively, appoint a President with full operational authority from a competitor, or internally, who knows how we create value, is respected and has run these businesses. The organization needs visible leadership and accountability now, not eventually.
• Any executive who cannot hold a credible customer conversation about the company’s core business and solutions should be visibly removed in a layoff. We are better off knowing you were fired, in order to regain respect for you leaders and ourselves. This is not an academic exercise. If leaders do not understand customers relative to our CDW value, they should not be leading any customer-touching organizations.
• Standardize technical and AI enablement across the company using actual vendor ecosystems, proven customer conversations and market platforms just like our peers, not internally manufactured abstractions disconnected from reality created by the burglar alarm team. Everyone should know the stacks, the tools, and the customer use cases. Everyone should be able to prove it.
• Align sales compensation to strategic outcomes, not just individual revenue extraction. The current model rewards personal economics over company transformation.
• Stop socializing executive compensation across broad leadership layers. Compensation should be tied directly to measurable departmental outcomes and execution quality. If I am doing well, don’t penalize me for a weak link i cannot control. Or I will leave, like many other effective leaders have.
• Expand equity participation broadly across employees instead of concentrating upside only at the top. The people doing the work should share in the value creation. They will be loyal and work harder, and be able to actually hold each other accountable as owners. And we will do better as a whole.
• Reduce consultant dependence dramatically, or to zero. If the business cannot operate without armies of external advisors, leadership has already failed.
• Re-establish operational fundamentals: accountability, execution speed, customer intimacy, and cross-functional alignment. Reduce red tape at all costs. AI isn’t enough. Mentality has to shift.

Finally, leadership credibility and employee loyalty requires you make shared sacrifice right now, and it should also be very public. If performance, growth, execution, and customer confidence are all materially off-track, CEO and EVP compensation should reflect that reality. That’s CEO, CFO, COO, CHRO, CCO, CSSO. Accountability cannot only exist for the people lower in the organization. No pay until we are fixed. If you don't like it, please leave or don't expect any respect. Step up and lead.

Since Udit Batra took over as President and CEO of Waters Corporation in September 2020, his total compensation has risen approximately 146% - from $5.7 million in his first partial year to $14 million in 2025 - while the company’s financial performance has largely stagnated. Revenue grew modestly from $2.37 billion in 2020 to $2.96 billion in 2024, a rise of around 25%, and net income actually declined from its 2022 peak of $708 million to $638 million in 2024. The most glaring disconnect came in 2023–2024, when earnings were flat to negative yet Batra received a 27.6% pay increase. Over the same period, the company’s workforce has shrunk. After growing to a peak of 8,200 employees in 2022, Waters cut roughly 328 jobs in a formal 2023 layoff round - approximately 4% of global headcount - and has continued to shed staff, ending 2024 at 7,600 employees, a net reduction of around 700 from the peak and below where the company stood when Batra arrived. Batra himself has cited the headcount reductions as a management success, pointing to flatter org structures and tighter spans of control, while employee reviews describe a culture of ongoing layoffs, increased workloads, suppressed pay, and leadership disconnected from the workforce. In sum, Waters under Batra presents a picture of a CEO whose compensation has substantially outpaced both the company’s financial results and the fortunes of its employees.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Is it just me, or are bonuses and raises well below market?

Even though you're doing more work, more hours, more roles and the load of three others, you don't deserve a raise because Vz is so much more efficient and has better tools than ever before?

He actually said that with a straight face.

Need advise what to do with PTOs as I am one affected by the recent layoffs.
Do we get them paid out or take them prior to leaving?

Oracle laid off approximately 20,000 employees globally earlier this year. Former workers are now disputing the severance terms and forfeited stock grants. Many lost significant unvested equity, with one employee losing nearly $1 million. Concerns also include WARN Act protections and remote worker classification. Oracle reportedly declined to negotiate better terms despite employee petitions.

https://www.peoplematters.in/news/strategic-hr/oracle-cut-20000-jobs-now-employees-are-fighting-over-lost-stock-worth-nearly-dollar1-million-49657

I have a lot of bad things to say about Dell, but pay is not one of them. What's the biggest jump you've ever gotten?

Curious..
What was your grade, salary, share amounts?

Maybe your role wasn’t eliminated but it’s different now… you’re managing a lot more people suddenly or not managing people anymore? Or you were asked to go down a level in title or comp?

I'm thinking about leaving but I don't know what's worth it. Ten percent? Twenty percent? What would make you actually pack up and go?

Someone told me that Cognizant did not hire him as his salary was too high.
FIS wanted to transfer him. So ultimately he got riffed.

Is there a top limit cognizant is hiring FIS employees?

Corporations often experience high turnover due to toxic culture, inadequate compensation, limited career growth, and, according to discussions on Reddit, unrealistic sales targets. Key drivers include burnout, poor management, and a lack of recognition, which prompt employees to leave for better opportunities, as discussed in this LinkedIn post and detailed by AIHR and Indeed.

So we’re actually getting the quarterly bonus. Underperformed on Data Losses, but outperformed on Mobile Adds, so it basically evened out.

If anyone from management or HR is reading this, please don’t change our current WPE policy. BAC does not give compensation increases to majority of the workforce. Flexibility is the one thing keeping us going. If you want people to quit, it will be the wrong people. Seriously an employer who wants to continue to have a flexible 3 days in office schedule.

What happens to your shares if you get laid off? Do they pay you or not?

Oracle ate all the RSU’s of laid off employees, cruel employer who didn’t pay for hard work. Oracle recruiters always push for equity compensation to inflate overall total compensation.

I have one year left until I’m vested. Is it worth it though? Personally I don’t think it is, but I don’t how 65 yr old me will feel either.

Heard some G8 were force to take a pay cut and become G7 and if they didn't accept those terms. They're gone and would not even get the severance package.

If we do not accept pip?

Is it less than the layoffs from February?

Does PTO get paid out with severance?

A law firm investigates Macy's operations in Tulsa. This concerns a recent layoff of 916 employees. The firm suspects a federal WARN Act violation. This law requires 60 days' notice for mass job cuts. Employees could claim compensation and other entitlements.

Tulsa, Oklahoma

https://straussborrelli.com/2026/05/06/macys-fulfillment-center-tulsa-warn-act-investigation/

Not the "handout book".

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Reaching out to those who were impacted by layoffs last year, especially from non-sales roles.

I understand that employees who were let go in February received 100% of their IBP, and those impacted around September/October received about 75% of their IBP.

Can anyone confirm whether employees who were let go around the June/July timeframe received any IBP payout along with their severance?

Thanks in advance.

Does that sound like a good offer or marching orders?

https://techrights.org/n/2026/05/08/Internal_Microsoft_Communications_Confirm_Buyout_Offer_Worse_Th.shtml

Did any FTS folks get the axe?

They got rid of the mandatory furlough just a few weeks before the sh-t hit the fan. In retrospect, that feels very telling. Make the contractors work every holiday now that they canned everyone else.

And no amount of OT you can chase is ever going to make up for the $30k bonus that other dude got last year — while also getting paid vacation time and holidays with his family instead of toiling away like some bottom feeder. That’s how they see us. Disposable labor.

Don’t let them take your soul. Do whatever you can to let the contract lapse and collect unemployment if possible. Use this as a runway to get the fu-k out.

And if you’re FTS and got laid off:
How many years were you there?
Did you get any kind of package?
Or were you just completely SOL?

Because in FTS land, contractors are treated like the trash beneath the trash pile — completely disposable.

My contract is up in a few months, and I’m wondering whether they’re just going to let contracts lapse or try to force all of us into full-time RTO without any increase in pay or benefits.

They need to pay me more to be onsite full time, and their legalese is not magically going to protect them. Up until literally last week, leadership messaging was that we would never be required back full time. That was the understanding many people accepted when agreeing to these roles.

Use this moment as your runway:
Ask for more.
Push back.
Or safely get the fu-k out of this shell game.

The longer you stay in contractor land, the more years of your life you are tossing into the fire.

They will never voluntarily give you benefits, vacation time, a 401(k) match, or meaningful raises. And if, by some miracle, you finally get a conversion opportunity, they’ll often lowball you so hard that you either:

1.  Stay a contractor out of necessity, or
2.  Convert while feeling deeply resentful and underpaid.

Someone I know was there for over five years:
• Underpaid
• No vacation
• No bonus
• No 401(k) match
• No raises, not even cost-of-living increases
• Overtime never approved
• Still expected onsite the same amount as FTEs

And when they finally tried to convert, the offer was reportedly so low it felt insulting and demoralizing.

Do not get trapped in contractor land.

FTS feels like a shell game, and honestly, a lot of this starts raising real questions about worker classification and fairness. Massachusetts has strict contractor laws and the ABC test for a reason.

If people feel they are being misclassified or denied lawful compensation, they should absolutely consider speaking with an employment attorney or contacting the Massachusetts Attorney General’s Office Fair Labor Division to understand their rights.

Also, if contractors are truly separate workers through a staffing agency, it raises questions when internal skip-level managers are effectively controlling compensation conversations while simultaneously claiming they cannot know contractor pay details.

Like any contracting arrangement, if someone is making $50/hour and the vendor is billing dramatically more for that labor, there should be room for fair treatment, annual increases, and basic respect for long-term workers.

At some point, companies have to stop treating experienced contractors like permanently temporary people.

ProTip: In MA you can file a complaint with the Massachusetts Attorney General’s Office Fair Labor Division, and enough people reporting similar sh-t can absolutely trigger a larger investigation into misclassification or wage violations.

And honestly? Use AI to help draft it. Why spend hours stressing over wording when you can dump your timeline into ChatGPT or Microsoft Copilot and have a solid draft in 4 minutes.

File here: MA AG Workplace Complaint Form

Bottom Line - Dan will get his 30%

I know it's exactly what these knuckle-heads want from us, but I just can't tell if this RTO B.S. will come back around or not. I don't make nearly enough to be spending extra money on gas just to sit in virtual meetings! I know many of ya'll are in the same boat as me. But what about the Mgrs, any news on RTO? Its been months and all we've heard was ZIP.

Anyone know what the top out pay for this position is? Or how to tell what your top out pay is?

do guidelines on responsibilities handled by each gsr even mean anything? ive been gsr 7 for four years and my responsibility, scope, and importance of work dramatically increased but im still gr7 all the same. Exceeded on all reviews with the exception of met on my second year.

is this my direct management holding their cards close to their chest or is Ford not a place that cares about fairly compensating employees for workload

Likely those who follow any news or updates could think twice about ever working at a refinery during times of War. Companies know they will have to bump up the money to meet the rising risks in order to keep employees and have multiple quick back up plans to hire replacements. Might see early retirements.

What is the upper base salary for L4, that can put one in the layoff list?

Is it above $110,000?

What the he-l is wrong with these people? Record stock price and then you go in and reduce our commission because of "inflation"?

Fu-k off

Key Salary Information:

National CWA President: Approximately $244,771–$260,618 in total compensation.Sector/Division Presidents: Roughly $191,137.

Associate benefits:

2% raises / medical cap / no eisp

So is the firm just cleaning up the unqualified people that were promoted over being fired during the pandemic? Those are the only people I know who are overpaid. Everyone else doesn’t make what they’re worth