Come on Comcast!! Folks are more productive when they can work office closer to home rather than commuting. Shall we start submitting gas expenses. Put your badging system as one system
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Considering coming back
I was laid off about 2 years ago and got a job somewhere else. Im being offered a very high salary to come back.
This is probably the wrong forum to ask this but looking for opinions of other high level leaders (lets say band 5+) on whether this is a good move. Im happy where I am and have a defined path to a very high level position but its a very far commute and significantly less pay than Cigna is offering.
RTO!
All US staff back into the office in January, 3 or more days per week. Who cares that you were largely remote for 6 or more years, you have 60 days to change your entire way of life to pretend to get more work done at a temp desk.
Who cares if your entire team is in another state or country, you now need to sit in traffic and spend money to attend Teams calls from the office instead. An effective pay reduction for the entire US NG workforce. Great job!
Forced relocation
Fidelity is forcing a team to relocate to the city centre, despite the existing office remaining open and the work being perfectly doable from there. Alongside reduced WFH, employees are facing significantly longer commutes for seemingly no good reason.
Why make life harder for employees when a perfectly reasonable alternative exists? Has anyone successfully challenged a forced relocation?
Everyone is happy to work at uSBank
Results are in , ttus.
72 percent participation. I was the other 28 percent that didn't bother with the garbage.
80 percent are happy and plan to stay and recommend USBank as a great employer.
Top topic was compensation.
RTO is no longer important to UsBank employees as we are all happy to drive 3 hours a day to sit in cube, talking to other team members on Team.
The Results must be run by same people in White. House or North Korea where everyone is happy with dear Ole Leaders aka MC
Corporate genius strikes again!
Just one year ago, FLD told us that collaboration was fantastic. A tremendous success. The best collaboration anyone had ever seen. But now, apparently, one year later, collaboration has gone bad. Very bad. Nobody knows why. Nobody understands it. So naturally, the solution is to drag everyone back to the office. Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! Because nothing boosts productivity like spending two hours commuting to sit at a desk, wearing headphones, attending virtual meetings with colleagues sitting 10 metres away. Incredible innovation! And the best part? It's all about collaboration. Believe me, nobody collaborates better than people who are forced to be in the same building. We are going to make offices great again!
Driving into campus
Why do so many people not use the EZTag to access campus? Every morning I have to wait for 10 people all slowing down, opening their window, fumbling with their badge, then finally opening the gate. We need to start each year’s NSI pool with these people
Tuesday
It’s only Tuesday and I’m exhausted from driving. The vibe is miserable. There is no point to coming in to talk to people in other sites.
Cincinnati Oakley Station Pulse Point
Does anyone have insight what they are planning for Oakley Station Pulse Point? If they close it, any advice on how to avoid being forced way up to Mason which is significantly further from Cincinnati?
Some changes are ok
Kudos to ML for righting some wrongs with leadership. Just hoping he keeps the changes to personnel and doesn’t withdraw intentional flexibility. No one wants to deal with being in the office until 5pm and the 2 hour commutes in CLT and ATL.
I’m exhausted…
From waking up to make this commute to sit in an office on zoom calls to talk to my team thousands of miles away. This isn’t sustainable.
SMT RTO
Anyone hear about 100% RTO for everyone in Smithfield beginning in March? I have no idea where they would fit everyone but people in my organization seem to think it’s going to happen. Can’t wait for the 30 min + it takes to just get off campus to increase. My group in Institutional is incredibly micromanaged now and each change they implement undermines our ability to service our clients. It’s horrible.
Just got my latest credit card statement
My food bills have doubled from going into work every day now thanks for the cut in pay it’s great.
I don’t want to see my gasoline cc that should be coming this week
It’s almost criminal what they’ve pulled on us.
There just does not have to be a need for every single employee to come in every single day.
Oh wait.
I forgot only a few locations (boston) are getting the ROYAL SC--W JOB!!!
Wow how to totally disenfranchise 5000 employees.
Do you think your wealthy clients know you’re sc--wing the very people you depend on to carry the Fidelity torch?
I think not.
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The Real Cost of RTO Isn’t Lost Flexibility. Workers Pay $6,736 a Year Just to Show Up
Interesting survey from Inc.
- The ‘RTO tax’ costs workers time as well as money
- The average office worker is losing more than $6,700 a year to the "RTO tax,"
- For those who need childcare, the "tax" more than doubles to $16,538.
- If we’re asking employees to return to the office, we need to help them get there.
https://www.inc.com/bruce-crumley/the-real-cost-of-rto-isnt-lost-flexibility-workers-pay-6736-a-year-just-to-show-up/91414492
LinkedIn discussions https://www.linkedin.com/news/story/the-true-cost-of-rto-6700-a-year-or-more-7668724/
Why is RTO such a big issue for some?
- I was already working from home two or three days a week before COVID.
- Dell had remote and hybrid work long before COVID.
- I was remote well before COVID.
- Gas, tolls, parking, and vehicle wear make RTO expensive.
- I was saving hundreds of dollars a month working from home.
- I am more productive without constant office interruptions.
- My home office has better equipment than the office.
- Most of my collaboration still happens on Teams even when I am in the office.
- There is not enough face-to-face collaboration to justify the commute.
- I reorganized my life around WFH.
- I invested in a dedicated home office.
- I have better control over my time working from home.
- I made major life decisions based on the previous remote-work policy.
- I bought a house based on being remote.
- I moved farther away because I was told remote work was permanent.
- I enrolled my kids in school based on where we moved.
- I sold a car because I no longer needed to commute.
- I can exercise at lunch instead of spending that time commuting.
- I have been fully remote for years. COVID had nothing to do with it.
- Dell previously encouraged remote work and then reversed the policy.
- Some remote employees do not even have an office to return to.
- I worked longer hours and was more available when I was remote.
- My commute is now two hours each way.
- I am not spending four hours a day commuting.
- Now I consider my commute part of my workday.
- The problem is not returning to how things were before COVID. Things were already hybrid or remote before COVID.
Forced RTO and It Only Gets Worse
On top of the recent layoffs, they are forcing return to office, 5 days. In the middle of when gas prices soaring. People asked “are we getting adjustments, extra PTO for when we can’t afford to come in?” And they were berated for ridiculous questions because it “didn’t sound like it was for the students?” Joke of an answer. Gaslight their employees for asking HOW THEY ARE GOING TO SURVIVE!!! Keep in mind, they hired Florida wide. And revoked remote privileges/exceptions for them and said “come in with a 6 hour total commute or quit.” One even suggested their $20/hr employee just “up and move” because “Full Sail shouldn’t cater to you”. That came from a higher up male 6-figures. I know a few people truly affected because of pregnancies and cancers. And it was basically “too bad, so sad”. No remorse. And Garry “Sc--w You All” Jones. They told us that it was because parents were complaining that campus was empty (apparently that is worthy of giving people less than a month to find a job). But I know this will be a shock. It has been planned for years. They couldn’t find the right time and apparently their best option was $5 gas prices and groceries increasing every month was beneficial to all. THEY DONT CARE! Plus their accreditation for a few programs are being questioned (and probably revoked) unless they find a way to scam their way out of it. And I could be wrong. Maybe Garry Jokes will let his employees stay in his actual mansion that those people worked hard for him to get. That is not even the tip of the iceberg. The corruption and nepotism runs much much MUCH deeper.
Honest opinions please
Many people in this forum, told me not to follow the work and most may be right, but I ran out of all options (no payment for movement, couldn't land a job , no other income, no own home) . Anyone followed to work for similar reasons? How do you find the move and adjusting to 2 hour commutes?
RTO and commuting is destroying my sanity
I enjoy the work and have no problem doing it 40+ hours /week. What is quickly driving me insane is spending hours in traffic every day to do the same job I know I can do the same, if not better, without the drive when all of your work is on a computer. Gas is too expensive and Dearborn/metro Detroit su-ks to commute in. On top of that, shame on Ford for making all of their employees come in 4 days for over a year now without proper seating and planning.
Car Leases
Been wondering how many people got into a low mileage lease based on WFH & now are like ohhhh fxck!
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preserving for posterityRTO Phase 1 - 7 weeks in. Thoughts?
OP - February 19
For all of us in Phase 1, curious to hear your thoughts on the experiment thus far after the snack cart honeymoon period has worn off.
I for one think it's worse than expected. For sure my productivity has gone down with my commute and working hours. I am no longer amenable to responding to Slacks or emails after hours if this level of rigidity is in place. That alone is a big productivity drop.
While in the office, finding rooms to have meetings or private conversations is becoming more and more complicated. Why do unused offices and meeting rooms get locked? Is it a safety issue?
Tags: #RTO #ReturnToOffice #Commute #Productivity #MeetingRoom
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Reply - March 11 - Anonymous
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Because of this jersey train tunnel construction they are alllll staying home. Lol.
Reply - March 11 - Anonymous
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@2zt wait until the summer time. We will see everyone after school goes backs in September.
Reply - March 10 - Anonymous
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@2zt The ONE time you left early? Come on kid, grab some of your life back. Everyone leave early. By 5pm today it was a ghost town on my floor.
Reply - March 10 - Anonymous
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The one time I left early (5) from 1515, I felt like I was part of a fire drill - so many people exiting the building at the same time. On my floor I definitely notice people who don't come in on Friday (I guess unlimited pto?). I will say the cleaning crew is definitely in the office 5 days a week, watching our pantry tv.
Reply - March 9 - Anonymous
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My boss told me to WFH whenever I want and said he doesn't agree with DE.
Reply - March 8 - Anonymous
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@2q1 Good to know. Now I dont feel so alone. The company should start some new ERG (Employee Resource Group) for people pi---d at RTO.
Reply - March 8 - Anonymous
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@2nw hmm i'd disagree on this one. i just left and maybe half of the FTE i knew have either left or are actively applying to leave. the other half have been thinking of leaving.
Reply - March 8 - Anonymous
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When RTO was announced, there were many people I talked to in the company who were angry and said they'd see how it goes for the first few months and then leave if it didnt work for their work life balance. Now, no one talks about it angrily or openly. Its like theyve all just accepted it and moved on. Scary how easy it was to get the sheep in line.
Reply - March 6 - Anonymous
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@2dc Im curious to see how compliance is when the weather starts to improve. Remember, its been a rough winter and people dont have anything better to do than come into the office. But once those 72 degree sky blue low humidity days come rolling around and people can work outside, are they still coming in to sit in the AC all day in an office with no windows? And parents cant make it home in time to watch their kids play in their sports leagues? Whats THAT going to do for morale? Hmmm.
Reply - March 6 - Parahill
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The morale is way down. I have since learned how unhappy my coworkers are as well as other departments. Being back has solidified that the old guard keeps the place stuck in the late 90's with lack of innovation. The office is garbage and needs renovation so bad. Something always leaks, breaks, and dissolves in the office. People's office chairs are broken and do they even clean the office?? Subways are messed up, transit trains in NJ not running, rent is too dam high but we are supposed to act like it's 2019 again and everything is great when the city is letting us down?!? How about the precious managers who don't come in but us minions have to? If I have to be here so do they and they better not send me a zoom invite- BE PRESENT AND BE FACE TO FACE DEAR LEADERS. Leadership blows in this place!
Reply - March 3 - Anonymous
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@1tq How do you have time to workout and shower during the day?
Reply - March 2 - Anonymous
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It's such a mess. They haven't done anything about the gas smell. We don't have a proper wi-fi network to do our work so we're using our laptops as hot spots. They told us there would be construction on our floor which never happened, but then other people come to the office to find sawdust all over their desks. There are no private spaces. Soda and water machines aren't clean. I do like the Lodge and the Fitness Center, so my productivity has gone down but my physique is improving.
And to everyone who says "just pretend like it's pre-covid days when we all used to do this." No one liked those days!!! People were exhausted and burnt out, mothers were leaving the workforce altogether en masse, people muscled through physical disabilities and discomforts just to commute, b/c NYCers are standing on crowded buses or trains and then walking to work, not sitting in their cars. They were NOT the glory days of office life!
Reply - February 27 - "There is no dancing in the sky. Only falling."
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@1ac Do you prefer the flavor of snakeskin or leather? Or does David wear something more exotic and tasty like crocodile boots?
Reply - February 26 - Anonymous
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@fp what channel is that?
Reply - February 26 - Anonymous
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@19p you obviously don't work for the company. The "winter storm guidance" email after the latest storm said employees can continue work remotely that day. They specifically mentioned the words work remotely. I'm not sure what memos you're reading.
Reply - February 26 - Been There, Glad To Be Done With That
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@13z Apparently you didn't get the memo. Nobody is allowed to work remotely. In fact, work is completely impossible without "in person collaboration."
RTO means back to the old ways: if you're sick, you don't work. If there's an emergency, you don't work. And work only happens DURING office hours, IN an actual office.
That's what David and Jeff asked for, so that's exactly what they deserve.
Reply - February 26 - Anonymous
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@15x I hope they did!
Reply - February 25 - Anonymous
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@15s So when you were told to work remotely for the snow day, you just didnt do anything and said ooops, my laptop is in the office?
Reply - February 25 - Anonymous
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@13z fu-k that sh-t. I ain't doing an ounce of work past five. They wanted 9 - 5 in an office 5 days a week, and they got it.
Reply - February 25 - Anonymous
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@p2 Of course. Why wouldnt you? If something pops up and you need to work remotely that day, youd be stuck without a laptop and couldnt work. Just because you have it, doesnt mean you need to open it up at home.
Reply - February 22 - Anonymous
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Do people still bring their laptops home???
Reply - February 21 - Anonymous
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@a6 Su-k LE and DE loser c*ck.
Reply - February 21 - Anonymous
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Thus far we are being asked to do the same amount of work with fewer people while having to commute and then expected to check messages after hrs. Lots of business in California now so it su-ks to be in nyc.
Reply - February 21 - Anonymous
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@fm I'm Phase 2/fully remote still, and this $hit-$how of an employer tries to do a number on anyone's mental health. Can't imagine what it's like with a useless commute compounded in. Factor in kids/family, and then it's batshit crazy nightmare. DE masterfully played a page from MAGA script: incompetence, chaos, a total disaster.
Reply - February 21 - Anonymous
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@fp Which Slack channel?
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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BTW, whats with the slack channel where they are chasing tails and cracking down on the people who hardly come in? LOL.
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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@dr You left out the free neck massages the second week we were back.
As far as severe weather, you wont see me on Monday or Tuesday and maybe Wednesday after we get 10 inches (or even 2) this weekend. I have to shovel and the commute will be horrible. I dare them to scold me. They already gave an exemption to the jersey commuters who are dealing with tunnel construction going into Penn Station until March.
Once the newness wears off, this RTO is going to be a beast too big for an HR department who is already running thin to keep constantly chasing people down.
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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@dq I figured I was the only one. Sitting in 2 hour commutes each way to sit by myself and collaborate with no one the entire day has an interesting effect on your mental health.
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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@a6 TLO, clean up on isle 4.
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@dr It was a honey trap.
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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I work about 50% less than I did when I was WFH and my loyalty to the company has declined 100%.
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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@de it's definitely what most people are doing. Let's be honest, this was only about dropping headcount.
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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the snack cart and the one time bagels and cookies were all initial traps, the way they smiled in the first week of Jan, it felt so eerie and creepy like these corporate overlords are celebrating by making sure us commoners were suffering. 5 days is insensitive more than anything in such severe weather conditions with one of the worst winters in many years. no commuting benefits offered like other tech companies, not sure how paramount is gonna be considered a tech media company. its all a big joke.
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I've aged 10 years since Jan. 5
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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What locations got rid of the snack cart?
Reply - February 20 - Anonymous
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Forcing RTO without official office hours is beyond re--rded. Stroll in at 1030. Gone by 4. And gone by 3 on Fridays. But hey, we made it to the office!!
Reply - February 19 - Anonymous
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@a6 Right, but this post was specifically directed towards employees who have been comfortably and productively working from home for the past 5+ years. We can be grateful for a paycheck and still immensely annoyed by an out of touch decision made by clueless corporate overlords. And honestly, citing that "people have always worked in offices" just makes you sound like a dinosaur. Workplaces evolve.
Reply - February 19 - Anonymous
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@a6 happy to commute to work (in fact, i accepted a job offer which requires me to relocate and commute to work!), but not for the same salary that paramount is paying for full remote. an offer for 3 days in office a week is paying me ~2x what paramount is paying me, and this isn't even 5 days in office a week. bigger companies (amazon) lost talent over 5 days RTO.
and you want me to relocate on my own expense? absolutely ridiculous. there were NO metrics used in the decision. the only thing RTO did is force out paramount's best employees. good luck trying to build up your streaming service and become more like a tech company when all of your best engineers left and got snapped up by big companies who can pay much better than paramount!
Reply - February 19 - Anonymous
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@a6
Not if the job puts me anywhere in the vicinity of abrasive bootlickers like you.
Reply - February 19 - Anonymous
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Someone keeps backing up the toilet on our floor.
Layoffs
Hearing layoffs next month in center city commute. Expecting certain percentage per org TPX?
Gas projected to top $6/gal
Seriously considering telling Fido that I literally CANNOT absorb the extra financial cost of commuting to work every day when gas is projected to hit $6/gal. Is anyone else concerned about this? Sure, it’s fine if you live within a few miles but my commute is over an hour combined. How is this okay with Abby and why is no one doing anything about it?
Seattle Commute Times Plummet
Seattle's average commute time has significantly decreased, ranking third nationally. This improvement is primarily attributed to the rise of remote work and a substantial decline in public transit usage. In 2019, 25% of residents used transit, dropping to 15% by 2024. The article notes that solo drivers now average 26.5 minutes, while transit riders take 49.5 minutes. This trend contrasts with Sound Transit's efforts to increase ridership amidst budget concerns.
Seattle, Washington
https://seattlered.com/watch/seattle-ranks-3rd-in-america-for-shrinking-commutes-heres-why/01a08bb4-3c00-8008-f0fa-136d5b56ae80
Excited to commute 2 hrs on Monday
I have a 2 hour round trip to Dallas HQ that I do everyday. I am looking forward to my commute on Monday morning. In the morning it gives me a chance to plan my day. And in the evening I get the opportunity to reflect on my day while driving home. I am too tired to do anything once I am home so I have no trouble falling asleep on time. I love working here. Thank you JS and RTO.
I’m actually kind of ticked off.
I don’t get this ft rto for some but not for all its arbitrary and unfair
So bc our area has the space we get to slog into Boston with our costly commute while other areas that likely cost less to commute get to wfh?!?
How does that build collaboration knowing some of your colleagues sets up a phone meeting just as you would like to leave for your commute all the while they’re sitting on their 🫏 at home with NO COMMUTE?!!!
How is THAT not a hostile work environment?!?
Yea I’m po’d
Why do I feel like this is
Just the beginning of Groundhog Day for us all?! This is the daily grind personified.
I just think after 6 years of ft wfh and then hybrid this is going to be a really difficult slope to scale after a couple of months with no let us except an errant holiday or vacation day?
What were they thinking?!!
I’m exhausted just thinking about how tedious this gets and how arduous it is after a long day.
It doesn’t help and it’s not political because gas dollar for dollar was higher under Carter obamma and even joe much higher but it’s painful at the pump. The average on today’s dollar would be between $5-6 on average.
Single parent here
I remember asking if there was a chance they’d reduce a day as gas prices climbed and was told no. Never mind how other people are abusing that but with prices going up I am pretty close to living paycheck to paycheck. I don’t want to bring it up again to the powers that be but it’s really getting hard. Every single thing is. The icing on the cake is the constant fear of a layoff every other week. Is anyone else going through this? I’m tempted to borrow from my 401K.
Move to Pioneer in 2027
Any tips on making our daily commute to Tuas more pleasant? I don’t know what to expect
Work harder so execs compensation package is bigger
Oh, was that not motivating enough?
Well what if we completely fu---d you over and made you commute for 2 hours a day?
Oh well, I tried. I cannot figure out why the employees are not happy or motivated.
Time to give myself a 5 million dollar bonus for all that hard work!
Commuting to the Office to Work Remotely From the Office
There are absolutely times when people should be together, but in reality those times are few and far between. If the work actually benefits from being face to face, great. Get everyone in the room and get your sh-t done.
But that’s not what 5x RTO has become… We’re tracking badge swipes, building dashboards, calculating hours and obsessing over whether someone’s a-s was physically in a chair for eight hours. All for… what?
So people can drive to an office, put on headphones, open Teams and work remotely from the office?… Seriously, what the fu-k are we doing?
If my entire day is Teams calls, emails, spreadsheets and work with people sitting in different buildings or different states, then forcing me to commute to do it from a cubicle isn’t collaboration. It’s pointless theater.
I could do the exact same work from my house just like I did for a decade before Covid. I’d get more done, I’d be less burned out, and AT&T wouldn’t have to waste money supporting the office just so somebody can say we were “present.”
Bring people together when there’s a reason to be together. Stop confusing physical presence with productivity. They are not aligned.
If the end result of 5x RTO is that I commute an hour to sit in a building and work remotely from my desk, then congratulations, you did it (and nothing else)!
Way to go baldo! You just reinvented working from home - with traffic. What a joke!
This is ki-ling morale
Having to waste more than two hours on commute is certainly not making me more productive. What it is making me is resentful and slow and absolutely unwilling to go the extra mile, something I used to do all the time. I'm betting you RTO will turn out to be the biggest productivity ki-ler.
Four good weeks out of every six-week reporting period.
Could someone please clarify how the “4 good weeks out of 6” policy is measured? If it is tied to the 3‑days‑in‑office requirement, does that mean I would only need to be in the office 12 days over a 6‑week period (4 weeks × 3 days)?
Our team provides 24/7 global support, with all communication conducted electronically and no in‑person interaction required—especially for my role. My workday does not begin at 8 AM nor end at 5 PM, and weekend coverage is a regular part of the schedule. Despite consistently meeting or exceeding performance expectations, I have not received a meaningful salary increase in years, and I cannot afford to live near the office.
For me personally, the 40‑hour monthly commute is unpaid, non‑productive time that could otherwise be spent on work or on personal recovery. As a result, the in‑office requirement feels fundamentally misaligned with the remote, round‑the‑clock nature of the role.
5x RTO isn’t a senior social program
Some people seem to genuinely need the office for their social life. Fine. Go in five days a week. Nobody is stopping you.
But I’m not going to work to make friends. I’m here to do a job. And we’re told loyalty is dead and we’re a market-based company, so let’s be honest about the relationship — I sell my time and expertise, AT&T pays me for it. That’s it.
I prefer working with people who can get their sh-t done without an adult babysitter watching over them. If you can’t perform from home, sitting in an office doesn’t magically make you productive. Now you’ve just added a commute and a day full of distractions.
We’re supposed to be here to work, not recreate a nursing-home social mixer five days a week.
If you need the office, have at it. Just stop making the rest of us pay for your social life.
The Perfect Day:
- Show up at the office at 8am
- 8 hours of Teams calls with people in a different state/office or working from home
- 30 minute lunch break
- Leave at 4PM and drive two hours home
- Question the point of it all
It doesn’t get better than this!
Are virtuals getting an unfair pickleball advantage?
This issue needs to be addressed before the new AT&T headquarters in Plano opens.
The Plano campus will have pickleball courts, which means employees may soon be competing against one another on a regular basis. However, virtual employees already have a major advantage: they do not have to spend up to two hours each day commuting to and from the Dallas headquarters.
While the rest of us are sitting in traffic, virtual employees could be using that time to practice their serves, improve their game, and prepare for the Plano courts. By the time the new headquarters opens, employees who have been commuting may be years behind in pickleball development.
This creates a serious fairness issue. The Plano pickleball courts should be a level playing field, but that will not be possible if one group has had significantly more time to practice simply because of where they work.
Leadership needs to act now, before the competitive gap becomes impossible to close. I am requesting that virtual employees return to the office so everyone has the same commuting obligations and the same opportunity to prepare.
We cannot wait until the first Plano pickleball tournament to realize that this problem should have been handled sooner. The integrity of AT&T pickleball is at stake and the time to act is now before it is too late.
More productive WFH.
When I was working from home during covid, I was amazed at how much work I got done. I was proud of how much I accomplished daily. It was a pleasure working every day. Now that I'm back in the office, the commute, the noise, distractions, bothered by boring id--ts has completely demotivated me. I only come in to do the minimum. They really miscalculated the whole opportunity.
Dallas brunt
I am a fool. I underestimated Dallas commute, Parking and the 8 hour requirement. What a mess. Door to door is 11 hours for 5 days a week. What the he-l? How are my fellow 50 year olds taking it?
Why I'm still here despite all the negative changes
I stay because the health insurance covers my kid's therapy and the commute is only 20 minutes. My manager is clueless, but my three teammates are sharp and we cover for each other. Why would I start over somewhere else that'd probably have the exact same issues and no seniority?
On a positive note…
I do have to say that I am grateful that PNC let us work from home if we used the Parkway East. I would be so drained by the time I got to work and got home. You’re talking probably at least an extra two hours commute time plus spending more money on gas sitting in all the traffic. No matter which detour you took it was bad. I talked to a few few friends. I have in the medical field and it was a nightmare. Don’t let people tell you that it wasn’t.
So if the executives are reading this, I want to thank you for letting us do this because you didn’t have to.
Frisco to Dallas
Who is commuting 5 days a week, 60 miles each day. $25 per day in travel costs not including parking.
Aren’t you exhausted? Needs to be at least 3-4 years until Plano HQ.
Finding new employment in Dallas doesn’t help as commute doesn’t change. Those who work in Plano office are super lucky.