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Severance Negotiation - Anyone use a lawyer?

Thinking about retaining an employment attorney to look over my layoff paperwork and see if there is any room to negotiate a better severance package.

If you've used a lawyer for this, how did it go? Did the company offer more, or did you end up paying legal fees out of pocket for no change? Any advice or experiences would be highly appreciated.


The waiting game

This is excruciating not knowing really what to do. I feel like it's all a game. Spin the wheel or pass and hope you pick the right curtain. We live paycheck to paycheck as it is. Gosh if I was a zillionair I would give up most of my salary first to save jobs for others who literally need the money. I don't understand why one would think they need that much money. You could not take that many vacations or buy enough cars anyway so why just why are ppl so freaking greedy. You can't take it with you when your gone. Just so torn and literally having too many heart palpitations over this game show. This is unbelievable!


Severance Package T&C's?

Does anyone know if the T&Cs on the sign off for the severance package prohibit the following:
Working for the competition .
Engaging with AT&T customers as a consultant as part of a private LLC
Any conditions on whistle blowing


Will this ever stop??

I know several people who were riffed in June, and there are still rumors of larger global RIFs coming in July and August.

For those who make it through these rounds, whats the outlook for the rest of 2026? Do these cycles eventually come to an end, or is this just the new normal?

At this point, I’d rather be included in a RIF now while severance packages are still relatively generous.

So tired of this, let me work or let me go


90 Day WARN Period

The documentation says that I will notify Citi if I find a new job during notice period, and that they will pay the balance in a lump sum. Does that basically mean you get the balance of what is left of the 90 Days' notice period, but you lose benefits as well as PTO accrual from the termination date that you give them?

Thanks


The worst part of it all

We all know an involuntary round is coming, and it'll most likely have a lesser package attached to it. So those of us who want to stay can say no to a VSP just to end up laid off a few months later and with less to show for it. Kind of makes it really hard to say no, doesn't it?


Paychex Layoffs 2026

Paychex has decided to layoff approximating 10 designers and over 70 developers. They are refusing to give any reasoning or criteria for why they targeted individuals, citing AI wasn't the reason and that it was for "business needs" and "sustainability". From what I've heard they gave former employees only 9 weeks of severance.


Pascal got a 6 month notice

Pascal is off the payroll on Jan 1 2027 and received a 6 months notice whereas those who got surplussed today received a 2 weeks notice.

The 6 months is to complete knowledge transfer and to train the incoming CFO Jennifer Biry. Pascal’s annual compensation is approximately $12 million which means he will make $6 million before being off the payroll and heading off to the Bahamas for the rest of his life.

If they wanted any level of respectable fairness he would have the same notice period as everyone else but these executives treat their job as a full time guaranteed vacation.


Layoff Severance

Never thought I would think so negatively about Centene because my experience over the past 4 years has been awesome. I missed the VSP cutoff by 2 days due to my official FTE conversion date, but I don’t think I would have applied anyways.

Curious though, if laid off September 1st, what are typical (non-VSP) severance packages like at Centene?


VSP are not very clear or informative (not unlike every other thing at Centene)

Now let's figure out how this is ok.
I looked over the VSP, not in detail so I might have missed some things, however, these are my questions:

what happens to your sick/accrued PTO? Did not notice any mention of this.

lets say that you do not "apply" for VSP, why arent they mentioning what the severance will be if they pick you to be layed off in August or perhaps the second round of layoffs which i suspect will be later on once they get their bearings after the first layoff.

Now lets say you "apply" for VSP, but they decline, only to later lay you off in August (as their numbers haven't been met). Doesnt seem very ethical as now they dont have to give you the additional benefit of VSP and terminate you with just the basic severance. That seems a bit shady, as this could be one of the methods to let people go and have less cost as they will not provide the additional benefit that you originally applied for.

I know that all states are different, however I think it would be nice if they looked into it and included into individualized offers the information on our ability/inability to file for unemployment.

Seems to me that this entire situation and the way it is handled is only to benefit Centene with absolutely no regard for thousands of people who have gone above and beyond in their jobs. I know that this is the state of the current corporate world, but there must be something that can be done to stand up to these bullies. I wonder if the legal department has anyone who also got the VSP and might have some ideas :)


Transition to Accenture offshore workers

A certain guy who used to work for you guys ("RR") from what we understand brought about this firing of competent people (especially in Tech) and offshoring to Accenture. That is currently now happening at his next stop - T Rowe Price in Baltimore. A competent IT shop is being dismantled - Laid off, but to get severance you have to agree to train the people replacing you who have little if any experience, initiative, etc. Can anyone let us know how that went for you guys? Do you know if our guy "RR" left on his own or was forced out after this turned out to be a disaster? Thank you. Training is not going well, yet the keys are expected to be handed over soon.


Being laid off has been a nightmare

I can't get interviews for roles that match my experience, so I've been applying for entry level jobs just to get some money coming in, since severance is melting away. Each one of them said I'm overqualified and would leave too fast. So what am I supposed to do?


Has anyone considered quitting before severance date?

For those promised a severance package towards the end of 2027, are you considering leaving/retiring before the end of this year? Just to escape Polaris, workplace toxicity and overall dysfunction the company is sinking into further each day ?
Despite the promised payout, does your sanity seem like too high a price to pay in order to receive the severance/settlement ?
(Also, what if they keep moving the end date later than year end 2027??)


Have you started getting your severance pay, cuz mine is not yet "ready"

To those who were SEPARATED from Fidelity at the end of May, have you started getting your severance pay? I got my PTO paid out but not the severance pay....wonder what the he-l is taking them so long. Also, has your 401 balance updated for vesting? I lost a bunch due to not vesting at 100% but statement still shows the "what would have been" figure, which, frankly, pi---s me off.


Questions I Would Take to Leadership

After reading the VSP offer, details & information and the FAQs, these are the questions I have for leadership. Please feel free to add to the list:

  1. Can employees review the Separation Agreement before making a final decision? We’re being asked to make an irreversible decision (if our application is accepted) before seeing the actual release language.
  2. What is the true amount I will receive of if I accept the VSP? Not the estimated amount. The concern is the amount maybe lowered after our application is approved.
  3. If I decline the VSP and am later laid off, what severance amount would I receive? This amount could be lower or higher and plays a big part in the decision.
  4. What percentage of VSP applications are expected to be approved?
  5. What will my monthly health insurance cost be during the 6-month COBRA subsidy?
  6. What will the full COBRA premium cost after the subsidy ends?
  7. When should employees expect the lump-sum severance payment?
  8. If rehired by Centene, what repayment obligations apply?
  9. How will unemployment benefits be affected by the VSP?
  10. What happens if my VSP application is approved but business needs change later?
  11. How likely is it that accepted applicants will receive a September 1 separation date? The FAQs state the dates may vary.

I don’t trust the email

I just opened my severance package, and I’m honestly a little flabbergasted. After being employed 8 years with the company, my offer is less than $25,000.

What concerns me even more is the wording. It keeps saying “you may” instead of clearly stating what will happen. Nothing about it feels guaranteed, which makes me question whether they’re actually committing to what they’re offering OR trying to to terminate me prior to the Sept 1st date.


Why is COBRA priced at full premium for the recent rif cohort ?

Are you seeing the rates being subsidized ? The paperwork said cobra will be subsidized to what one paid as active employee for the x weeks of severance. Cobra paperwork has a scandalous $ for indi+ family. Any leads on how you addressed this ? TIA.


June 14th layoffs

If you get surplused please post the following info:

Landline or Wireless
Your VP Org
Management or Union
Years of service vs weeks of severance
Did you reject the RTO new location mandate

I'm curious to see if all those claiming union layoffs are correct.

Thank you