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VP's being let go or layed off

I worked as a senior director for centene for almost 9 years. There are several VPS that I would love to see handed their backside and would love to know if there is a list of VPs who have been let go, laid off, or left the company. There are several of them that I would love to see them on. The welfare line are absolutely broke. They deserve it.


Quarterly Results

I sat on what I think is my last Oracle Quarterly call and I was plesantly impressed and then I started to laugh. OCI is ki-ling it and our CPU and GPU consumptions are through the roof, like up 121%. So net net, we did better then the $1.74 perforance forecast of Wall Street and we actually delivered about $1.91 or something Excellent. So I pull up the PDF with the numbers and I noticed something in parenthesis (). When you look at accouting numbers, numbers in parenthesis means something negative or a loss. So it turns out we spend more than $5 billion then what came in. We made money, but spent more?? Where did the $5 billion come from.

Then it hit me. It was from the $40 billion dollar bonds they secured a few months ago, on top of the $100 billion Oracle already owes bond holders, so the problem is Oracle is still spending more then what their making and the CFO herself said they won't see a dent in the $660 billion RPO reseserved contacts, not until 2028 or 36 months at the latest. Then you take into account that $300 billion deal with from OpenAI who has yet to claim any profitablity yet despite have a net value of $900 billion. If OpenAI turns around and says no, what is half of $660 billion?

Maybe some of you have heard of Enron math? Well Enron math is live and kicking at Oracle. If it turns out that I am one of the fortunate ones to get laid off next week, I will be soooooo happy and I hope others will be happy as me when we reflect on how Oracle and management treat their employees -- we are just rows on an Excel sheet at the end of the day.

Good luck to everyone next week I am proud to say that I have worked with some of the most amazing people at Oracle. 10 years wow God bless everyone!!


Pretty sure Monday or Tuesday is it

I am retiring in March, so I told my manager that if there was a layoff before that I would volunteer. Today after they met with their director, I got a lot of questions about documenting my processes. And if I could document as much as possible before Monday (most has been documented already, but Codex has changed my workflow). I agreed because my manager is a saint and this is a favor to me at this point..


Some Regrets

Once upon a time, WFB was a great company to work for. I worked through many bank mergers and changes. Most all team members worked hard but were recognized and rewarded fairly. In late 2019, things started changing. Layoffs, change in benefits, Severance times were reduced, etc...then the pandemic happened. My biggest regret is not seeing the writing on the wall. I regret working 12+ hours/day for days on end to meet quarterly deadlines. I regret not speaking up to advocate for others and myself. I regret not job searching early on, thinking I'd be able to reach full retirement age. at WF I regret not moving my 401K to another institution as soon as age permitted. I regret not contributing more to Roth vs. conventional 401k (biggest regret!). I regret not furthering my education to pursue other opportunities.

What I don't regret are all the amazing people I worked with over the years and still keep in touch with to this day. I sure miss the company WF used to be. The Holiday parties, office lunches, employee-family picnics, bowling and softball nights...it once was a lot of fun and an enjoyable place to work. I looked forward to going into work. Unfortunately, today's generation will never know what that kind workplace culture.

After 30+ years, I was displaced before I could reach FRA. It's been over a year since displacement and after hundreds of job applications, not one interview. Yes, I've worked with job coaches, AI, etc...but unfortunately young senior's are not wanted except for Wallmart greeter type jobs.

I loved my job and the people I worked with, received great reviews, tolerated little if no raises, but would have been grateful to say I was able to fully retire from there. I don't miss the RTO mandates, feeling like big brother was constantly watching, the micro-managing managers the last few years, constant manager turnover, and just the overall toxicity in the office. This is my last post, then I'm off this site. Not looking for any mean or sarcastic comments. I just wanted to vent and get my thoughts out so I can move on and not look back. Good Luck to all of you who are still working, especially the long-timers if there are still any 30+ TM's out there.


How people get laid off — the untold reality beneath the surface

Those who were laid off should ask themselves why they were selected instead of someone else on their team. What was missing? Many people are complaining about how unfair it was, but you wouldn’t be in this situation if you had consistently made yourself indispensable. Too many treat the company like a home where they deserve to be taken care of. Your role is only secure if you are a difference‑maker. The fact that you were chosen because your removal doesn’t affect the team’s productivity should tell you something

If you haven’t upgraded your skills or delivered meaningful impact, you become an easy target — fair and square. And you should expect the same outcome anywhere else. You wouldn’t hire or keep a contractor for your home if they weren’t excellent, just because you liked them, especially when better quality and cost saving options exists. That’s why you read reviews before hiring one


Customers first. Employees…somewhere.

I’m sorry, but this message is a pretty tone-deaf way to communicate with employees, especially right now.

“Pre-order week is for our customers first.” Got it, Jon. Apparently employees, many of whom are also customers and shareholders, can wait our turn.

After another round of layoffs and with employees being asked to do more with less, telling the people who actually work here that we’re simply not the priority is… certainly a choice.

We can talk all day about putting customers first, but employees aren’t some separate category from the business. We ARE customers. We ARE shareholders. And we’re the people responsible for delivering the experience you’re telling customers to buy.

The continued framing of employees as a number or a resource rather than people who have invested years of their lives into this company is exactly why messaging like this lands so poorly.

There was a much better way to say “customers get first access” without essentially reminding employees where ELT believes we rank.

Tone matters. Especially right now.


Campus Recruiting in USA

I am glad they did not ask me to participate in recruiting on school campuses this year.
I could not ethically tell students that a career at EM is a good choice.
I believe that nearly zero USA recruits starting now will survive the annual PIP layoffs long enough to retire.

Even very good employees can get PIP’d by a bad Supervisor, or by transferring into a tight group, or transferring out of a group that needs a mandatory PIP sacrifice, or just ending up with a boss that is intimidated because the employee knows more than him.

How can EM recruiters lie to students to convince them that EM is a career company?


Harbinger of Finance

Here's the situation, plain as I can lay it out.

Company's got a pipeline business that hit its revenue ceiling in Liquids a couple years quicker than anybody planned for — which in my experience just means somebody upstairs was doing math they wanted to be true instead of math that was true. Meantime the CEO's already halfway out the door and told the shareholders there's a dividend increase coming, like a man promising a woman flowers before he's checked if the truck's even got gas in it. Now there's a hole in the budget and a promise that's already out the door and can't be walked back without looking weak, and weak ain't a look CEOs favor.

They spent three years on some transformation program — N75, whatever they're calling it — s'posed to teach the whole company how to run leaner and smarter. What it actually did was fix a couple small things and then discover outsourcing, which is the corporate version of not doing the dishes and just eating off paper plates. Looks like progress for a while. Ain't nobody teaching anybody nothing. The people running that program were more interested in everybody feeling good about it than anybody actually being right about it — which is how you end up with three years and a stack of PowerPoints and not much else to show.

So now the CFO, decent man far as I can tell, figures somebody's gotta go first, and it might as well be him — starts gutting his own department to prove he'll make the hard calls before he asks anyone else to. Only trouble is, cutting without fixing the process just moves the hurt down the hall. Outsource the finance work, centralize what's left, and all you've done is hide where the bodies are buried, not bury fewer of 'em. Somebody else picks up that work now, some vendor who don't know the business, and the risk don't go away — it just goes quiet for a while.

Way I see it, that's a company that made a promise it couldn't keep, and it's about to spend the next year proving it, one department at a time, while everybody who saw it coming stays quiet and waits to see whose name ends up on it when the bill finally comes due.


No CTO, now what?

Here's the thing about a company that just fired its CTO and didn't line up nobody to take the seat. Ain't nobody in that boardroom saying it out loud, but what they just did is tell every business unit in the building it's open season. And people don't wait around to be told twice when there's power sitting on the table unattended.

First thing goes is the process. Won't be loud about it neither — nobody's gonna stand up and say "let's stop vetting our technology properly." What happens is smaller. A review gets skipped 'cause there's no one senior enough left to insist on it. Then another. Six months on, don't nobody remember there used to be a process at all, just some folks vaguely recall filling out a form once.

Then the business units start making technology decisions same way a man starts driving a truck he's never driven before — confident right up until the ditch. They ain't wrong to want progress. They're just the wrong people making the call, and everybody in the room knows it, and everybody in the room decides that's a tomorrow problem.

Costs go up. Nobody owns admitting that, 'cause the money's coming out of two pockets now instead of one, and when it's two pockets, it's nobody's fault special. That's not an accident. That's what happens when accountability gets split — same as blame does. Everybody's a little bit responsible, which means don't nobody's really responsible at all.

Give it a year, they bring somebody in from outside to fix it. Stranger walks in, looks around, tells 'em exactly what they already knew walking in the door — you people tore down the fence and now the cattle's in the road. Only difference is they're paying consultant rates to hear it said back to 'em slow.

And the folks who used to complain about the old CTO? They're the ones left standing in a hallway with a job title that don't mean nothing no more, waiting on somebody to tell 'em what they're supposed to be doing today. Nobody comes. That's usually how it goes.


More with less. (Mission simplify)

I knew to expect some chaos after half the company was let go, but apparently the solution was simply to hand everyone else three or four additional jobs and call it “opportunity.”

Everything is now urgent. Entire roles are being absorbed by people who are already overloaded, priorities change by the hour, and somehow the expectation is that we’ll just keep smiling and “do more with less.”

Leadership also seems to have forgotten that they can actually help with some of the work. Not every responsibility needs to be delegated down just because there’s someone below you to give it to.

I recently asked one of the "leaders" if they knew what a particular responsibility actually involved specifically, the steps required and how long the investigation can take. The response?

“No, but it can be done.”

Okay. 😂

So I gave them control of my screen and asked them to show me how it’s done.

You guys already know the rest.

Suddenly, they needed to jump on another call.

And that pretty much sums up the current environment. It’s very easy to say something “can be done” when you aren’t the one actually doing it, investigating it, documenting it, following up on it, and answering for it when something goes wrong.

And then there was yesterday’s town hall. We got to hear about favorite vacation spots.
Maybe next time, let’s talk about the employees whose entire summers were ruined because of decisions made above them. The people who were supposed to be enjoying their lives , spending time with their kids away from this place but instead spent their summer worrying about their jobs, their finances, and what was coming next. Some people didn’t exactly get a vacation this year.They got a one way trip to therapy.

But hey, at least we got to hear about everyone’s favorite vacation destination and how s-xi things were. 🙃

As for me, I’ll continue looking for my next opportunity while doing what I reasonably can with the workload I already have. I’m no longer interested in sacrificing my sanity to compensate for staffing decisions I didn’t make.

After yesterday’s town hall? Let’s just say the message was loud enough without actually being said: start preparing. If they can eliminate this many roles once, there’s no reason to believe anyone is permanently safe.
But hey… do more with less.
Until there’s nobody left and AI will do it all.


Cisco su-ks terribly

Dear Cisconians, this is the first time in my long career that I have left the company without having secured another job. The moral decline is inevitable. I was part of it; I started doing the absolute minimum and found that I could still deliver the same or better results than 90% of my colleagues. One day a manager will blabber about "Cisco Values," only to completely disregard them the next day. Good people are leaving, while the mediocre ones stay and play politics and produce AI slop. With every fu--ing layoff, more and more people start to pretending activities, commenting on tickets, pushing spreadsheets, and organizing meetings... Only a minimum number of people are getting promoted; it is a complete career disaster, and the longer you stay, the more your salary is behind the actual labor market. Good luck to you!


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since it got deleted: TheLayoff.com archive: T-Mobile, "5 days/week RTO for some orgs June 1"

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  • Source: TheLayoff.com, board: Thread regarding T-Mobile layoffs
  • Thread address: https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kpztp1hb
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Posted April 24 by Z, post ID @OP+1kpztp1hb.

Gross. Supply chain/procurement.

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Reply 1 of 52, post ID @ae+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 24
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I assume consultants are excluded from RTO as always.

Reply 2 of 52, post ID @aj+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 24
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Some orgs under John Saw are also instructing employees to do 5 days RTO with WFH option only when necessary

Reply 3 of 52, post ID @aq+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 24
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who’s org is that

Reply 4 of 52, post ID @ar+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 24
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Maybe that will help the stock price.

Reply 5 of 52, post ID @as+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 24
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@aj RTO 5 days a week? Damn I have to quit the second job now

Reply 6 of 52, post ID @ay+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 24
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@OP right now most of them are coming to office for couple of hours only, Does that mean we will do the same thing 5 days a week or should be in office for 8 hrs a day for all 5 days?

Reply 7 of 52, post ID @az+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 24
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Abdul's (now Joh Saw's) org was 5 days RTO for managers/directors as soon as the place was reopened with WFH as an exception (e.g., we've got a 3am install occurring...) and you had to have the mandated jab.
Funny that JUST NOW the rest of the org is being mandated RTO.

Reply 8 of 52, post ID @bc+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 24
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@aq It's Simpson's org.

Reply 9 of 52, post ID @fr+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 25
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Simpson has small hands and an even smaller d∗∗k. He is a weasel and is only looking out for his best interests. He is long overdue for a visit from the karma faeries.

Reply 10 of 52, post ID @kj+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 26
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@ay, leadership know that some people are just badge swiping. There will be surveillance enhancements to know who is leaving the office building and when. Facial recognition, transition from using the badge to device for building access, who knows what's coming. But what is clear is their stance on WFH has changed.

Reply 11 of 52, post ID @md+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 26
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Simpson is clearly not a nice person. His wife must be miserable.

Reply 12 of 52, post ID @n1+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 26
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@kj If you come in the garage, you have to badge in and out.

Reply 13 of 52, post ID @qt+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 27
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It's about time. There are way too many employees taking advantage of "Working" from Home....aka Costco runs, babysitting, mowing the lawn, playing golf, watching TV, sleeping, and who knows what else!
Time to get back to the office where the above activities will be harder to pull off. This company needs every employee fully engaged and doing the work they are being paid to do. The stock is way off and shareholders deserve better. The Covid era party has lasted way too long, and is finally coming to an end.

Reply 14 of 52, post ID @qx+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 27
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@qt Old do-nothing office lurking farts like you are why I quit.

Reply 15 of 52, post ID @qy+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 27
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@qt time for all the lazy WFH caucasian ladies to get back to work!

Reply 16 of 52, post ID @w8+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 28
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As it should be. We're now in year six post Fauci's Folly. Time to get back to work.

Reply 17 of 52, post ID @w9+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 28
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@qt Unfortunately for T-Mobile this is a legit reply, for hopefully not most, but too many of our employees. Too bad some people have to ruin a good thing.

Reply 18 of 52, post ID @y8+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: April 28
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@kj they are already using zScaler to monitor everyone's time in the office. They know what office/location your laptop is connected to and for how long.

Reply 19 of 52, post ID @1pj+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 4
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@w9 Several tech companies announced permanent wfh and methodically forced people back into the office. Productivity was up, now they’re resentful. Bring the blame these full of sh-t corporations for their actions, not employees.

Reply 20 of 52, post ID @1pk+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 4
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@qt I guess you’re more productive while talking around a break room drinking coffee instead, or physically attending pointless weekly meetings about updates that you already put in 2 or 3 slide presentations the previous day. You must really have no life if you prefer to be trapped in an office 5 days a week for this nonsense.

Reply 21 of 52, post ID @1q4+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 4
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I don't mind RTO but maybe they could wait until gas prices go back down to normal.

Reply 22 of 52, post ID @1vm+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 5
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@1pk coffee talk, son. Company rules. You're getting paid well. If you don't like it, leave.

Reply 23 of 52, post ID @1yd+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 5
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@1pk You sound like another Gen "Fill in the Blank with whatever Letter suits you" who thinks a job is all about you and what makes you happy. Its called a freaking Job...thats why they pay you. Sounds like what you are really wanting is freedom and the ability to call your own shots. That's called financial independence or retirement. Until then...you are an employee where they pay you to do, what they tell you to do. Save your money my friend and invest well. Cheers!

Reply 24 of 52, post ID @20c+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 6
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@1yd Sadly, I’m probably closer to your age than you think but I’ve evolved to recognize work life balance and not be a sheep. I’m not talking about hard work, I’m talking about office politics. By all means do your job well. That said; We’re all entitled to some level of freedom. The days of shutting down from work off hours is over for most people with technology. In the very least, you should be allowed to work remotely a good portion of your time.
Ironic that you signed off with “cheers.” Perhaps you should consider the European philosophy to work instead of being pretentious.

Reply 25 of 52, post ID @20m+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 6
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@20c if you're not shutting down after hours, that's your fault.

Reply 26 of 52, post ID @20w+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 6
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@20m Not when your management tells you to be available after hours and weekends. Again not everyone has the luxury of bsing half of the day in the office.

Reply 27 of 52, post ID @220+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 6
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@20w sounds like you need a new job or take your tough guy rto attitude to your boss and let them know you don't work after hours and weekends. Do something instead of complaining on the Internet.

Reply 28 of 52, post ID @252+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 7
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@20w It's so fun to hear you business types moan about working after hours. Try being on an engineering or tech team where you routinely are up from Midnight to 3am doing an install that may or may not go well, due to dependence on developers in Mumbai or Hyderabad.

Reply 29 of 52, post ID @25q+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 7
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@252 on top of that, the engineers that are pulling multiple all nighters at home for a deployment still risk losing their jobs if they do not scan in at an office for 3 days that week.

Reply 30 of 52, post ID @265+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 7
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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It’s not just about a badge swipe. It’s going to be hourly laptop pings confirming connection to the LAN to see how long you stay in the office, along with geofencing your phone. This is truly insidious work. Trust me. I’m the one creating the report.

Reply 31 of 52, post ID @267+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 7
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@264 Whatever you say Donald. Haven’t you been on the golf course half of the time yourself?

Reply 32 of 52, post ID @268+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 7
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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@265 they are not geofencing phones. I pay for my phone and service. Nowhere in the T&Cs does it state this for employees. If this was proven to be occurring, the company could get majorly fined. Company issued laptops are a different story. Your personal phones and service that you pay for - not happening.

Reply 33 of 52, post ID @269+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 7
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@269+1kpztp1hb

I have been retired a couple years. All I know is Costco, pickleball courts, coffee shops, Home Depot and everything else you can imagine have a lot more under 60 people at them, during normal weekday working hours. Before Covid, when I would take a vacation day during the week....most places were a ghost town. Not the case anymore. Either everyone is retired all a sudden, or something else is going on. I think you can do the math from here. This isn't just a T-Mobile thing either. Publicly traded companies that answer to shareholders are course correcting. And....AI is more than happy to do your job too.

Reply 34 of 52, post ID @26b+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 7
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 269
  • Reactions: 4 total, +2 / -2, net 0
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@26b+1kpztp1hb

@269 Probably your old coworkers that T-Mobile and other tech companies laid off that can’t find jobs. Must be nice to skate through Sprint for 40 years, retire and complain about others. Typical boomer behavior.

Reply 35 of 52, post ID @290+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 8
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 268
  • Reactions: 4 total, +1 / -3, net -2
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@290+1kpztp1hb

@268 You may pay for your phone, but as an employee you are not paying for your service. The free service comes with some hooks.

Reply 36 of 52, post ID @2aj+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 8
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 290
  • Reactions: 1 total, 0 / -1, net -1
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2aj+1kpztp1hb

@290 that is B S. Stop lying. I am in Network and this does not happen.

Reply 37 of 52, post ID @2bp+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 8
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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  • Reactions: 2 total, +1 / -1, net 0
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2bp+1kpztp1hb

Return-to-office (RTO) trends in 2026 are defined by tighter enforcement of hybrid models and a shift away from flexible, ad-hoc schedules toward mandatory 3-to-5 day in-office requirements. Despite worker reluctance, many major employers are utilizing badge-swipe tracking and expanding disciplinary action to ensure compliance.
Key RTO Trends Rise of the 4-to-5 Day Mandate: The standard 2-3 day hybrid model is evolving. Around 30% of organizations now require a full 5-day in-office week, while four-day requirements are steadily increasing.
The Era of "The Great Compliance": Unlike the past few years where return mandates led to massive pushback, a tightening job market has caused the percentage of workers willing to quit over RTO to drop to roughly 7%.
Stricter Badge-Swipe Tracking: Companies are actively using digital surveillance—such as badge-swipe data and location logins—rather than relying on trust to enforce required minimum office days.
Sector-Specific Stringency: The push is particularly aggressive in finance and tech. For example, prominent institutions like UBS have restricted remaining junior banker flexibilities, demanding 5-day attendance.
Disconnection & Morale Issues: Although compliance is up, continuous enforcement alongside organizational layoffs has contributed to a growing disconnect between executives prioritizing physical presence and employees valuing flexibility.

Reply 38 of 52, post ID @2da+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 9
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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  • Reactions: 2 total, +2 / 0, net +2
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2da+1kpztp1hb

I’m working my 40 hours and not a minute extra. Bo-m! 💥

Reply 39 of 52, post ID @2g2+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 9
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2bp
  • Reactions: 3 total, +3 / 0, net +3
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2g2+1kpztp1hb

@2bp okay. Be honest. If TMO really wants to implement back to office. They better make sure f..ing people scanning and going back. These Directors and VP knows who they are and not taking any action. This is 2 sets of standards. Get this f.. fix first and then ask other to RTO.

Reply 40 of 52, post ID @2hj+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 10
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2g2
  • Reactions: 3 total, +3 / 0, net +3
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2hj+1kpztp1hb

@2g2 I’ve seen plenty of directors and even a VP only spend a short amount of time in the office doing this same very thing. The hypocrisy of it all is astounding and yet somehow expected.

Reply 41 of 52, post ID @2pn+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 11
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2hj
  • Reactions: 1 total, +1 / 0, net +1
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2pn+1kpztp1hb

@2hj No one will be exempt from the reports that will be pulled. For those who think otherwise...FAFO

Reply 42 of 52, post ID @2qb+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 11
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2q5
  • Reactions: 6 total, +3 / -3, net 0
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2qb+1kpztp1hb

@2q5 I heard there are people at frisco and Bellevue who tested positive for hantavirus Friday. Protect yourself! If you are in an office wear a N 95 mask!

Reply 43 of 52, post ID @2r2+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 11
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2pn
  • Reactions: 0 total, 0 / 0, net 0
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2r2+1kpztp1hb

@2pn Pull what report. Person who comes, scan the badge and go will be always 3 days in the report. So what is the rule? scan and go or be in the office. My manager is next to me and I can’t scan and go. But, I see other team member does that.

Reply 44 of 52, post ID @2r7+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 11
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2q5
  • Reactions: 2 total, +2 / 0, net +2
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2r7+1kpztp1hb

@2q5 Saves money not having to lay people off. Code name Uncarrier 73.6.0.

Reply 45 of 52, post ID @2rw+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 11
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2r2
  • Reactions: 2 total, +2 / 0, net +2
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2rw+1kpztp1hb

@2r2 No longer just about badge scans. Time actually in the office will be captured to show how long the computer is active and on the office network each day. I'm sure some people will try to just park there computer on campus and leave. That behavior be sniffed out quickly.

Reply 46 of 52, post ID @2s6+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 11
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2rw
  • Reactions: 4 total, +3 / -1, net +2
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2s6+1kpztp1hb

@2rw I hope you are right, but I have not seen that in reality. Every month we are told by our manager that how many days each are in the office. NOT how long they are there. This is very frustrating for people who is actually in the office and other they CHEAT the system all the time. This needs to STOP now or other be flexible.

Reply 47 of 52, post ID @2tg+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 12
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: no post, opens a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 6 total, +6 / 0, net +6
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2tg+1kpztp1hb

The internal fighting that T-Mobile has created over who when and how long coworkers are in the office is lovely. They don’t need surveillance tools, just jealous tattletales or generally pi---d off peers. Great culture. [hash] we won’t stop

Reply 48 of 52, post ID @2v9+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 12
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 2tg
  • Reactions: 3 total, +3 / 0, net +3
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2v9+1kpztp1hb

@2tg Rules for thee and not me...has never worked long term. It creates an environment that no one likes and pits people against each other. Eventually either the rules change, or "everyone" is held to the same standard. Time will tell.
[hash]We won't stop

Reply 49 of 52, post ID @2vb+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 12
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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  • Reactions: 12 total, +5 / -7, net -2
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@2vb+1kpztp1hb

Bring it on. I want the lazy a$$es who have been milking the system for way too long, to at least have to pretend to be working 8 hours a day. At the end of the day, this is a management issue. People rise or fall based on what is expected from them.

Reply 50 of 52, post ID @31m+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 13
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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  • Reactions: 6 total, +2 / -4, net -2
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@31m+1kpztp1hb

RTO = dea th. Sreeney will k ill us all with the hantavirus epidemic. 🐀 🐀 🐀

Reply 51 of 52, post ID @31y+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 13
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 31m
  • Reactions: 2 total, +1 / -1, net 0
  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@31y+1kpztp1hb

@31m oh the d umba ss (who types like this) with the broken keyboard is back.

Reply 52 of 52, post ID @31z+1kpztp1hb

  • Date: May 13
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: 31y
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  • Address: https://www.thelayoff.com/p/@31z+1kpztp1hb

@31y h a h a h a h a


my 2 c

i really dont have anything to report but i can tell you that the amount of stress my team is going thru is tremendous.

i've never seen anything like this and i've been around 10+ years. i think the uncertainty is the biggest culprit here and on top of this everyone wants things to be done yesterday and we've lost people and the amount of work went up.

i dont think this can be sustained.


How do these layoffs actually work — whole teams cut or random people?

Curious if anyone here has been through a round of layoffs and can share how it actually played out. When companies say it's "cost cutting" or "moving jobs offshore" — is it usually the entire team/department that goes, or do they pick people out individually?

Also wondering if performance ratings really matter here, or if it's more about tenure, pay level, and role redundancy. Trying to get a realistic picture rather than just guessing.


Since "Open Thread for June 1st RTO" was deleted...

here is the archived version:

- TheLayoff.com archive: Edward Jones, "Open Thread for June 1st RTO:"

Complete capture of the deleted thread: the original post + all 43 replies, with
vote counts, reply rels... Full post text preserved verbatim.

  • Source: TheLayoff.com, board: Thread regarding Edward Jones layoffs
  • Thread ID: @1kt0n0jhf
  • Posts archived: 44 (1 original post, 43 replies)
  • Activity window: May 31 2026 to June 7 2026

Original post

Posted May 31 by IndiaJones, post ID @OP+1kt0n0jhf.

Here we go! Day one of ELT's move to get more of us to quit. Post your concerns, complaints, funny stories, frustrations, etc in this thread so we can keep the comment section active for our neighborhood ELT trolls who love to lurk here (they are useless anyway, so might as well give them something to do today). Good luck everyone, and enjoy the collaboration this week! 🤡

PS. r/st louis (edward jones) has a post from a few days ago that links this site if reddit is more your scene.


Full reply text, oldest first

Reply 1 of 43, post ID @bc+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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  • Reactions: 18 total, +13 / -5, net +8

Severe thunderstorms in St. Louis should make the commute challenging.

Reply 2 of 43, post ID @be+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: bc
  • Reactions: 18 total, +13 / -5, net +8

@bc they wouldn’t care if someone crashed. might like it too

Reply 3 of 43, post ID @bj+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: bc
  • Reactions: 33 total, +8 / -25, net -17

@bc Breaking News! It does rain on occasion!

Reply 4 of 43, post ID @bk+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: no post, starts a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 11 total, +9 / -2, net +7

Will penelope show her face today?

Reply 5 of 43, post ID @bv+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: bk
  • Reactions: 15 total, +12 / -3, net +9

@bk probably took one of our private jet rentals to some ribbon cutting ceremony she thinks she needs to be at

Reply 6 of 43, post ID @bx+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: no post, starts a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 24 total, +21 / -3, net +18

Look at all of those downvotes from the ELT crew and their cronies. They're at least doing something today.

Reply 7 of 43, post ID @by+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: no post, starts a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 66 total, +2 / -64, net -62

Guess who goes into the office 5 days a week, our colleagues in India! If you hate your job so much please quit. There are plenty of unemployed people who would love to drive to work this morning even in the rain.

Reply 8 of 43, post ID @c2+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Curious (self-chosen pseudonym)
  • In reply to: no post, starts a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 14 total, +3 / -11, net -8

How is it going? Us HBA are wondering. Parking good? Everyone find a seat? Any welcome back gifts for HBA that now come to office for first time on a regular basis?

Reply 9 of 43, post ID @c3+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Stop it (self-chosen pseudonym)
  • In reply to: c2
  • Reactions: 21 total, +14 / -7, net +7

@c2 Speak for yourself. No. Us HBA are not wondering. We are scared for them. Concerned. Sympathetic. Hoping they are all ok. But not wondering by any means… HBA = we don’t get the scoop. And we don’t need to feed their misery and make them feel worse.

Reply 10 of 43, post ID @c6+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: c2
  • Reactions: 13 total, +12 / -1, net +11

@c2 i take this as a genuine q from curious hba and will answer. No welcome or acknowledgment of RTO. Gifts? No. There’s a sign at the parking garage saying to try the other if full. I parked fine but arrived on early side.

Reply 11 of 43, post ID @c7+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: c6
  • Reactions: 7 total, +5 / -2, net +3

@c6 was there an expectation for gifts?

Reply 12 of 43, post ID @cd+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: by
  • Reactions: 15 total, +12 / -3, net +9

@by Absolutely do not quit. Make them fire you or lay you off. The market is terrible and they should have to cover unemployment and severance if they are insistent on replacing humans.

Reply 13 of 43, post ID @cp+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: by
  • Reactions: 12 total, +9 / -3, net +6

@by Do you enjoy boot leather for every meal?

Reply 14 of 43, post ID @cq+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: no post, starts a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 10 total, +9 / -1, net +8

Who was actually responsible for managing this RTO?

Reply 15 of 43, post ID @cr+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: cq
  • Reactions: 12 total, +10 / -2, net +8

@cq If (and when) it goes poorly, nobody will claim ownership of it.

Reply 16 of 43, post ID @cv+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: c7
  • Reactions: 7 total, +6 / -1, net +5

@c7 I don’t think so but hba asked about welcome back gifts so answered the q. Mayne like a mug, desk supplies. Stuff people get when they start

Reply 17 of 43, post ID @cy+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: c3
  • Reactions: 56 total, +10 / -46, net -36

@c3 what the he-l happened to people in the last 5 years? Having to go into the office after working at home does kind of su-k. But good grief! You aren’t going to war. I commuted to work for decades before wfh. Took trains, cars and, hold on to your hats, buses to get to the office in each city I lived in. Sometimes the weather was inclement. Sometimes there was traffic. Sometimes I had to watch out for pick pockets on crowded trains and buses. It’s called navigating the real world and you will get through it. It’s character building. Once you conquer driving to work, there will be no stopping you! You might even get up the nerve to go to the post office. Let the down votes rain down. Oh sorry! I didn’t mean to trigger you by mentioning rain 🤣

Reply 18 of 43, post ID @cz+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: cr
  • Reactions: 10 total, +9 / -1, net +8

@cr oh so you're familiar with Suzie McDemon?

Reply 19 of 43, post ID @d0+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: cy
  • Reactions: 18 total, +14 / -4, net +10

@cy Another sad post from an ELT member or professional bootlicker that just doesn't get it.

Reply 20 of 43, post ID @d5+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Raging Against the Machine (self-chosen pseudonym)
  • In reply to: no post, starts a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 20 total, +19 / -1, net +18

Did anyone else just not go into the office today? I did and my boss who is HBA said he didn’t care.

Reply 21 of 43, post ID @d6+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: by
  • Reactions: 26 total, +21 / -5, net +16

@by JFC you people and your obsession with your 3rd world slave labor is disgusting. You have completely exposed yourself as a complete out of touch mo--n. You must ELT or GP status to come up with such brilliant statement! You know why there are so many unemployed right now? Because d!ckheads like you and your ilk layoff 1 american and replace them with 3 dodgy indian contractors so you can pad the bottom line record profits some more. A special place in he-l for ghouls like you.

Reply 22 of 43, post ID @d7+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: cy
  • Reactions: 26 total, +22 / -4, net +18

@cy Take my downvote and my response to your short sighted boomer mindset, you absolute walnut. The only thing missing was a story about walking to school in the snow...Do me a favor, turn your A/C off tonight and dont turn it back on. Your nasty hateful menopausal a-s will not last. You know why? Because AC was invented to help make life easier and once you take it away after having it, life su-ks. Once you see a better way of doing thing, you dont go back to the old ways if the new way works! That would be insane. Maybe you having some heat stroke will build some character, am I right?? The reason you had to take trains and long commutes was because you had to. There was no other way to work, we found a better way to work with remote work and the only people who hate it are micro managers and commercial real estate. HBA was benefit that offset the cr-p pay and cr-p health insurance. It being taken away is now a paycut for us with nothing to offset it with other than threats of layoffs. Then, you factor in everything else this nasty lying POS group called ELT has done and it is the final nail in the coffin. A great betrayal, and you think it's just about driving in the rain? This is how I know you are a d-mb person, you couldn't even take 5 seconds to look at the big picture. You mostly are ELT now that I think about it. Every study done on this RTO topic shows it as a failure, and ELT has decided to move forward anyway. Dummies

Reply 23 of 43, post ID @dj+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: by
  • Reactions: 22 total, +19 / -3, net +16

@by Are you serious, you absolute Troll? Our "colleagues " in India do NOT go in to work 5 days a week! Many work from home a couple of days and yes they are handling sensitive client information in their kitchen half the time with family chatting all day long in the background. ELT you outed yourself by calling them colleagues. I hope you get the company fined with the lax protocols you all put in place.

Reply 24 of 43, post ID @dt+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: dj
  • Reactions: 19 total, +15 / -4, net +11

@dj The sad part is they really think they are "winning" and on the right side of history. Or, they know they know they have wrecked this company and now have to go into panic/attack mode as this ship takes on more water.

Reply 25 of 43, post ID @en+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: no post, starts a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 36 total, +33 / -3, net +30

I've worked late at night, I've worked weekends. I've gotten up at 5 am and answered questions from India. Yes, it's summer break and I took my kid to lunch and then worked longer at the end of the day. Or I took a break and volunteered in my kids classroom and worked later. I have loved this company and stayed loyal without good pay because of this family oriented approach. In the past Edward Jones has given me time with my child. Time I will never get back and I appreciate beyond words. In return I gave you my loyalty and hard work. My dedication to getting the job done no matter when or what time because I believed in the company. I referred family members to Jones because I was confident they would be served well.
You horrible ELT people getting $20 mill a year clearly don't value loyalty or knowledge. To say I am devastated is not enough. I want you fu--s to know I have enough money to retire right now. I came back to the office to make you fire me you stupid fu--s. I am literally doing this right now to pi-s you off because you people don't have a conscious or sense of loyalty. Bring it.
.

Reply 26 of 43, post ID @ey+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Curious (self-chosen pseudonym)
  • In reply to: c6
  • Reactions: 5 total, +5 / 0, net +5

@c6 thank you.

Reply 27 of 43, post ID @ez+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 1
  • Author: Curious (self-chosen pseudonym)
  • In reply to: cv
  • Reactions: 8 total, +6 / -2, net +4

@cv exactly. Was a real question. Example for 100 year celebrations they had shirts, hats, etc. was wondering if they had something like that. Thanks.

Reply 28 of 43, post ID @h2+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 2
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: dj
  • Reactions: 12 total, +11 / -1, net +10

@dj and Edward Jones is not their only employer. They work multiple full time jobs at once.

Reply 29 of 43, post ID @hb+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 2
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: no post, starts a new line of discussion
  • Reactions: 26 total, +25 / -1, net +24

Honest question: Has anyone seen a positive outcome from a single ER initiative?

They touted faster speed, less layers/bureaucracy, more culture and collaboration, efficiency, etc., but I have not seen a single positive result. I'm trying to look at it objectively, but I just don't see it.

So, if there wasn't a single public/enterprise benefit, it's a private benefit (to them and their own goals/agenda).

Reply 30 of 43, post ID @hh+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 2
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: hb
  • Reactions: 19 total, +18 / -1, net +17

@hb Every single thing they have touched has turned into a dumpster fire. Not one thing has improved for this company because of them, we are moving in the wrong direction. This RTO thing will be another giant fail when not enough people quit and they have to go back to classic layoffs. Our reputation around st.louis is tanking and the only thing we have going for us is an AI market bubble to hide all the damage.

Reply 31 of 43, post ID @hj+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 2
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: en
  • Reactions: 38 total, +36 / -2, net +34

@en Everyone in the office looks tired, checked out, and annoyed. Even high up leaders I see try very hard to put on the fake coporate act, but they also look like the pressure and stress is getting to them. Something is horribly wrong with this company and it's being kept a secret.

Reply 32 of 43, post ID @hv+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 2
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: hb
  • Reactions: 17 total, +16 / -1, net +15

@hb You know what is funny? We rip ELT to shreds here (because they took away our surveys) and demand answers or even sometimes honestly ask them to defend their positions. I'd be willing to have a civil debate with them, but they can't even do that! Like a petty dictator, they want to shut down all the people who question things or use logic to debate them. All they have is either some boomer talking point like "we worked 5 days in office back in my day, you need to do it too! Or "Stop complaining, quit if you don't like it!". That is it, that's all they have! They hit the down vote arrow and scurry away like a little rodent. It's annoying and down right pathetic. So I say again, where are my ELT fans at? Tell us what great things you have done here that make you deserve the millions in your paycheck?

Reply 33 of 43, post ID @jg+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 2
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: hjn
  • Reactions: 7 total, +6 / -1, net +5

@hjn, I give this place 6 months then a BIG bo-b to drop!

Reply 34 of 43, post ID @nb+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 3
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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Anybody in office get the free breakfast this morning? How was it?

Reply 35 of 43, post ID @p0+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 3
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: nb
  • Reactions: 9 total, +8 / -1, net +7

@nb nope. I'm not eating their slop for a photo op. Breakfast was still paid for us out of the bottom line, not like penny used her own bank account for those powdered eggs lol

Reply 36 of 43, post ID @q3+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 3
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: nb
  • Reactions: 13 total, +11 / -2, net +9

@nb It wasn't a breakfast. It was 3/4 cup yogurt with several toppings and up to 4 mini quiches the size of a quarter. It was a poor attempt at bribery.

Reply 37 of 43, post ID @q7+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 3
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: q3
  • Reactions: 4 total, +2 / -2, net 0

@q3 and probably gave everyone that had it the sh!ts. Nothing works correctly around here, even breakfast we find a way to sc--w up

Reply 38 of 43, post ID @r9+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 4
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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We are going to be late and leaving early..fire us all but we will fall into old patterns and so will you. The poor TLs are now hallway monitors and supposed to drive production?

Reply 39 of 43, post ID @ra+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 4
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: d7
  • Reactions: 4 total, +4 / 0, net +4

@d7 sound like the author grew up near NY in my opinion

Reply 40 of 43, post ID @xm+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 5
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: ra
  • Reactions: 14 total, +14 / 0, net +14

@ra and if given a choice between having a horrible commute and cr-p work environment VS Work From Home (back in their day) I bet a million dollars all these people would have taken the WFH option. That's what makes alll this RTO so damn stupid. It is counter intuitive to human nature. If you find a better way to live/work and increase happiness, why in the he-l would you go back to the old way that 99% of workers hate, and have the data to show that it isn't more productive to RTO. It is the opposite!

Reply 41 of 43, post ID @zf+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 5
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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The whole goal of RTO is to make people so miserable that they quit. Less future layoffs if you just quit. I feel for everybody who did not get out. I also realize the job market is very tough for all of us. Praying for the strength that you all will need to keep doing your job.

Reply 42 of 43, post ID @13x+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 6
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
  • In reply to: zf
  • Reactions: 13 total, +12 / -1, net +11

@zf Amazing that ELT and pEnn3y really think they are on the right side of history with this "transformation". Everyone I've talked to the last few weeks about this place are horrified that our squeaky clean down home mid western value company is being destroyed from within by people who think it's funny to make single parent households lose sleep over their ret@rded @$$ backward sinister policies these last 18 months. Will someone from ELT (or one of the bootlickers) please show me the data where a company has had success by sh!tting all over the people that work there and gutting the entire culture that made the company unique? I'll wait...

Reply 43 of 43, post ID @17p+1kt0n0jhf

  • Date: June 7
  • Author: Anonymous (site default byline)
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  • Reactions: 9 total, +8 / -1, net +7

Definitely burning some sick days this summer and doing bare minimum work while job hunting. This place is nothing more than a toxic shitho!e run by mo--ns and hateful nasty women

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