Anyone else think the current COA metrics and stipulations are a joke? From my perspective, the expectations feel misaligned with the operational realities many recruiters are facing.
I genuinely appreciate the hard work and dedication of our top performers. However, I think it’s important to acknowledge that some of those team members have access to additional resources—such as administrative support—that significantly reduce their non-recruiting workload. Other recruiters are expected to meet similar performance standards while also managing administrative responsibilities independently. This creates a perception of inequity across the team.
Historically, many tenured recruiters managed large principal headcounts—often 60–80 coa—without additional support and while serving as the sole point of contact. Those titles were earned through sustained performance under challenging conditions. While compensation structures and business models have evolved, the current expectations combined with reduced support and compensation pressures are contributing to morale concerns.
There also appears to be inconsistency in how resources are allocated. Concentrating support around select individuals may drive strong results for a few, but it can unintentionally limit broader team growth and development. A more balanced distribution of resources could potentially create stronger, more sustainable performance across the organization.
Additionally, low level recruiters continue to absorb responsibilities outside of traditional recruiting scope—particularly in areas where ownership of process and payroll has shifted. When placement teams are not fully owning those processes, recruiters are often required to fill the gap. This increases workload without a corresponding adjustment in expectations or compensation.
Finally, I believe leadership alignment and transparency are critical during times of change. There are individuals within recruitment who bring deep institutional knowledge and strong operational leadership. Ensuring that the right leaders are empowered to guide strategy and execution will be important for long-term success. There needs to be advocating for equity, clarity in expectations, and a structure that supports both high performance and team-wide growth. The recruitment team deserves a win not more unrealistic goals thrown up against the wall hoping it sticks.
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Went in thinking I was going to get a raise, ended up laid off. Crazy bait and switch by CDK Global.
Layoffs are happening, I wonder how many more people are getting the boot.
Old Boys Network
Gen X female here…
The “old boys network” doesn’t refer to us all being se-----y as--ulted or discriminated against.
It was a time where the focus was sports and the athlete and grit.
It was before we offshored everything to folks that know nothing about our company and want to su-k us dry. You get what you pay for.
It was before we had to hire the coddled generations where everyone gets a trophy and is addicted to the slack alt pages and cries over not having a succession plan.
It was where we made money hand over fist.
Not sure we can get back to that with the leaders and employees we have now. Bunch of soft bi--hes. Come at me…..
Remotes ARE being trageted for layoffs now..
I've posted about this a few times and get downvoted/laughed at but I'm telling you, full remotes are being targeted now. It was only a matter of time... Dell has made it blatantly clear that they want ALL employees local to an office - as in ALL employees go INTO an office - and that remotes are not eligible for promotions or internal movement. Which puts remotes in a literal dead end job. I 100% guarentee they will cap remotes raises to 2% and 50% bonus's sooner than later, as well.
I had my 1x1 w/ my boss/sr director the other day and I asked what the IBP was. He didn't know for sure but, mentioned he laid off a few people (3) under him and saw the bonus payout for them - which was 100% - but, stated that they were all remotes and that was the primary driving factor for laying them off.
According to what he told me, those 3 were good at their job but was told by higher ups and/or HR to remove 3 remotes that reported to him. I didn't know any of them as they weren't on my team but, long story short.. .they were laid off for being remote.
We have a great relationship with each other so I asked out of curiosity if remotes are being targeted more for layoffs. He didn't say yes or no but in a round about way basically said that yes they are, and has heard from execs that the "plan" is to reduce raises and bonus's for them next year. Basically an attempt to force resignation. Exceptions will likely be made for those who are incredibly vital to an org but otherwise, the plan is to slowly get rid of remotes.
If you are full remote but live near enough to an office, I'd recommend switching your sh-t to in office versus remote... Make the drive or relocate if you value your job because remotes are the ones who will be first to go on teams when layoffs happen.
From the manager's guide for dealing with RTO
Use this guide to help you manage team members who are not meeting the expectations of the office work goal and who are in a hub location. Holding your team members accountable to this goal is one of the expectations of your People Leader Goal. You should seek further guidance from HR Advisory Services (HRAS) if coaching the employee as described in this guide doesn’t result in improvement.
Note: This People Leader resource provides guidance regarding ongoing performance management relating to the office work goal. For information relating to the office work goal in relation to the year-end performance review process, please refer to our Measuring performance: People Leader resource.
Details
As a leader, we trust you to lead your teams with empathy while ensuring you set clear and consistent expectations. Be mindful that the office work goal may be challenging for some. Listen and provide the guidance needed for your team to achieve their office work goal.
U.S.: As a reminder, medical accommodations or flexible work arrangements may be applicable depending on the reason someone is not fulfilling the office work goal.
Europe: For leaders with team members in Europe, approved flexible/remote work arrangements and exceptions may also be applicable depending on the reason someone is not fulfilling the office work goal.
You have access to a dashboard to see how frequently your team members come into the office. This data should be considered, among other factors, when assessing team members’ performance with respect to the office work goal, such as observations of a team member’s work location (in person or via Teams video), vacation, illness, work travel, etc. For more information regarding the dashboard and its metrics, see the people leader resource.
Considerations
When using the dashboard to assess your team member’s in-office work, you are expected to assess the full picture of their performance, collaboration, and in-office presence, including but not limited to the following considerations:
Timing. When was the office work goal in effect for your team member? Because hub transitions are taking place on a rolling basis, team members should only be held accountable to the goal once they have an assigned work location and are directed to work onsite three or more days per week.
Absences. Was your team member on vacation, sick and safe leave (SSL), or an approved leave of absence (continuous or intermittent) during the relevant time period? Don’t count approved absences against your team member.
Note: team members on an approved leave of absence are excluded from the dashboard while on leave.
Work travel. Did your team member travel for business during the relevant time period? Don’t count work travel against your team member, even if they weren’t working from a U.S. Bank location.
Flexible work arrangement (FWA)/reasonable accommodation (U.S.). Did your team member have an approved flexible work arrangement or reasonable accommodation that allows them to work from the office less frequently or not at all during the relevant time? If your team member’s in-office work (or lack thereof) is consistent with an approved FWA or reasonable accommodation, they are meeting their office work goal.
Note: Team members on an approved FWA or remote work reasonable accommodation and their badge swipe data are excluded from the dashboard while the FWA or reasonable accommodation is in effect.
Approved flexible/remote work arrangement or exception (Europe). Did your team member have a flexible/remote work arrangement or exception request approved that allows them to work from the office less frequently or not at all during the relevant period? If your team member’s in-office work (or lack thereof) is in line with such approved requests, they are meeting their office work goal.
Short-term need. Has your team member requested a short-term need to work remotely? You can approve short-term exceptions (up to two weeks) to the office work goal without additional documentation or approval (for example, a mild illness that does not prevent them from working remotely, temporary transportation challenge, other personal issues, etc.).
Other. Was the team member using a temporary badge or are there other reasons the data in the dashboard may not be accurate?
Annual review
Is it against the law to be given your annual review via video to me and I had to sit in the middle of a room with other workers around me who heard the entire thing? I was not given the opportunity for any privacy at all. Everyone heard the entire review. It was embarrassing.
Supervisor’s Holiday PTO Reminder or Possible Implication About Post‑Review Layoffs?
All employees receive three 8‑hour holiday days each year. My supervisor advised me to use all three, and mentioned that if I don’t use them, I will lose them. I’m unsure whether she was simply reminding me about the policy or implying something else, such as a possible layoff, by encouraging me to use the remaining holiday hours.
What do you think she was trying to say?
2026 Goals
Anyone get their goals? Why are there so many? This isn’t manageable. I don’t get what any of them have to do with me. Create 10% digital employees, reduce night shift by 75%. Um I don’t have staff, and I don’t work night shift. I’m assuming night shift is Pune and we only have 1 person. How is 75% reduction possible and why do I care? I’m already doing their work. You already took my staff and gave them to Pune. D-mbest firm ever! I guess they are gearing up for another 10% layoff!
Women’s History Month Kickoff call
Why is a man leading this call? All you can see is his face on the screen. He is controlling the dialogue and trying to relate to women’s experiences. So sad UHC and Optum. But typical of this company.
2025 STI 401k contribution
I had set up a 6% 401k contribution on my bonus payout to get the full company match. However, the 2025 STI payout paycheck doesn't have any 401k deduction. Therefore, I am guessing there won't be a company match. Anyone else seeing this? I have reached out to HR via email for clarification.
It’d be funny if it weren’t sad
So many people getting bent out of shape, and for what? No layoffs. There’s a lesson in there somewhere.
Leader duming even more stock
There are now even more SEC filings showing our leaders are dumping even more stock. They keep telling us that we're one team and that we need to sacrifice while at the same time they are selling millions of dollars worth of stock. A huge Fu-k You to the employees.
Service Now employee RIF
Heard there was a large chunk of users primarily former allina people gutted. Anyone know if it went beyond them?
Does Dell give time to move internally ?
If your name is picked for layoffs, can you ask if you can get some time to try out applications for other teams ?
I know that FAANG has this policy. Curious if Dell does too.
This might help those who cannot get jobs elsewhere or might not want to relocate.
Agentic AI at PayPal
Does anyone know what we can expect from Agentic AI in PayPal in the next 12 to 24 months in terms of it's capabilities? I understand Lores is fully focused on Agentic AI and will likely use it to reduce the workforce like he has done at HP.
I'm not interested in what you've read from AI regarding Agentic AI as I've done that myself. If possible, I would like to hear from someone within the company who has been working with Agentic AI at PayPal or who knows what the general plans are? For example, will it handle 40% of disputes/limitations/fraud claims in 12 months.
Really curious as Lloyds bank announced this month they will be using Agentic AI for complex fraud and complaints reviews. With the advancement of Agentic AI, PayPal's desire for lightning fast changes and Lores's enthusiasm for Agentic AI and cuts, big changes could be on the way very soon. gulp
Quality
Has the Quality of Employees gone up, down or not changed?
What Cisco (and other companies) do not want you to realize
The abuse, pressure and threats of layoffs are intended to keep you locked into a victim mentality.
They don't want you to realize that in most cases, software services you work on can now be vide-coded and released as competition or simply given away. A lot of this stuff just implements well-known standards or is otherwise not protected through IP law or non-competes. You are still locked into a mindset that because this software was hard to produce five years ago, it is hard to produce now. It isn't.
If you were to suggest Codex or Claude vibe-rewriting bitrotted Cisco tech-debt code, most of your coworkers would sneer and ignore you, and management would put you on "a list". But right now, this is actually something that can be done. If it can be done now, what will the world be like in six months, a year?
Cisco wants you to think using AI is only something you can do in service to them, not yourself.
Get ready, other people in this world are not locked in to your victim psychology.
Anyone seeing layoffs instead of transfers for FS and Pharmacy employees at closing stores?
At an Oregon CVS pharmacy where we were told we would have no issue keeping our jobs if the store closed. When it was announced, RxDL and FSDL both told respective staffs no one would lose their job. But due to market acquisition of Rite Aid stores, we have too many people (supposedly) and now we are being threatened with layoffs. Anyone seeing this in their area too?
She reported it to HR — what the lawsuit alleges happened next was far worse
A federal lawsuit accuses AT&T of failing to address explicit content in a workplace group chat — then retaliating when the employee spoke up.
https://www.hcamag.com/us/specialization/employment-law/att-employee-sues-over-explicit-images-in-workplace-group-chat/565210
M@rk, you are blind
M@rk, please wake up and see who is running this company:
Your head of HR is an emperor with no clothes.
Your CFO is a washed up hack that does not develop people and is coasting. He also does not live our values.
Your head of IT is in WAY over her head and was a salesperson before she arrived here.
You need change. Why can’t you see it? The entire organization and Elliott does. And, yes, we all discuss it.
You have lost the confidence of your people. When you came in you gave us hope, but your leadership selections are ruining this company.
Annual Evaluations
How are y'all's evaluations looking if you got a write up last year? Is it affecting your raise in non union shops?
No pay rise for 2026
Wah wah Capgemini Group decision
Wah wah wah bad market
Wah wah wah microsoft aws redundancies
A pshpoor implementation od SuccessFactors
More AI slop
Wah wah wah more like they didnt want to make France feel alone in its misery
Mr. Bull... more like Bullsh*t
Town Hall 2/25
This witch SM is having her Town Hall and is putting me to sleep. What a waste of company time
Accenture Canada places 200 employees on redeployment.
Hearing some wild news from a former colleague out of the Canadian Federal group today.
Apparently, a massive engagement was terminated or paused effective immediately, sending 200+ people back to the bench overnight.
Looks like Leadership is keeping the details tight-lipped. Anyone know if this is a sign of broader public sector budget cuts or just a specific project imploding? Seems like a huge hit even for a firm this size.
Terrible Pay Rise/Bonus Again...
Another year, another slap in the face.
This year they are citing poor share price, poor USD to GBP exchange rate and increased head count due to acquisitions.
Surely acquiring new companies brings the revenue from those companies... If that revenue is so poor the rest of SS&C has to cannibalise their rewards to properly them up then something is wrong...
Also, every quarter this year we have beat EPS revenue and profit according to the earnings calls and also reduced debt.
I bet Stone and Rahul still got their ever increasing pound of flesh while the rest of us get stuffed!
Why not offer VRP to everyone who qualify?
There are no roles that can’t be back filled so why not take volunteers to assist in the mission of reducing workforce. Many would take it and be gone already.
Vacation and Severance
To those that have already been removed from payroll, how long did it take to receive your vacation and severance payments after your last day of work? My last day was 2/20. I see the new paystub generated for this week, but it's only for five days of work. I signed the severance agreement the first possible day it was available (15 days prior to off payroll date). Just curious what the timeline looks like. Thanks!
First Brands Group Closes Kansas Plants, Over 200 Jobs Lost
First Brands Group, LLC is closing two manufacturing facilities in Kansas. This action impacts 211 workers across sites in Emporia and Edgerton. The company previously filed for bankruptcy in fall 2025. Federal prosecutors indicted two brothers for allegedly defrauding lenders. Local Kansas communities are now mobilizing support for affected employees.
https://www.ksn.com/news/business/layoffs-impact-hundreds-of-manufacturing-workers-in-kansas/
The idea that layoffs target low performers is a myth
It's frustrating when people claim layoffs are about performance. My whole department, from the VP down, got cut in the last round. We had strong reviews and bonuses to show for it. Sometimes it's just pure cost cutting with zero regard for who actually does good work. Spreading that performance narrative just kicks people when they're already down.
Strada Payroll Access Leavers
Can any kind soul remaining in the he-l of BNY access this link and share the Strada link? Thank you.
https://mysource.bny.net/static-assets/hr/pdf2/Strada-Payroll-Access-Leavers.pdf
Layoffs
If you believe the layoffs are less than 20%, then either you’re seriously misinformed or you’re not actually working at Qualcomm.
And if you’ve been here for more than 10 years, be careful- you could be in trouble.
Bonus Payout - Alumni Class of 25
Is there a way to see what the bonus payout will be for a former employee? I'm not seeing it on the HR Access site, but could just be missing it.
Crocodile tears
Regarding Kevin's meeting and the effort he's making for employees. Kevin just sold $1,000,000 worth of stock. Do not trust them. They are trying to keep you productive up until they can discard you.
Do managers get reports about their direct reports time at the office?
Based on the other thread seems like it’s possible, although not sure if only HR can view that or if managers get that report as well. Any managers here can confirm or refute this?
STI changes
Does anyone know what changes are being made to the STI program for 2026? The communication sent to managers makes it sound like negative things are headed our way.
Divya having gratitude, Srini telling ppl to deliver or not bother coming to work
Thank you for all that you’ve done! Here are your impossible deadlines, and here’s your Meets Expectations. For some, here is your pip instead of layoffs with packages
Layoffs 2/26
Will layoffs definitely happen 2/26? Is this the last round for the “2,000 employees”? Does anyone have any insight on which areas?