#career

I remember when getting hired here felt like a true start of a real career. You could move into different roles, get regular raises, earn promotions, and actually believe you'd have a future here. People stayed because there was something worth staying for. These days, that kind of loyalty doesn't seem to mean much to leadership.

Looking back, taking a job at Verizon is one of the few career decisions I genuinely regret. There are plenty of better places to work, so don't convince yourself this is your only option.

Pretty much exactly what the title says. I know someone who just got a bachelors in exercise science who's trying to look for a job. The Fidelity base closest to me has a gym, so I thought to refer him to a job there as a trainer. How can I do that as someone who does not work at Fidelity anymore? Are the people who work at the gym Fidelity employees themselves, or do they come in from some other way of employment? Thanks!

Columbia College Chicago has eliminated two career advisor positions as part of recent staff layoffs. The Career Center will continue to offer its full range of services to students. Leadership team members will now assist with advising, leveraging their extensive experience. While two advisors were let go, the remaining staff are trusted to support all students. The college emphasizes its commitment to student career development despite these changes.

Chicago, Illinois

https://columbiachronicle.com/campus/columbia-eliminates-two-career-advisor-positions-in-recent-staff-layoffs/

for you to wait around for things to improve. They won't.

The job market is improving. Do not wait for the company to force your hand.

Hi everyone. Chevron India is paying better and treats us much better. Apply today. They are looking to hire more of us from BTC.

https://careers.chevron.com/india

https://careers.chevron.com/location/bengaluru-jobs/35016/1269750-1267701-1277333/4

Dear Cisconians, this is the first time in my long career that I have left the company without having secured another job. The moral decline is inevitable. I was part of it; I started doing the absolute minimum and found that I could still deliver the same or better results than 90% of my colleagues. One day a manager will blabber about "Cisco Values," only to completely disregard them the next day. Good people are leaving, while the mediocre ones stay and play politics and produce AI slop. With every fu--ing layoff, more and more people start to pretending activities, commenting on tickets, pushing spreadsheets, and organizing meetings... Only a minimum number of people are getting promoted; it is a complete career disaster, and the longer you stay, the more your salary is behind the actual labor market. Good luck to you!

On an earlier thread several asked for a repost of content paraphrased below:

For a career at the company, your performance vector has to be a net positive for 20 or 30 years. You can go up and down a bit around the middle bucket and be ok as long as you work hard and are diligent and a team player.

But if you drop and stay in lowest two buckets for more than two - four assessment cycles you should be concerned over perceptions of the perceived baggage you now carry as a perceived low relative performer longer term, as the unconscious bias of your rankers is very difficult to overcome.

With that backdrop, after the 2020 8-10 % MLRP program followed by 4q20 15 % voluntary and involuntary; there is net exodus of roughly 23 - 25 percent of your peer / ranking group on gross average in many instances.

So... what this now means to you is...In 5 months from now in May 2021 there is probably to be rationally expected between another 3-10 % MLRP program on top of this reduction in 2020.

So the end result in June of 2021 is roughly 26 - 35 % of your peers in your current rank group are no longer present after next rank cycle in 2021. Probably most of them that will have left the company populating the “ni” and “good” designated lower two quintiles.

So after May 2021 the ranking system and the math both requires any remaining ”Goods” to become “NI” or “NSI” and many “very goods” have to either become “Goods” and “NI” to make the math work on the forced rankings with quintile buckets still required.

Then fast forward and replay this into May 2022 - assume no layoffs but anything between a 3-10% MLRP process consistent with what happened this year.

If you think you are “very good” now you truly really are , but in the relative world of next rank cycles, on a relative ranking basis the “very goods” must have to mostly now become mostly “NI” and a some “goods” in just less than 18 months from now.

Math and forced rankings are hard to overcome the actual reality of how the game evolves for anyone ranked less than 50% because the usual 5–7-year progression of falling to lower quintile and outcome is now accelerated in the last year by the 23-25 % real reduction that occurred this year and another 3-10% that would potentially be exposed to MLRP and PIP in May 2021.

It is brutal system when expressed mathematically.

Best of luck with all future endeavors.

Any current “very goods” please really note , you are now at best “ni” or “good” in lowest two quintiles right now today as we step into next ranking cycle.

Don’t get mad at your bosses when they tell you this, just say you are smart and understand math. Don’t make them uncomfortable personally because they also know and disagree with the math, but they can’t say they disagree with the math.

It is what it is... no use being an a..hole when everyone knows math is math.

Have a financial plan already in play and always have other options in play. There is no long term loyalty so be the boss of your own destiny.

And you must unfortunately fully understand that when you drop into the bottom 25-30 percent there is really no recovery for you to have long-term career with the company.

It is sad to have to write this guidance. It was not like this 15 years ago.

Keep technical skills current and avoid going management track where most of your technical skills will become obsolete in 2-5 years.

How can I get in the gravy train?

Starting to look heavily externally and here are some of my learnings so far.

• It’s a tough market. You better be applying to roles where it’s a 1:1, meaning you can definitely do that role or are very experienced. Unfortunately not the time for a career pivot if you’re unhappy with the work you do.

• In situations where I have successfully got an interview (3x in the last couple of years when I’ve just passively applied), I have had strong referrals.

This last one is more just something I do.

• Put yourself out there in the 3D world. Go to the career fair or external networking event. I’m willing to bet a lot of people can sympathize with the experience of working at a company with such low morale and poor leadership.

What am I missing? What would you add? I’m serious about getting the he-l out of here in the near future.

A lot of people stay in jobs they don’t enjoy because they’re financially tied to them, even if they dislike what they do every day.

Lots of friends in the tech industry. They all laugh at me when i bring up my job. I feel embarrassed.

Instead, I'm free. First time I've ever quit a job without a backup plan, but I was so done working three jobs for the pay of one. I feel lighter already.

Two years in and this has been the worst stretch of my career. Happy anniversary to me.

No Matter How Good You Are. If you are in a wrong place, you become truly worthless. Take it easy and move on. World is Big and You will win soon.
All the Best

Source: M. Gray

1. Learn Storytelling

Storytelling is the highest intangible ROI skill you can learn

Sales, hiring, marketing, it's all storytelling.

Start with basic storytelling frameworks (e.g. the Hero's Journey) and the 7 fundamental emotions.

And watch how listeners turn into believers.

1. Rethink Health

Everything changed for me when I came across Symbiotic Success:

Your health directly affects achievement, even if you can't see it.

Now I prioritize meditation, lifting weights and nutrition.

Success is a game of longevity and health is your competitive moat.

1. Work Like a Lion

Society has conditioned us to work like we're cows grazing.

Low focus.
Long hours.
Minimal output.

Instead, work less, but work like a hunting lion.

Sprint. Rest. Repeat.

1. Find Your Peak Energy State

Optimal hours, environment, and work style differ for everyone.

Keep experimenting until you find your most productive state, when you don't have to fight yourself to get stuff done.

Once you find it, energy flows where your focus will be.

1. Learn to Communicate Concisely

Most people's emails and messages are full of fluff:

'Hope you're well!'
'I just wanted to ask...'
'Could we circle back on...'

Stop.

Be concise and get to the point, your value increases with the effort your readers save.

1. Be Happy for Other People's Successes

It's a positive-sum world out there; there are 22 million millionaires in the US alone.

Recognize that one person's success isn't your failure and offer genuine congratulations.

Joy for others manifests future accolades for you.

1. Be Boring

A lot of success comes from just saying no to cheap dopamine.

And instead, focusing on the mundane:

• Maximizing sleep
• Guarding time for workouts
• Not eating out in favor of your nutritious diet

Boring's the secret the successful don’t want you to know.

Bankrupt with in a year , don't let this fail company give tunnel vision
Reinvent your self, get a better job,start a small business is a whole world out there with a better life .
Is time to fly and you know it.
Fear nothing!!
P.S. fudge flu shorts what a scam

I get it, they will not be promoted. We don’t want them over us. But that doesn't mean they have to leave. Just take the paycheck, be quiet, and don’t ask for a career. That’s not too much to ask. Like promotes like, we only promote what looks like us, sorry…

Did anyone over 50 land a new job after being layed off from this stellar company??
If so, how long did it take you and how did you do it.
Lenovo gave us this free career placement LHH but I find it boring and of no value.

Hundreds of job seekers attended a career expo in Memphis, seeking new opportunities amidst significant job losses in Shelby County. The event featured fifty employers offering on-site interviews to address a growing need for employment. Organizers reported a strong turnout, with many individuals eager to find work. This expo aimed to provide hope and career advancement for those affected by recent layoffs. Job seekers can still find assistance at the American Job Center.

Memphis, TN

https://www.actionnews5.com/2026/08/27/ready-work-job-fair-draws-hundreds-amid-memphis-area-layoffs/

Forget engineering and join legal. It's dynamic and creative, they are busy but well compensated. Cisco has developed this competency like no other company and this tells you a lot about the direction of the company - extract and protect is the mantra nowadays. Lawyers are not better than engineers, but here at Cisco they can thrive just because that's the game nowadays.

Curious to what people have done to successfully find employment elsewhere. Does LinkedIn really work? I see a lot of job postings on there, but also lots of applicants. Are recruiter/head hunters still the best route? What has worked and what hasn't. Thanks in advance and hope for helpful responses.

Dear Shell employees, please l will like to get some advice from current and former Shell employees. Shell has been my dream company to work for and l am thinking of pursuing a career with Shell. Please any advice whether it’s a good choice based on the constant layoffs l have been hearing from this site?

Widespread corporate layoffs are prompting many individuals to consider significant career changes. These job reductions, driven by factors like AI advancements and restructuring, are pushing workers to evaluate their transferable skills and identify new opportunities. A successful transition involves researching job market demand, acquiring necessary new skills, and making a strategic move for long-term stability. While some may need immediate income, developing a thoughtful long-term career plan is crucial. Many professionals can leverage existing experience in new fields rather than starting over at an entry-level position.

https://www.wftv.com/contributor/rising-corporate/EC7T2E6WFUYB5MUMKFCSEQHAVY/

In TRM and part of risk - my game with BNY ended today. Was. Good stint for 14 years. But have no regrets.

Most people here have been here for years. We joined when the rules were different, when loyalty meant something and a job was for life. Then the rules changed, and for those of us well into our careers, that's been hard to accept. But new hires came in knowing they'll move around and are not afraid to quit after a year or two. It's funny, it's the same company, but completely different mindsets.

I wish somebody had warned me about this before I joined. I came here with hope and now I'm desperate and looking for any way out or I'll stay stuck in the same position forever. 3M is a horrible employer.

I left Verizon about two months ago on my own terms, and looking back, I’m very happy with my decision.

At the same time, it’s difficult to watch former colleagues being laid off, terminated, or feeling mistreated within the company. Years ago, I never imagined wanting to leave Verizon. I genuinely thought it was an amazing company and a place where I could build a long-term career.

But over time, things changed. The culture changed, the environment changed, and unfortunately, not for the better.

I say this as a former Customer Success Manager and Strategic Account Manager who spent many years with the organization. Since leaving, I’ve spoken with others who have also moved on, and I keep hearing the same thing: leaving was one of the best decisions they made.

The crazy part? I finally understand exactly what they mean.

Sometimes walking away from something you once loved isn’t giving up—it’s recognizing that the place you loved isn’t the same place anymore.

It's been four years. How have you fared? Better or worse?

For me, it has worked out better than I expected. It turned out that I didn't have to go back to work because of some luck with the performance of the portfolio. Spend most of my time relaxing but just started volunteering.

Is this the miracle Todd C has bet his career on?

Job cuts are expanding beyond the tech sector, affecting government, retail, and financial services. Older workers, often in higher-paying positions, face increased difficulty re-entering the workforce due to age bias and evolving skill requirements. Industries like healthcare, education, and utilities offer more stability for this demographic. Staying current with skills and maintaining professional networks are crucial for mitigating risks. Understanding industry trends can help individuals prepare for potential job market shifts.

https://financebuzz.com/news/layoffs-rising-industries-workers-over-50-know-2

External now, but got a job alert about this opening.

Any convenience reps here? Accepted a convenience sales rep role and would love to hear from someone with direct experience what I’m getting myself into

☕ Coffee? Check.
📅 Calendar? Check.
😰 Existential dread? Check.
👔 Manager + HR meeting? Oh… sh-t.

Good luck to everyone tomorrow as we gather for that very special corporate tradition known as “Career Roulette Thursday.”

Remember, no matter what happens, your company has a carefully prepared plan for your future…

…it just may not include you. 😂

And somewhere in India or the Philippines, someone is already polishing their résumé.

May the odds, the severance, and your remaining PTO be ever in your favor. 🍀

Any housekeeping tips I should keep in mind as I plan to put in my 2 weeks?

Tips to ensure a smooth vacation payout or pension payout? Or rolling over my 401k? Things of that nature. Would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Is there still CL potential? What’s the connection with Career Orientation?

Just saying

You all actually thought you had a long-term career in the oil industry and with this company. Oh, well.

If you're too good at your job, they'll never move you up. Do enough to stay safe. That's how you ensure you have a career here.

Hypothetically if we started posting elsewhere, what would be the top 3 other companies you would want to work for? Asking for a friend.