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Looking for RIF-proof role to stay in for next 20 years until retirement

With all the talk about RIFs lately, I'm thinking strategically about my next move here.

I'm not necessarily looking to grow, lead, innovate, take on stretch assignments, contribute, or “make an impact.” At this point, I'd really just like to find a role that is unlikely to be eliminated or increase in responsibilities, and that I can comfortably occupy for the next 20 years until retirement.

Ideally I'm looking for something where:

  • The work is important enough that they can't eliminate the position, but not so important that people can easily identify what I do
  • Answers within the parameters of a maximum of 4 possibilities, no judgment or thinking required
  • Clearly defined responsibilities so I can confidently say “that's outside my scope.”
  • There is little expectation to volunteer for additional work.
    -“That's how we've always done it” is considered a perfectly acceptable process improvement strategy.
  • My eventual career goal of “retiring from here” is viewed as a strength rather than a lack of ambition.

For those of you who have successfully moved internally to survive multiple rounds of RIFs: what types of roles should I be looking for?

I'm trying to find my forever home here, not my next career challenge. Ideally, I'd like to get into a role where I can learn a minimum, and then hand everything else off to someone who is still interested in career development.

Any internal career survival experts have advice on which jobs we have internally that suit these goals?


Feeling guilty for leaving

Final stage of recruitment process for another company

However I know how lean my team runs and how much me leaving will add the pressure to them all

I feel guilty even though logically I know I shouldn't and how stupid that is

I can't be the only one to deal with these emotions though, in even considering actually resigning

I like all the people I work with and my manager. Its the company direction and dysfunction that I don't believe in


Say no to GP Project Assignments

If your career is not owned by GP then you should NEVER accept a role where you will be ranked with GP. For example a project assignment. They will use you to fill the bottom of the rank group and protect their own. They do not value the contributions of anyone who is not from GP.


Standards of Care

Once what was a fulfilling career to support clients and their G2 G3 on their journey to and thru retirement has now turned into an exercise of making sure to click the required buttons to get credit for making sure you get the '"income". What is missing is that the clients are not getting the "outcome" that is in their best interest. Not to mention that G2 and G3 has become a non event when we push products because we have to hit numbers. Way too many "coaches" that have never been in a client facing role and never will be. Combined with Branch managers that manage to maximize their pay/shares, it's just a matter of time before AI takes over once was a highly skilled job and creates more value for the Johnson family.


What would you tell a family member thinkng about joining cisco???

Need some advice from other folks on the board... my brother in law really wants to join cisco ... he thinks it would be a great move now. he has 10 years of experience as a developer (multiple stacks) in two F500 companies... He's been pushing me to help set him up with an interview...

problem is i'm prety jaded at this point. after so many layoffs, long hours, constant reorganizations... and general dysfunction, i don't exactly have a glowing view of the place anymore. i also don't want to dump all my frustration on him or make it sound like i'm trying to ki-l an opportunity he's excited about.

if someone you were close to wanted to join cisco right now, what would you tell them? ??? what are the biggest things you'd make sure they understood before interviewing or accepting an offer? trying to give him a fair picture without turning it into my personal rant.


Footwear Executive Joins Wolverine

Ryan Drew, formerly of Under Armour's Curry Brand, has accepted a new position at Wolverine World Wide Inc. He will serve as the chief product officer for the company's Work Group. This division encompasses several well-known footwear brands designed for demanding jobs. Drew brings extensive experience from his previous roles in footwear marketing and global product development. His move signifies a significant shift in his career within the athletic and workwear industries.

Baltimore, Maryland

https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2026/05/07/8-things-to-know-under-armour-ryan-drew-wolverine.html


If this wave don’t get you, the next one might

Hope everyone gets the outcome they want. But please be careful getting comfortable here. They are in a mad rush to implement AI across the board and outsource what they can’t. If you get a stay of execution today, don’t think for one second you are no longer on death row. Use this as time to plan your next move.


Newcomer - Toxic Culture?

I've been at 3M for a few months and the culture seems toxic beyond anything I had expected. A heavy-handed top-down style, micromanagement to the extreme, little or no autonomy even for managerial roles, no real sense of direction or strategy, employee morale in the toilet, and all this coming from a CEO who seems to take pride in scaring the he-l out of his direct reports. Is it just me/my perception, is it just an adjustment period, or is that really the way things are going to be? I've been at several large corporations in mid and senior roles and never seen anything this bad. It's certainly not somewhere I could see making a bet for a satisfactory long-term career.


How are you guys selling this job?

I regret coming here, toxic manager yells at me openly in meetings. My whole team is also not US based. I'm a US citizen working mostly on C++ doing bug fixes feel like this is so hard to sell even as a Sr Swe. I'm trying to leetcode/system design review but I feel so far behind. Grad school? Getting a cert? No idea how to sell this place


Perception

Nice. Had my feedback session today and was told that I am a really great employee but my supervisor couldn’t overcome some negative perceptions about me that the assessment group had. Said I need to work on my perception this year to get the credit I deserve. What does that even mean? On one hand I am told I am doing great but then that I won’t be rewarded for it because people can’t see it and I am not visible enough?


I'm applying elsewhere and hitting a brick wall: "May we contact your current employer?

Haven't filled out a job application in over two decades and I have no idea what to do with this. If I say yes, they call my manager and I'm outed as a job-seeker. If I say no, I look like I'm hiding something. The manager already made it clear he doesn't want anyone on the team who's thinking of leaving. I don't know how to navigate this without torpedoing my current position.


Worth $7M no Liabilities

I have spent 30 years at Intel and have accumulated about $7M with no liabilities. I am early 50's. I guess my issue is I don't feel $7M is enough to retire. However, the RTO has removed my joy and I keep feeling like "why do I put up with this". I feel like I am doing a great job, but otherwise no longer have ambition for more promotions.

For awhile I was looking for other jobs, but now that the stock is up, I have another $1M if I just stay 2 more years. Do most of you feel the same way?