or has severance really change drastically for the worse over the years?
Don't forget the big picture
It's easy to focus on quarterly headlines. Harder to ignore a 46%+ loss in market value over 12 months. Don't forget the big picture.
Looks like share price is taking again
Someone mentioned on this forum not long ago that the executive board wants to take the share price below €100 so they can have more layoffs. It seems it's on track to do that. This AI obsession with price increase makes no sense. What is the tipping... — read more
Does it look like the bonus issues will be resolved??
First quarter bonus didn’t show up. Then they said they are working to resolve the issues. Is there a date by which this will be resolved?
Next wave of layoff
Does anyone know when is the next wave of layoff coming and if they would be giving us severance package? I am sick of upper management
We're all in this together!
Except when it comes to bonuses, which mostly go to those on top. And layoffs, which mostly affected those of us not on top. And raises. And so on. But we're all in this together! /s
Did you notice layoffs have long stopped being a last resort?
At some point, layoffs at SAP stopped being a last resort and started being a standard business tool. Instead of exhausting every other option first, cutting employees is now the main go-to move whenever costs need trimming.
SAP and privacy
Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior, because we’re constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on". It seems SAP is going in the same direction. Our uptime on MS Teams and meeting time is already... — read more
Stock explodes, no need for layoffs
Stock at € 168.30 / $ 181.79. There is no need for layoffs. Looks good for all of us.
Stop the rumors and focus on facts
There are so many rumors about layoffs on this forum. But none of them are based on facts. Please focus on facts. For example, let‘s talk about the enshittification of the company culture and the effects on staff turnover. That is something that can... — read more
More layoffs coming
Up to double the previous number from the last round. Hopefully all the illegal aliens will be shipped back so we can get on with stabilizing a western company.
DA is coming for your Claude Code
https://l.smartnews.com/p-7N8S54w8/P2qeIM Claude Code launched inside Microsoft's Experiences and Devices group in December 2025. Six months later, the experiment is ending. The tool was not cancelled because engineers disliked it. It was cancelled... — read more
The new manager is the final straw
I have put up with being underpaid and overworked for years because I am used to it. But my new manager has crossed a line. I refuse to be yelled at and bullied every single day by someone who only got his job because he knows how to flatter the... — read more
No mention of teeth flossing in “high performance cultures”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-05-20/ceos-at-novo-nestle-push-work-cultures-into-results-mode
At SAP and Palantir, Agentic AI Making ‘Software’ Obsolete
Is SAP still a software company? CK opened with this question at Sapphire. There are more and more reports of SAP moving away from creating software products. And CK wants SAP to become the largest private and public sector data store for Palantir... — read more
12 Months On
I got out of SAP 12 Months ago and it's been the best decision I've made. I was a decade within the company. But if you are sick of the BS just move on. Life is too short and wasting bandwidth in this forum.
Unfiltered 2026
What was the Trust in Leadership score this time? I didn't see it in Gina's email. Did it go up or down?
How to get a higher WHAT and HOW score?
It seems that now our bonuses are also calculated with the WHAT and HOW scores. My manager created easy goals for a couple of colleagues who are her friends and asked them to copy paste them in the system. But with me, we used AI and my my goals are... — read more
All hands ? What is that deal with that ?
All hands ? What is that deal with that
SAP Share +10€ today
Surprisingly the share is +10€ today Anybody knows the reason ? Sell or Wait ?
Are they watching us?
I overheard a conversation in a coffee corner where one colleague said that HR is tracking our surfing behavior, and that people who go to this site regularly are marked for the next round of layoffs. Is this true? And if so, would that be legal, or... — read more
Surprising, no headcount cut, announced till now
Surprising, no headcount cut, announced till now
SAP's new Company Memory is just data harvesting for SAP AI and for Palantir
Spoke at length with some engineers who are working on this. They are "optimizing" the company memory to work with the Palantir AI program. When did we become beholden to American surveillance companies like this? When data leaks happen or when... — read more
Why is the SAP stock in a free fall today? New 52 week low? Is it SAP doomsday?
Who knows what is going on?
SAPPHIRE Rebrand company now S-AI-P
As SAPPHIRE '26 wraps up, look for merch and rebranding swag being given away. The company is now SAIP! All in on AI. A yet still weirder acronym than SAP ... so I checked on its meaning: Systems Acquisition and Implementation Program? Substance... — read more
Embarassing
Watched the SAP Sapphire keynote. Embarrassing. Speaker after speaker, palpable stage fright. Forced enthusiasm, unnatural pauses, reading slides like middle school presentations. You'd think a $30B+ company would invest in actual public speaking... — read more
Sapphire is cooked
Do you know that an average German employee has to work around 360 years only to make an equivalent of what Christian Klein gets as a bonus in a year? Shocking, isn’t it? But not really. In most companies, executive bonuses are a fraction of their... — read more
All good
'Big announcements at sapphire!!!' 'We are the pioneers of a new era!!!' 'the world will never be the same!!!'. . . . Share price down 1.4%
Proposed DOL new H-1B Wage Rule Will Break the SAP Consulting Delivery Model
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/03/27/2026-06017/improving-wage-protections-for-the-temporary-and-permanent-employment-of-certain-foreign-nationals Interesting times coming, brace for turbo outsourcing of delivery work.
Three interviews and a take home assignment, then a generic rejection email
I'm exhausted. I feel like I'll be stuck at SAP for good - or until I'm laid off - because the job market is atrocious.
Are there alternatives?
SAP used to be the greatest company to work for, at least as far as I am concerned. But now? Not anymore. The current board is su-king all joy and enthusiasm out of work. But are other companies that different? Oracle... meh. Microsoft... no... — read more
All in on AI Chaos
Morale is at all time low, teams are divided, some with connections travel to WDF and Palo Alto for All in on AI workshops and the rest become mere spectators of what’s next to come without any stake in decisions. Joule for Work rebranding of Joule... — read more
SAP to track AI adoption
I was told by my manager that SAP is launching a global AI adoption program and will track the usage of LLMs and other AI features on SAP products. They plan to coincide the launch with Sapphire so there will also be a big buzz about it. I bluntly... — read more
Is SAP HR using AI sentiment analysis on UNFILTERED yet?
A number of HR companies are turning toward AI that applies sentiment analysis to employee surveys. https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/2026/05/worker-surveillance-emotion-ai/687029/?gift=xFHwB96eiHLjRHiwv84DJGI4m7kA5QUxMmyoB3T8OlU
A reality check about future layoffs...
I posted this as a response, but figured it would be more useful to some if it was a standalone thread. *Come one, everybody! Don't be so gullible. CK didn't say there wouldn't be layoffs in our recent all-hands call, he just... — read more
Layoff, is it happening if yes when?
Layoff, is it happening if yes when?
SAP talks about AI layoffs and China does the opposite
Chinese Courts Rule Companies Cannot Fire Workers Simply to Replace Them With AI https://www.caixinglobal.com/2026-04-30/chinese-courts-rule-companies-cannot-fire-workers-simply-to-replace-them-with-ai-102439602.html I think this is great and would... — read more