They are negotiating the new work agreement and they let us completely unaware of the new changes that might affect us. The management and HR can then determine to get rid of any employee according to their own will. They also don’t guarantee if those affected will be offered a new replacement job ever at all and please for God’s sake, please stop racist sh-t posting, that is the agenda of the management to make us fight each other but we have to be together.
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@ca All very true, sadly.
The UK has changed the trade union regulations such that a company of 21 employees may form a trade union. Only 40% of the group forming the trade union (and it can be a small group within the company like the marketing team) has to approve. If you live in the UK - consider forming a trade union - it might be beneficial!
CK has clearly stated layoffs are coming at mass scale next year . That is in 2 or 3 months. this time in Germany for sure . So German colleagues watch out this time .
Chuck does not need the Works Council. His fist speaks for him.
Works council in theory should represent the interest of the people (employees) but they in reality are politicians. They will not stand up for you if that implies putting a fight with the company. They are looking to sustain their job, to stay in a position of relevance and gain influence. They will make it look they are negotiating for you, but no matter what, they will align to board mandates and interests. Continuous reorganisations are bad, they have already assessed its good for us, new performance framework is bad, they have already give their ok. Short story, they don’t have your back.
Now HR, they are even worse, they are snakes. Never never trust them. They will fire you if they want, they will create the conditions to frame you, they exists to protect the business from any liabilities. They said you’ll be up skilled and offered a new job if yours is made redundant, they will give you sh!tt! options. They are making you quit voluntarily that’s it. Now who survives until 2027 they will fire you to protect executives mistakes and mitigate the expenses on AI. If you are not part of a boys club like the CK one, Mr Wenz, BTP Ameling friends, then nothing is safe for you.
well @ag post should be the main post - it's a well informed piece
The Betriebsrat at SAP is filled with career politicians. The same people get elected every four years and they do the same things over and over again. We won't see change till we have some new employees step up. But I doubt if any new employees will try. It's a death sentence at SAP. Managers at SAP are known to destroy careers of anyone who is a candidate at the Betriebsrat or helps and candidates for the Betriebsrat.
But what is worse is not the Betriebsrat. The supervisory board is another entity who are also elected officials. And they have been making things much much worse for the employees as well as the company. Their sole purpose is to ask for budget cuts so executive bonuses can increase. Every single year they do this. Look at board member bonus to salary ratio in the last few years compared to 10 years ago and 20 years ago.
We will have layoffs. SAP is burning too much money on AI that they don't need to. And there is too much focus to create AI features that customers are not interested in. It is going to backfire very badly. But that is their plan. When it backfires in 2027, they will have heavy layoffs but still increase executive bonuses. Layoffs also increase the share price so just before their contract ends, CK and other executives will make millions more. And employees will suffer as usual. This is how capitalism works and it cannot be fixed. Not unless we have the same ratio for executive bonuses and all other employees.
The fight is between the rich executives and the poor employees. But they will distract us with cultural differences and other shenanigans. Because they know that our hate for those that are different from us is more than our love for a better life for ourselves and our families.