#worklifebalance

I can only imagine how the people cut this week are feeling. The rest of us will probably spend it consumed with anxiety over next week. About which we still know almost nothing. What a way to treat people.

Does taking meetings from the phone and using outlook on phone to check email count towards activity usage?

I do this frequently when commuting in the train and am wondering if this contributes towards activity usage?

Thoughts? It's insane how they are tracking too.

No. I won’t be going skiing. I will be at home, on the couch watching YouTube Tube or cutting the grass. Or some other low cost activity. Or sitting around thinking and planning how to increase my income.

I usually go home around 2pm to avoid traffic and continue working between 2:30 to 6:30. Now I have to stay until 5pm and feel stressed out due to the heavy traffic. Since I stayed until 5pm, no more work at home.

My working hour is less than before after the 8 hours rule is enforced.

I certainly don't wish for anyone to lose their job. I just want my severance so I can be on my way. This place has been toxic and utterly exhausting. There's only so much you can endure before it erodes your well-being. There's a whole life I've been missing out on for years. Don't ever let work monopolize your mind and time. The sacrifices never truly pay off in the end.

I'm stuck in the worst kind of limbo. Staying means more of this stress, but leaving without a plan is scary. The fact that I can't decide which is worse says everything about how bad things are here.

stock is at $58, at what point do people realize extra effort is required to dig out of this. even 1 weekend a month would be a huge help to turn this thing around. let's go !!!!

I know they exist. I see the people in webphone. So, why are they the exception? I see job posting with “5 days in-office”, but clearly, that’s not always the case. Applying internally, are all the jobs genuinely gonna be 5 days in office still?

There are so many opportunities I would love to see through, but I am not gonna commit to another job with 5-day mandatory office. I can’t do it anymore.

Despite 14 billion in profits in the last year. Its not out of the question for the stock to go to low 200s. Nothing matters to this company other than 1. Stock price 2. shareholders.
Hard work does not get rewarded along with all the extra hours you put in. Do the bare minimum like Peter in office space, you will get same results. A layoff, oh and sc--w that little dork Sandork Di--oani Mr 100x

It looks like the rumors were true. Employee match on retirement was reduced to 3.5%. That flew right under the radar.

Minimal/no raises or bonuses. Employee match ~50% of what other large companies offer. RTO wasted time and expense for no reason. No major benefits. Even OnePass has become outrageously expensive. From a FORTUNE 3 company. Absolutely disgusted.

Got back a mixed review because one of my coworkers is mad that I stopped working nights and weekends. lol. i also need to step up my game in the creation of our team’s decks, because I seemingly can’t read my director’s mind well enough when given no direction. At least I have a good attitude!! F-ck this place all the way to he-l.

I left 2 months ago for a competitor and didn’t even get so much more in salary, but I do not regret it at all.

The culture out there is so much better in many ways. No one is breathing down your neck and expecting you to work every moment. I feel respected and heard here. I hope you guys make it out too!

They sent me a disclosure telling me for 90 days although I am currently within a lay off period I am not allowed to work for another firm.

First question is how tf would they even know if I got another job?
Isnt this illegal?
This place is the worst place I think I ever worked, in a way im glad the lay off came.

Before Coterra there was Cabot and Cimarex. Cabot had a very different work culture from Cimarex similar to other Houston companies. It was laid back and less formal.

Worth reading:
https://www.inc.com/leila-sheridan/kevin-oleary-loves-why-his-companies-will-never-force-a-return-to-the-office/91291726

Kevin O’Leary, a real investor with actual companies laid out why forcing people into offices is a losing strategy:

“If you’re trying to say to people, ‘Oh, you got to work in an office,’ you’ll just get the bottom quartile of people who have no choice.”

Yes I know HD has nothing to do with our business and what we do. Just FYI, they announced mandatory 5-Day RTO. This may have already been posted, if so, my apologies.

They havent been reading The Layoff much.

I forgot my laptop at home and didn’t realize it until I got to the office. It’s kind of hilarious how there’s literally no work to do without it. No systems. No tools. Nothing.

Which exposes the flaw in the whole RTO and “collaboration” argument. If presence alone created value, being here would still matter without a laptop. But it doesn’t. All the actual work still happens digitally, exactly the same way it does at home.

If the office adds no functional capability beyond what a laptop provides, then forcing people to commute just to open the same apps on a different desk defeats the entire purpose.

I’ve learned the hard way over my career that stressing over a job takes a devastating toll on your health and well-being. We also know performance has little to no impact on who gets laid off. Believing you can curry favor by working yourself raw, only to feel guilty later for not doing enough, helps no one. Do the bare minimum professionally, but don’t go the extra mile. Always be on the lookout for other opportunities. Don’t take anything personally, and stop stressing about office politics or the next potential layoff. Be good to yourself.

Had a mid career experienced hire employee tell me he just likes to keep his head down and let his work speak for itself. He is on the fast track for a PIP. The psychos will notice and take huge advantage of him. I tried to warn him.

How are we handling the no pay increase again this year? For context I have gone above and beyond and done Jessica’s extra projects and more. There isn’t anything more that I could have done to be a role model employee.

1. Sulk
2. Call out “sick”
3. Refuse all additional work
4. Other - open to suggestions.

I’m an ISAE2, and our pay was cut to $19.61/hour with a 50/50 quota plan. This company keeps moving backward.

Guys don’t work after 4-5, don’t go in early, don’t give up nights with your family, don’t respond to emails outside of work hours, don’t be proactive. Can’t tell you how much I have given up for this company over the last few years and what is there to show for it? No hope for promotion, 1% raises, took away my bonus, reduced 401k all for leaders to tell me I should be grateful I have a job. Sorta falls on deaf ears when your compensation is going up and ours is going down. All that to say, do the bare minimum guys, this company will not reward you for your efforts. On the contrary you’ll probably get laid off.

They're trying to stress us into resigning. My strategy is quiet quitting. I'll do just enough not to get fired outright. If they want me out, they'll have to pay for the privilege.

We all did the five-day commute for years without this much fuss. Yeah, WFH is nicer, but going to an office is what we all signed up for originally. I don't get why it's such a shock to the system now. It's just a return to normal.

Now I can't even properly relax on a Saturday due to Monday-related anxiety. What they're doing is destroying us, and they couldn't care less.

I see a lot of people talk about 50 or 60-plus hours, and it always surprises me because I’ve never worked more than the standard 40. My reviews have always been great, so I’m genuinely confused about the disconnect.

I ignored the signs for too long and now my health is paying the price. I wish I had listened to my gut and started job hunting the moment I felt the constant pressure. This job isn't worth your wellbeing.

I spent most of my career going all in, staying late, fixing things no one asked me to fix. Lately I’m realizing the extra effort rarely changes outcomes or benefits me all that much, it just burns me out faster. I’m trying to do what’s required, not everything possible, and reminding myself work doesn’t deserve all my energy. In other words, I'm trying to give back exactly as much as I'm getting.

Any insight into how long is it between “pre lay off notice” and formal notice? Currently Not required to work, it’s classified as something like non-working administrative leave. Not required to come in-office. Still have teamworks access, just no systems access. Thx

The writing is on the wall.
Assume a letter from Mary is imminent because these automakers always copy each other.
2026 was already trash. It's just going to amplify. 😭

Hope you all have a great weekend. Hopefully you survived this last round. But I expect several/many more this year.

Stellantis orders employees to return to work 5 days a week

Coming to your town next !

We hear, even those who got a waiver to work off-site are to come in or lose their jobs.

The recent surge in FORD “ghost” job postings may now make more sense —HR likely anticipated increased turnover among employees who WFH getting canned.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/stellantis-orders-employees-to-return-to-work-5-days-a-week/ar-AA1VlIzy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=697d0bbac8ed45dfb96d01d3cbb642da&ei=73#comments

As a long time UMAC, I can truly say since this centralization my mental health has taken a sharp decline! The new processes that change every 15 minutes, it’s just too much!

I read a comment saying someone was told by Fidelity that they were approved to move to take care of their ailing mother, and then Fidelity said “sike”. To the person in that predicament, I’m sorry Fidelity did this to you.

I read a rumor that Fidelity employees may only need to come to the office once a week once again instead. I say RUMOR because I’m unsure how truthful that is.

Regardless of the situation, whoever’s reading this, please don’t forget to spend time with your loved ones. Most of us come here to vent. And that’s ok. Just don’t forget to be around people who make your life meaningful.

That’s all. Have a good weekend. If you’re on the east coast, safe during the incoming snow.

We are being forced to work 4 extra hours a week of OT. Thoughts?

Among other things, I am diagnosed with ADHD and PTSD. I work with a great care team to manage these, but it is still often life-disrupting. Part of my PTSD directly intersects with commuting to my PulsePoint, which like many here feels pointless because not one person from my team is in my state much less in my office. This has gotten worse recently and is affecting my wellbeing, as well as worsening other symptoms which in turn adversely affects my ability and performance.

However, I've never sought accommodations for my disabilities and I am nervous, especially since there can be disbelief or stigma around them. For example, I am worried that if I ask to be exempt from office requirements, it will make me more likely to get RIFed down the line somehow. Or otherwise get me on upper mgmt's radar in a bad way. I know there are ADA protections, but I also know that there are many ways to make it seem unrelated.

I am curious if you or someone you know has had experience seeking acommodations at this company, good or bad or neutral. Thank you!