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What to do?

I am anticipating my time to relocate (not sure where) might come anytime. My product has a lifecycle of a few years, but many of team members have relocated and many experienced leaders retired due to age and RTO. My motivation to work is low and minimal human interaction is gutting me.

Should I relocate and hope to switch projects? My spouse is under stressful situations at work too with tons of work and wants to quit if I relocate or become stable somewhere.

I am unable to find work outside T due to various factors (skill gap, unfair RTO demands)

If I relocate,,we will take a major financial hit. What to do? Leap of faith of faith RTO or should I quit?


Rules For Us But Not For Them

VPs and above are not going into the office while others are forced to go in 5x a week. These “leaders” have excuses like they’re at an offsite or their car keeps breaking down. There is even a VP who takes a flight from Florida each week to go into the NY office but does not go in every day. Meanwhile its been sparse at the office with anyone below VP level and people come in for just a few hours. There’s even some talk between senior leaders about only coming in some days. Some teams go in everyday while others on different floors don’t seem to be going in at all. There’s no work, people scrolling on their phones all day, and people on the same floor slacking each other because they don’t want to walk to their meetings. And looks like they’re still hiring remote positions.

This place is a sh-t show, pays like sh-t, and we get treated like sh-t. Meanwhile “leadership” gets paid more than 6 figures, have people cook and clean for them, people to take care of their kids, while we have to slave away in traffic and do nothing at the office. DE said RTO was so successful, but what is even the measurement? The guy talks out of his a-s and the so-called “leadership” covers for each other but not for the people who are actually doing whatever work there is.

Make it make sense!


Remote Employees Forced Back

It's recently come to my attention that any remote employees that live close to an office they are able to travel to will be told to go back to office again. There are teams that are remote only that will be told the same thing that do not live anywhere close to an office and will have to either move, or will be let go.


RTO is d-mb af

Yes, I know it's been a year and change but it's pointless for some of us. I get the RTO for certain teams I suppose but for those who are on teams/orgs that are literally GLOBAL it makes zero sense.

I drive an hour to work daily only to "collaborate" IN PERSON, with ONE person whom lives 15 mins from the office. What do we collaborate on, you ask? Absolutely fkn nothing! Unless you count gossip, and bi--hing about Dell as collaborating, anyways...

Oh but then, we have to join VIRTUAL meetings because 99% of the team is... remote or in fkn Europe, or other parts of the USA!

I just love driving 320 miles/week and tolls to go sit next to a coworker for 10 hours/week, though. If I know he's not going in or is on PTO, I don't go in. At the very minimum I make the drive and coffee badge because f that bs. I get every bit as much work done at home while playing video games all day than I do sitting in the office watching netflix on my phone.


Does Anyone Know if Thursday Will Be Mandatory Office Day for Burlington?

So, they waited until 4:20 AM to send a text to announce the office was closed due to 18 inches of snow, yet last month when we were already working from home due to office renovations, they sent the alert out at 7 pm Sunday night, and that storm was about half the size.

I think most people were out shoveling snow instead of working online, can’t blame them lol. I know I snuck offline for a few hours for that very reason, barely did squat today. That’s a big middle finger to SK. You could literally do nothing, WITHOUT taking a personal day, and nobody could give a flying fadoodle.

With that being said, I’m guessing this stupid three in-office day rule applies this week?


Is in office mandatory ??

Hello, can someone in this group help me answer to this question please my life depends on it. I am hired as completely remote employee now with these new polices will I be removed from job if I choose not to go into office ?? My manger collected nearest Hub from my home which is 300 miles away and I have to turn my life around to make that happen meaning leave my freinds and neighbors everything that I built socially


laying off remote workers

yepp it’s true. had a meeting about it today that ruined my whole day. they hired these people as remote workers and are now firing them for being remote. how cruel. and they say it’s to promote “collaboration” but nobody in office collaborates on anything. and our team is split up between 5 offices so everything is done virtual anyways. it feels like BS just to fill up offices and keep their precious precious real estate value. what else would be the point of laying off fully trained employees just to replace them with in office workers? and we already can’t handle our workloads, the last thing we need right now is to lose a bunch of people. this is gonna hit the rest of us hard.


How can managers track if and when we are in the office?

I just got assigned a new manager. He is based in a different location to me, as are almost all of the team. He only comes to my office once a month.

Me and one colleague are the only ones out of the 16 team members based in our location, and we both prefer to work from home, and perform much better. This new manager being in a different location seems like a great opportunity... Can I just lie about being in the office? Can he track key card swipes, or WiFi logins to see how many days per week I go in?

I know this info is logged, but does direct managers have access to that information? I'm wondering if maybe some gdpr data protection would prohibit them from being able to casually keep track of office attendance?

Are my dreams doomed?


RTO Is Dead — Top Talent Won’t Play the Attendance Game

https://www.aol.com/articles/cubicles-dead-says-kevin-oleary-171606254.html

The workforce is changing and companies ignoring it are setting themselves up to fail. Kevin O’Leary recently said, “Cubicles are dead,” and warned that forcing people back into offices will only attract the bottom quartile of talent. Millennials and Gen Z now dominate the labor market, and for them work-life balance and flexibility are not perks, they are baseline expectations. As Baby Boomers phase out, companies insisting on five-day RTO will find themselves competing for the shrinking pool of workers who can’t leave.

RTO isn’t just a morale issue. It destroys value, drives top talent away, and leaves companies exposed with only the least mobile employees. The lesson is clear: productivity, collaboration, and retention follow autonomy, not attendance. Any leadership that believes otherwise is betting against the future of work.


Houston downtown parking garage nightmare

We've been stuck in the HOU150 garage for 45+ minutes. That me and about 100 other cars. Just trying to leave. Unbelievable.
Force everyone into a needlessly remodelled office with open-plan seating that strips away dignity and privacy—then schedule repairs on the elevators, escalators, and garage all at once, grinding facility throughput to a halt.
What are we doing? Why does everything have to be this hard? Why are we doing this to ourselves?


At least buy me dinner first

2% annual raise AND a 5 day RTO?
This place never fails to amaze me lol 😂

The lowest raise possible even after exceeding expectations, buying a new bank, record profits, and an ATH stock market price… literally RUN if you think of staying or applying here.

Oh and I get to use that raise for the new parking garage fees :) bill u sly dog u…


Come for the pickleball, stay for the same old noisy open plan annoyance

Anyone notice how they never showed the places where you’ll actually work? Probably because it will be the same old open plan warehousing with no assigned seats where you’ll have to battle background noise while you try to do focused work.

And remember, all the fancy stuff is about one thing: making your life revolve around AT&T and Stankeytown as much as possible. Same playbook as Google, Apple etc just 30 years later.


RTO is ki-ling our talent pool

Yet another talented colleague who was hired in the remote-first era has left. They couldn't get promoted without agreeing to move to Minnesota. They were hired in the "Work Your Way is permanent!" era, and were assured during the hiring process that they could get promoted without having to relocate. Our current policy says that exceptions may be made for key positions, which my colleague's absolutely is, but our EVP is gutless and afraid of doing anything that would anger the CEO. I don't know whose retirement I'm anticipating more.


I'm sick of RTO

I know this has been beaten to the ground but I'm venting and am questioning how harshly anyone is even paying attention to RTO...

I'm so tired of driving a solid hour to the office every single day, wasting gas and paying $20 a week on TOLLS only to be there for a few hours... With ONE other person on my team. I'm spending about $100 a week just to go to work and sit on fkn virtual calls I can do at home while dealing with dogshit WiFi. If I lived 15 mins away I wouldn't care about it tbh; but I drive 80 miles a day + gas + tolls + unnecessary car mileage to do sh-t I can do at home.

I took my computer to tech central last week because I hadn't used it in years - a test machine - and they told me Dell took all the LAN wires, switches and routers out for LAN connectivity as they never planned on having anyone RTO... Yet, here we are.

Being forced to work in half baked offices with not enough docks or desks, being forced to park half a mile away from your building, INSANE cafe prices for food that is sub-par at best - and most is bought from freakin HEB (grocery store) lol.. all while raises are comical and promotions are non existent.

I love my job and unfortunately rely on those paychecks so, I'll be a good peon and go in


The office is a distraction factory

Trying to concentrate in that environment is impossible. People talking, interrupting, moving things around... I got more done in a quiet hour at home than I do in a full day at the office. To say my productivity has plummeted would be an understatement. This RTO experiment is failing.


Dell is just a clown show

That’s all I need to say. No direction. Constant changes, flailing changes. No ability to execute or even plan. Talking about things like RTO but not really enforcing it. Schedules constantly missed. Huge investments in contractors. Hiring but constantly laying off for no reason. Not a single technologist at an SVP or executive level. No results just talk.

It’s just a bunch of clowns. The notion of running a business is gone. It’s just about how much can I stuff in my pocket before the thing goes defunct. Pathetic and sad.


Unexpected layoff notification?

This writing has been on the wall for longer than a minute. Relocate if required and RTO or risk losing your employment if you choose to gamble. It is a personal choice. It isn't as if you first heard about it only yesterday. You will find no sympathy from AT&T if you are unhappy about the position you find yourself in today and continue to refuse to accept responsibility for yourself and your family. Coasting along when you should have been adapting and planning.