#rto

I've read several articles last year in which executives from companies that instituted RTO admitted that was their way of getting rid of people without having to pay them severance. They know we don't want RTO. They know that full well. That's not a bug, that's a feature. They're hoping we'll quit. Please don't do them any favors.

I doubt there will an abundance of employees wanting to engage/volunteer in PNC Grow Up Great activities going forward due to the announcement today. I will no longer offer my personal time. It must be on company time, if I even decide to continue to do it. Who has time to volunteer when you’re spending hours during a 5 day work week just to commute to work!? I will no longer contribute to the United Way either. Why should PNC get the recognition for my donation? I hope you all will stand with me on these topics.

Will this apply to all teams, or will some remain fully remote? I’ve heard it applies across all departments.

Procurement employees I know are being asked if they live within 50 miles of L3Harris location. It won't be long now.

Time to make our voices heard folks. Let's pick day(s) to gather outside The Tower at 5pm. Wear a mask, bring your signs. Let's let the a--holes know.

Let’s stop pretending this five days a week RTO mandate is about collaboration, culture, or productivity. We already proved, clearly and measurably, that productivity increased while working remotely. During the pandemic, employees kept PNC stable, profitable, and operational under extraordinary circumstances. That wasn’t leadership from the top, that was workers carrying the bank on their backs.

Now the “reward” is being forced back into offices to sit on Teams calls all day, while absorbing thousands of dollars a year in new costs - gas, parking, commuting time, childcare, daily life friction - in an economy that’s already on fire. Wages haven’t kept up with the cost of living in years, people are stressed across the board, and somehow the solution is to make life harder for the people doing the actual work.

Let’s be honest about what this really is: empty buildings, tax incentives, sunk real-estate costs, and executive optics. Cities are upset. Balance sheets are uncomfortable. And instead of adapting to a proven, modern way of working, PNC chose to protect assets and executive compensation - at employees’ expense.

This decision makes one thing painfully clear: PNC doesn’t care about its people, its so-called “family,” or the reality employees are currently living in. It cares about making top tier executives even richer, no matter the cost. That isn’t leadership. It’s greed wrapped in a RTO memo. 🖕🏻

There it is folks.. May the 4th be with you!!

Question in title

Yep. turn ur camera on Folks!!

There is no reason in the world that a full 5 day in office, no exceptions, for every employee mandate needs to be made. Much less so quickly AND during a bank merger. With all the money baby billy dimon is making he just wants more. mgmt likes to make it about collaboration and culture, but really they are just further ruining PNC's culture by forcing this on everyone. PNC already doesnt pay well and is now making everyone incur costs they werent before. PNC had a ton of remote workforce before covid and is now going back on all of that. A lot of people were hired as remote or worked as remote for years before all of this and they are told to go in.... for what? to make sad little billy happy to see people in his offices. The offices su-k! have you been to any of them? what is the incentive for anyone to come in? There is none! pay for parking, additional childcare, food, travel, vehicle maintenance, etc. PNC cant even bump pay a little to compensate when they are making billions each quarter.

Bumping this up for visibility. OP: @ea+1kes6rfnt

I expect conditions and requirements to get worse over time. It was never about productivity, in-person cooperation for efficiency, or god forbid the benefits of thriving office culture. It was always meant to push as many people out as possible on the cheap, making compliance so irrational, inconvenient, or impossible that we'd just quit.

If it's not going as planned, meaning not enough people are leaving on their own (which is understandable in this job market and economy), it will just become more inconvenient and unbearable. That's the playbook.

So, I drag my a-s into the office every day since Jan 5. Yet since last Wednesday, the building has been pretty much dead. Yeah, there were people on every floor, but it's not full. I was on 27 today, and I spotted 4 people. 4!!

So, where are u and how busy is it? Has your boss told you to work from home again?

holy cow.

i thought the missing vending machines posts were a joke. you should be ashamed if you removed food and drinks and slapped up a sign that says it saves energy.

you should be ashamed that none of your ev chargers work. you should be ashamed that none of your monitors is our disgusting open concept zero privacy dynamic desks work. you should be ashamed at shrinking cafe hours and saying it’s to “better serve us”. you should be ashamed at having only one way in and out of multiple building towers and the rest roped off. you should be ashamed that lights don’t come on or stay in large areas of all floors. what is wrong with you? why are you such cheap skates?

have you no shame woodcreek decision makers? i hope i never meet you, i am truly repulsed. you call for RTO and can’t handle things like lights parking and food. you better be the next cuts.

After giving the return-to-office mandate several months to be fair and well-intentioned, it’s clear this policy creates significant friction without delivering any meaningful benefit—particularly for employees who were hired explicitly as full-time telecommuters. We are now expected to spend personal time getting ready in office attire, commuting, badging in, navigating parking ramps, security checkpoints, and elevators, only to sit alone in a cubicle all day with no teammates in the same state, let alone the same office.

On top of that, there are no assigned desks. Employees routinely arrive to find reserved desks already taken, workstations missing basic equipment, and time wasted simply trying to locate a place where they can do their jobs. This is not collaborative or productive.

Requiring people to sacrifice hours of personal time and incur additional costs to sit alone on video calls all day is not improving productivity, engagement, or morale. It is creating widespread frustration and disengagement. Employees are openly unhappy with this change, and when asked by peers about the policy, they are candid in sharing how illogical and counterproductive it feels. This approach adds inconvenience and resentment while delivering no measurable value.

Is Houston completely unassigned seating now in both towers? If so, brutal to absorb that and RTO 4 days all at once. How is it going for everyone? Strong reactions?

stock is in a free fall again, and they are awarding stocks as retention to their 40k employees. what does it mean? buy backs?
also they are asking people in BH to be in the office all 5 days again, what a joke!

So how is the new RTO 'mandate' going for everybody ?
So far nothing has changed at our office and management seems to not enforce it either.

Also what is the RTO announced for Canada and Ottawa in specific? Are we required to go in anytime soon?

So I left the company last year, but am now considering returning due to pay. But I want to know the exact in-office requirements I would be committing to. I left for remote but I want to consider if the pay raise to return is worth being hybrid.

Can you WFH for now until you wait and start reporting to the new location? Is there any chances you will get terminated since you answer “YES”

Anyone noticed there hasn’t been much more talk about this? Has this stopped? Also any word on why they closed the Middletown NY office?

Well the long awaited 5-day RTO announcement finally came and in PNC fashion it was an email instead of being covered by the executives at their all hands. Obviously they didn’t want the questions or responses. Demchak is so disconnected from reality it’s comical. Good luck to folks that have been hybrid remote since well before the pandemic, a detail most in leadership seem to forget. Can’t wait for the talent to leave in troves to get paid what they’re worth.

Company wide email to come later this week. Only managers received the communication for now.

50 weeks left. Hang in there.

Is the week of the RTO memo drop supposedly?? Wonder how it impacts people who have been in a virtual job for. Few years.

Knowing I have to go to the dell office tomorrow in Round Rock

Manila, Argentina, engine don’t have RTO: they are still hybrid. Why?
What’s the point in the US to have a free for all “find a place” seating?
New spaces are GREAT if you do not care about any ergonomics whatsoever.
When are 1500 office workers moving to 1400 so they can spend $100k+ building floors with glass and non adjustable chairs?

When are the packages coming again?
Makes me so sad - you?

I wonder how many can't or won't comply. RTO is here for attrition purposes, after all.

This question was asked a few times in this forum.

• Yes, companies have started tracking "how long" instead of just "if" people badged in.
• The sensors were there, but aggregation was not so common .. till now.
• https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-flags-employees-rto-office-2026-1

We work for one company, Retail can't function without IT yet every year they get 30% - 50% more bonus payout. This year will be an even bigger slap in the face with IT getting less than half of Retail along with a measly 2% merit increase, promotions canceled, American IT jobs displaced to India, and layoffs in Q1. Why pretend RTO is for collaboration? It just makes leadership look dishonest.

Hearing from several prominent people that Goldman Sachs is taking over and mass layoffs are slated for next week (not just this past Friday) and beyond. I am also hearing that our friends overseas (you know- the offshore people in Pune) are going to be receiving any job reqs and locations like Lake Mary and Pittsburgh are going to be, if not phased out, greatly streamlined. Finally, the AI initiative is being met with heavy resistance from the "rank and file" and this, along with RTO and offshoring 'concerns', are a large part of the "rationale" for layoffs...this and the stock market (translation: how it benefits RV). 2025 will be nothing compared to 2026.

And it's by design. I almost have the feeling that they enjoy making us jump through hoops, throwing all kinds of obstacles and inconveniences at us just for the heck of it. Productivity and performance be damned. Losing top performers, because they do have a choice? Not important. As long as we are exposed to humiliating rituals and games, all is good.

Doesn't affect me I'm in the office 5 days already.

They will be tracking our badges for compliance. Also told that more of the old buildings are being opened up to accommodate.

Question for those that didn't RTO 4 days, what is for status?

I have come in the office every day this week in Houston. My co-workers in finance located in SR have not come in the office one day this week. What gives?

On a call with leaders and managers. 25,000 layoffs last year, expect another re-org (or as it was said in the meeting; 'reshuffle') at the earliest mid-February.

Employee confidence in Cisco, it's direction and future are at an all time low according to leadership. The only positive is RTO reigniting local hire after years of stagnation.

It's time to start looking for a job on the grill at mcdonalds

Is anybody else frustrated with the handling of Return to Office (RTO) mandates while remote employees continue to work from home, with no end in sight of RTO for them?
A large percentage of the company is still "FTE Remote" and am wondering how long do in-office employees have to stress about layoffs while remote employees continue to work at home.

It's now been two days back in the office for most everyone, except for those who foolishly ignored return to office it and will soon be fired. Ladies, you used your free one-day no performance improvement plan issued pass yesterday. Now that we are back working in the office it's expected your attire is professional looking. It definitely does not look so when you are seen in the office wearing sweatpants, oversize sweatshirts and ratty tennis shoes like you normally did working at home.

“To create connection* – with each other, with what people need to thrive in their everyday lives, and with stories and experiences that matter.”

• Our company’s product enables people to do anything they want from anywhere in the world at anytime of day or night - and to prove it, we require our employees to suffer lengthy commutes into dangerous parts of town in aging buildings 5 days a week to join their Teams call from their desk. We call this “Collaboration”.

Three locations are being designated as primary “home offices”: Austin, Nashville, and either Oklahoma City or Santa Clara.
Employees outside of these locations will be classified as remote for the purposes of promotion consideration and internal role changes.

In parallel, employees below I8 who choose not to relocate to one of these locations will be targeted for layoffs.

They expect to let everyone else ride it out until they leave Dell, but don't expect any growth.

Exceptions are expected, and this should not be interpreted as a blanket action for all sub-I8 roles. Outcomes will likely vary by organization and team, and specifics may differ accordingly.

So now the plan is to demolish the Plano site and build a brand new 45-acre campus from scratch. For one of the most levered companies in the world, still buried under massive debt.

This is the same leadership that burned hundreds of billions on T-Mobile, DirecTV, xandr, and WarnerMedia (among others). The same person making another massive, irreversible capital bet. And we’re supposed to believe this time it’s different?

What makes this even worse is the human cost. Over the last two years, employees uprooted their lives and relocated from all over the country to Dallas because the company told them to. Now leadership is moving locations again like a shell game, sc--wing over the very people who did what they were asked. No apology. No accountability.

And let’s ki-l the lie about the employee survey. It did not say “build us a new office.” It said people don’t want to be in offices at all, ever. Spinning that into a multi-billion-dollar campus no one wants or needs is insulting.

We also just lit $100 million on fire upgrading the Dallas office a few years ago. Add that to the pile.

At this point, the board can’t pretend they don’t see what’s happening. These decisions and their outcomes are public. If they continue to allow this, they’re complicit in the value destruction.

Employees will pay through lost bonuses and broken trust. Shareholders will pay through debt and wasted capital. And leadership will keep doubling down because no one is stopping them.

This isn’t strategy. It’s reckless. And it’s long past time for the board to intervene. End RTO, divest from the useless office space and improve the balance sheet. It’s not that hard to understand.