#pip

Lots of good info sharing and advice sharing here as IBM ramps up PIPs and RAs to levels no one thought possible. In 38 states below it might be a very good idea to record all mtgs with your mgmt. to protect yourself and your rights.

In the United States, you can legally record a conversation without telling the other person in 38 states and Washington, D.C., provided that you are an active participant in the conversation. These are known as one-party consent states, meaning only one person (you) needs to consent to the recording.

https://www.rev.com/blog/phone-call-recording-laws-state)

It remains a federal crime to record a conversation that you are not a part of (e.g., leaving a hidden device in a room to eavesdrop on others).

States Where You Can Record Secretly (One-Party Consent)The following states allow you to secretly record conversations you participate in:

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Georgia
Hawaii (Note: Requires all-party consent if the recording device is installed in a private place)
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont (Has no specific state statute, so it defaults to federal one-party rules)
Virginia
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

What is the point. All they have to do is wait for 3 months and LR you without any explaination.

Second-line manager here.

We’re getting pressure from above to put some team members on PIPs.

There are likely to be a lot (and I meant, A LOT) of RAs before December.

Stay safe, guys.

There are going to be some hidden RAs in all BUs using PIPs.

Record any 1:1 with your manager and any document showing your performance.
Save all your emails and keep them safe.

If you are on PIP you are a target (you are going to be fired from Indian Business Machines).

Save as much as you can from this sh---y company.

During my most recent Talent Assessment, my manager left No for Expectation Met.
I discussed about this in my 1:1 to know the reason behind this feedback. Didn't receive any constructive response and got a standard response. I was informed the next steps would be HR would be involved with weekly tracking. This whole thing has been a shocker to me as I'm working on high impact project now and delivered good in the last quarter.
I asked if it's part of PIP and was told I'm being setup for success and it's a procedure by HR to correct the course of action for the Talent Assessment result.

What can I expect next and how long do I have before they go through the lay off procedure which I'm kind of expecting at this moment.

Y’all, I know that the PIPs and RAs across the board are truly unsettling, and in many cases, just wrong. On the flip side, the amount of incompetence is mind blowing - people lack fundamental product and business skills here. Very concerned about we are all gonna get it if we don’t get it together.

This is embarrassing, but I didn’t have any job lined up, so I had to choose PIP while actively searching. I found this website and others experiences... they completed every PIP task and still got terminated. Is it really out of my control?

most teams understaffed, then on top of that MLRP PIP and insulting feedback from those who know nothing about the subject matter every year, depressing campus environment, constant turning employees against eachother all for 1-2 % hikes, what is the point? who is actually doing any work? is any work needed? then constant quitting of people, constant hiring, no stability, manager changes ,role changes org changes , staffing process change, polaris change, this change that change — how are we all just pretending this is normal? where are the human leader voices?

I’ve been on pip - does anyone know how it works? Is it basically 30 days, then you meet with HR and if your manager doesn’t take you off pip, you do another 30 days with a HR person and then after that you’re fired?

1. No severance if you’re fired after pip?
2. If you don’t beat pip after 30 days, what are the chances you beat it in day 31-60?
3. Is the goal to get off PIP just try to deliver as many deliverables as possible?

Any thoughts would help here

There are a few PIPs in Bangalore (India).

So as many people here. Today, early morning 1:1 with manager. Buddy...You are on PIP!
1 month PIP in European country. Software.

https://techrights.org/n/2026/09/01/PIP_Layoffs_at_Microsoft_Even_in_India.shtml

Already posted on reddit. Posted here for stats.

US. Software

European, 32.

I was indentified as LP (Low Performer). PIP goals are not clear at all.

My manager was always very friendly with me but not clear at all with my performance in the project.

Adding myself to the list: Sudden PIP after years of being rated "exceeds", getting bonuses, equity grants, etc. Demographics-wise, caucasian, over 60.

If this happens to you (and it could, even if you don't think so!), do NOT take it personally. It is not a reflection on you, your value as a person, or your potential.

Presumably in a month or so, we will discover what life as an ex-IBM'er is like...

When we’re on a PIP, is it necessary to put in the effort to meet the goals, or is it not worth it? Should we just do the bare minimum and leave it at that?

So many people in their mid career age are resigning. Add to that the number that have been PIP forced out and we won’t have anyone in their 40 year age left. I guess people have realized the promise of the pension is no longer real. I for one have seen too many people forced out after decades of high assessments to believe they’re isn’t a real effort to force people out before they can retire at 55.

Do we expect cuts, whether as RA or PIP, to take effect (i.e. victim out of the company) at the end of September, before the start of 4Q2026?
If so, when would the people affected likely find out?

Are departures that we are seeing on LinkedIn considered as #Exxodus 3.0? Or just PIP/PIL employee squeeze.

Will I lose my RSUs if I am PIPed and fail the PIP?

For the influx of PIPs coming in, where are you located and which BU? Before someone starts yelling “WHY DO YOU WANT TO KNOW?”, it’s because this would help folks in these countries/BU to know what’s coming and start looking for new roles.

As others here I'm on PIP. First time on this strange improvement plan program...

I may have passed my PIP but I doubt it.

Education was a measurement and I still have a few Stand and Delivers to submit.
Met with manager at 2week interval and never again. We began focusing on the other PIP objectives ie, ensuring good customer interaction, presentations, etc.

I actually helped move project from POC to deployment as I am an AI FDE

Currently onboarded at customer and manager makes statements like “OP will continue to help get this to prod” “OP is getting contractor term extended for this deployment”.

I feel the uncertainty creeping on me and I just don’t know what to expect.
I’ve been PIP’d before and passed. That one was a 45-day PIP that I completed in 30-days. 90-days was a bit different.

What should I really expect come Tuesday?
What are some things I should do before then?

I’m in Texas if that helps.

I'm not even trying anymore. Most of my time is spent on the job search, since I know that no matter what I do, I'll be shown the the door at the end. I used to give it my all and then some every single day and I still got put on a PIP. I simply don't give a single damn anymore.

Failing a PIP means always to get separated from the company??

Only Elite Human Capital could think this is a good idea: Everyone in the bottom 15% of whatever nonsense metrics they're using this week (whichever ones the right people can game properly) are getting automatically PIP'd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IBM_Employees/comments/1vyloiq/low_performance_bucket/

As we all know they use PIPs to prep people for being RA'd. And all the rumors are pointing to a massive RA in September.

Are managers in European countries making up excuses to put people on PIPs and then lay them off?

First, this company doe not have "lay off". Instead, they do PIP. I think you all know the drill. They would say something BS and label you as "To be improved". Then your manager will tell you" Oh so sorry, but we have to put you in PIP. This is to help you. And they let you go at the end of PIP.

You probably ask why? Because this firm has been doing this for decades, and it is the cheapest way to let people go considering all the risks.

And they love hiring people with bureaucratic mindset. As long as you are good at politics, you should not miss this place. I believe you will shine here.

NOT FOR ME. Peace out.

Also, more layoff, sorry more PIPs are coming. Be prepared crewmembers. You know, it is in the memos.

I'm unsure what to expect after meeting my PIP goals. Hope, everything will be ok. I really need this work to feed my family.

Is it just a coincidence that literally 4 weeks after the giant IBM stock implosion caused by AK and his incompetent management that this board is filled with posts of people and entire teams getting put on PIPs, terminated etc ? IBM is beyond desperate to reduce headcount without having to pay out one cent...you can see and smell the desperation. But it's also amazing the number of people who no longer GAF about IBM , do the bare minimum, and say they are just floating along for another 1 or 2 years until they get forced out. IBM should add DGAF to their name.

Europe country. PIP today.

What was the NSI percentage for 2026, and what’s the allowance for passing the ones taking PIP?I mean what’s the target headcount for 2027?

Do those put on PIPs receive severance benefits similar to a layoff situation?

Finally, I got my first PIP today. Even that I was doing lot of work and in my opinion I was top performer finally my manager decided that I deserved a PIP... Crazy company... I guess, all the posts saying RAs in September are gonna be true...

I was put on a PIP this early morning after 1:1 with my manager.

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel...

Hi,

My manager sent me an email with PIP goals. Should I sign the document or I can reject it?

They told me is to improve my skills but after reading all the threads I think the idea is to RA at some point...

Are they a thing?

One comes with a nice safety net, the other is a certain kick in the behind with nothing.

Or is it useless to even try?

I saw a post with 21 days listed as the decision timeframe. Some countries seem to be told 7 days. What’s your experience ?
Also, when is your last day on payroll if you choose the PIL? If you are eligible to retire, do you retire the day after you leave with PIL?