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I've made the decision

Made it through the last round of RIFs but decided to retire if I'm not RIFed in 1Q2026. No reason to keep training people who can't follow instructions. No reason to have output that is ignored or manipulated. No reason to appease yet another new department "leader" who is begging to be propped up to collect a huge salary.

It is time to go. Fortunately for me, having been through years of RIFs, we saved CASH all along the way and have a few years salary in the bank. Health insurance taken care of too. Time to look for something new after a break from VZW. I had a good 24 year run.


Q4 Earnings announced in 15 days! Predictions? Jan 30, 2026

  • Customer loss over 500,000 for the year
  • Blame Apple on phone availability hindering sales.
  • Cite the RIF as an OPEX cut and indicate there will be more change
  • Gloss over the outage and blame it on something rather than take ownership.
  • Somehow buying Frontier and laying off more employees will set us up for success.
  • Latest JDP network report shows Verizon as #2 or worse in all but 5 regions.
  • Word salad around being customer centric, setting the foundation and other nonsense that will be meaningless.

What else can they say? VZ is hurting big time right now. Employees won't even know "the plan" until Feb 5 according to our java drinking cowboy.


The Big Outage Theory

Here’s a likely scenario for what caused this outage:
1- Most managers have no expertise or practical experience in the department they’re managing and therefore cannot accurately assess the competency of their direct reports
2- They have experienced people on their teams who go about doing their job quietly because it’s no longer new to them and no longer a big deal so they don’t talk it up
3- They also have newbies who talk up what they’re doing because it’s new and challenging to them
4- RIF time comes and they decide to RIF the quiet experienced person because in their mind the newbie is some superhero who told them how they overcame all the challenges.
5- New challenging work enters the queue but the experienced person is no longer there so it gets assigned to the newbie
6- Oopsie! We have an outage!


Laid off today

Got the boot today, best thing every happened to me. Thank you Citi! They plan on canning everyone on Transformation projects. They said lay off are due to AI. What AI? All data exists in excel sheets and not even applications.

Citi doesn't care to truly transform anything. Only so little of consent order was done, I highly doubt they ever had intentions of completing anything. It's a show horse.

Still baffles me how complete id--ts who know nothing are always retained with zero critical thinking. No smart or good employee will ever work at citi in right circumstances. Retention is 100% for a certain type of employees


Insult to injury

Not sure what if anything can be done but..
VZ has continued to have union workers serve as “set up” managers before and after RIF (still as of today) in same exact management job. Is that getting leaner or simply a cheat day for Schulman Inc. is there a discrimination case there??


RIFed employees - how are you holding up?

It’s the second “working” Monday morning of the year. The first week back from the holidays is just over, and now reality sets in. How are you doing?
I have about 10 applications to other companies in a “submitted” status. I had one interview in December that I thought went very well but I haven’t heard back from yet. I am grateful to have the time with my family, but this morning I’m feeling dejected. Yes, picking myself up by my bootstraps, but looking for some candor here. Working here for 23 years, it’s like I imagine a divorce to be, feelings are up and down. I even miss the commute. Probably the routine, really.
How about you?


Cloudhead Games is facing major layoffs, 70% of studio laid off

This has been confirmed in a statement on social media, where CEO Denny Unger revealed that "due to industry forces beyond control" the developer is being forced to lay off around 70% of its staff, with the cuts happening as of tomorrow, January 7. 30% of the developers will remain employed to "continue the mission."

https://www.gamereactor.eu/pi---l-whip-developer-cloudhead-games-is-facing-major-layoffs-70-of-studio-laid-off-1656613/


Here we go again layoffs

I mean why do we need to deal with this again .Hearing now they want to riff about 10-15,000 more in April after the merger.Like sitting on the edge of seat.At this point thinking everyone starts looking for a job to jump ship if possibly comes up.Cause this is no way to live .I mean we’re all like we survived it’s over .Now new year it’s not over yet round 2 then what round 3


Cobra insurance mistakenly cancelled and very long holds with Verizon Benefits Center

I was rif'd on Dec 19 and Verizon mistakenly cancelled my insurance as of Jan 1. Anyone else have problems with their insurance coverage? They had to submit paper work to reinstate my insurance. I was on hold to get through to Verizon Benefits Center for almost an hour.


RIF

No suprise that they have given out a lot of 4 ratings to tenured folks as part of the curve.
How does this affect RIF coming up?
Severance policy is not too clear it mentions that if your job is eliminated as part of re org you are entitled to severance , however there is a bullet that explains (perfomamce based firings dont apply) question is what if you have a 3,4 overall rating. Had even a 2 in ome section (i know citi makes 0 sense)

How will this impact the folks who have bwwm forced 4s?


team meeting sounded ominous

Boss repeatedly thanking team for their efforts and that this will be tough year. Almost like good bye thank yous. I think boss knows their name is on the rif list.

Oh also when I went to put pto in system my title was changed to a lower title then what I have (or thought I had lol )

Good times. Don’t stress out nothing you can control. So just keep your head down and punch the clock until they tell you to stop (while also applying externally).


RIF’s/Layoffs starting today

“HAPPY” New Year… or not, we will see. With the holidays wrapping up, it seems inevitable that all of the layoffs and reductions will start ramping up now seeing that all of the decision makers are back at work after the holiday.

Any ideas what depts will be impacted first? All we know if from the info shared on the all employee call is that Freier’s group (consumer) is “up first…”

I wish the best outcome for everyone during this poor-feeling time of uncertainty.


B2B COMP CHANGED

B2B after the RIF has gone to sh-t. They made it so it will now push us out and make goals harder to obtain. We now have to retain our customers along with add new clients with semi new metrics. If you have a customer leave we now are punished for not managing that account an makes our goal so much harder . This is the end of the road. You will see r2b gone soon as well.


Questions for those who've been RIFed before

From Verizon or anywhere else. What happens if you get a job right away, can you work at another place and still get your severance? On the opposite end of the spectrum, if the severance you got runs out before you are able to find another job, are you allowed to apply for unemployment?


Toxic Leaders

Beware of toxic leaders. It is usually a leader who has limited knowledge or understanding or have reached a level of leadership without working specifically in the field. If leadership at Anthem or CarelonRx tell you something in a call, follow up in writing and reiterate what they said. I have been flat out lied to repeatedly about what was promised to me or about tasks that I was assigned to. They attempted to functionally demote me until I documented it and presented to HR. They have continuously added more tasks and more job roles to the scope of my work to fill the gaps left by RIF. All I can say is communication in writing , documenting and advising them when they violate policy or law is crucial. The sad part about it is until you have been directed by a leader or by HR otherwise, you still have to do the task or they will use that as cause to give you poor reviews or let you go. Watch your back at this company. Not every leader is like that but there are plenty of them.


Severance agreement not received by HR?

Long story short, Rif'd 10/30 with last day 11/13. Signed and email severance agreement 11/14 and received response 7 minutes later saying they received the agreement and are reviewing it.

Fast forward today, call the hotline and they said they didnt receive and are opening a case with People Team.

Anyone else go through this ringer?


Verbiage in Job Posts on Intranet

I have only reviewed a few postings so far, but now included is “Please note that per our policy on hybrid/virtual work, candidates not within commuting distance from the posting location(s) will NOT BE CONSIDERED for employment, unless an accommodation is granted AS REQUIRED BY LAW.”

Fully remote are stuck in their positions unless there is a policy change or they are RIF’ed.