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California refineries

Due to the fire at el segundo and the move from San ramon, does it look like we will be shutdown? MW seems to be wanting to sell assets. Is Richmond and El Segundo for sale? After the waves it feels like a lot of folks lost their jobs in manufacturing. Are we doomed? Should I look for other work? The workload we’re about to have looks incredibly high thanks to the bs McKinsey id--ts .


I should have researched this place better

This is the only job I’ve ever had where I have to worry about layoffs every two weeks. I’ve worked for other major banks, I’ve worked in other industries too, and nowhere was it ever this bad. I thought joining Wells Fargo would be a great career opportunity for me. Instead, I’m already looking for something else because I’ll be damned if I’m going to stay at a place where layoffs are such a normal, accepted thing that they happen every 14 days. I can lose the pay raise I got by moving here, I don’t even care, but I’m not staying.


Merger?

Has anyone been reading the media articles bout the information sharing plan on our US Foods website and upcoming merger with PFG in the media? Will that cause layoffs? Will that be a chance for the powerful on the board of directors to select better executives? Some of our executives have sh-t the bed on some of their decisions and do not have the gonads to do what needs to be done. We do like our CEO and he has proven his worth on the stock. But some of his posse don't share his intelligence nor his heart. They may just not give a fu-k about what they need to do since they will be given a golden parachute when the merger arrives. Let's all hope the board reads these posts and proves what we are writing is true and just terminates the d-mbasses for dereliction of duty without the severance.


No matter how hard you worked, no matter how much you believed in the firm before, you can never feel safe again.

I've been working at Jones for nearly my entire professional career, right out of college, for the past decade. I worked hard to prove myself in the eyes of leadership and my peers. Copious amounts of overtime, volunteering for more work repeatedly, going above and beyond in every capacity I could with a ratio of 9 "Exceeds" to every "Meets". Promoted numerous times with several lateral moves, always "working my way up" however I could, because I believed in the company and wanted to be a part of something truly great.

But in that time...

I was hired with a title and grade two below the role I actually filled, told I had to work my way up only to watch others be hired directly to the higher title at higher pay than I made when I was eventually promoted. I was repeatedly paid less than the minimum for my paygrade, with more than one "Bring to Minimum" increase. I was denied increases outside of annual reviews, despite being below the minimum. I was never offered a partnership. I was converted to salary without my consent, with the expectation I continue working heavy overtime, in addition to regular weekends. I was denied opportunities for promotions due to my volunteer projects. And now, I have been ISP'd.

I stayed all these years because I felt secure, and I truly viewed many of my coworkers as friends. When I first toured the campus, in my interviews, even in the lunchroom I heard repeatedly how Jones was "one of the best places to work" and "never did layoffs", "the culture is incredible", and that "the happiest feeling in life is feeling safe and secure in your job, never worrying about putting food on the table" (exact quote). The older associates said this is somewhere you don't have to job hop, you want to stay here your whole career, it's that good. And, like an absolute mo--n, for the past decade I believed them.

This past month I've felt a lot of things... Anxiety. Shock. Frustration. Fear. Depression. Unappreciated. A number on a spreadsheet. Like my whole career has just been reset. But most of all? I feel betrayed. I've been stabbed in the back, and I feel sick to my stomach for it. And it's not only me - I've spoken to a dozen of my friends who all got the same news, and a dozen more who are heartbroken to see us all leave so suddenly (many of which received demotions). Being locked out of the building, having our names scrubbed from projects and tickets, being forgotten and shown firsthand that we never mattered. Thousands of years of cumulative experience purged in the name of profit for the select few at the very top.

My world view has been shattered. I wish I could go back in time and tell myself to treat Jones as a stepping stone and take the opportunities presented elsewhere along the way. Instead, I was walked all over for years and the only thing I have to show for it is a lovely pink slip, and a crippling fear for my family's future. I've put out dozens of applications in the past month, putting my all into finding something new, and haven't gotten a single interview. They let us go into one of the worst job markets they could. At the start of this year, I thought I was going to retire from Jones... Now I don't know what my life will look like 6 months from now, let alone 10 years from now.

My faith in the firm's direction is gone; the company culture is dead.
If you're still there and thought you were safe, you will never be able to feel that way again.


I’m completely exhausted from trying to keep my head above water

I’ve been working my a-s off for months, convincing myself it might make a difference when they decide who to let go. Deep down I know it doesn’t, but it’s the only way I can ease my mind, telling myself I’ve done everything I could to keep this job. It’s so hard to find something else, and honestly, I’m terrified.


Layoffs: Reality for the folks older than 50 l

New data shows 24% of people laid off between ages 50-65 can't find another job.

Those who do? Average 11% pay cut.

Men take 15% hits, women 7%.

The wait is worse: 55-64 year olds spend 26 weeks unemployed vs 19 weeks for younger workers.

Many settle for jobs without benefits, crushing retirement plans.

Half of older workers expect gradual retirement transitions.

Reality? 70% get the full stop treatment.

Save young or work forever. There's no middle ground.

  • Source: Center for Retirement Research/Boston College/WSJ

Year End Objectives

Seems like there’s a much bigger emphasis this year on explaining how you’ve met your goals and objectives that were submitted at the beginning of the year. Still need to work on day-to-day tasks and can’t always be expected to meet every goal. Seems like they’re looking for reasons to get rid of people.


National Wealth, Not Offshore Profit

First of all, my heart goes out to our European, Canadian, and Singapore colleagues.
Great friends, fine professionals, and true believers in EM core values.

Across forums, industry conversations, and personal exchanges, one theme keeps repeating-
Offshoring and particularly to low cost labor markets like India.

Let’s be clear:
Our operations are built on national resources—oil, gas, and energy that are the wealth of nations. These resources, while vital, come with environmental costs we all understand. And yet, instead of converting this sacrifice into livelihoods for the people of the very nations whose resources we exploit, we see record levels of offshoring.
This is not the same as IT or banking outsourcing. Natural resources are not just corporate assets, they are national wealth.
To offshore the jobs tied to them is not just cost-cutting, it is economic plunder.

The scale of this shift is hidden. Official headcount reports disguise the reality. If we include not just GCC centers but also third-party service providers, the imbalance is shocking-only a fraction of roles remain in base countries, while the majority are quietly shipped overseas.

In reality, No MC, C-suite, or shareholder vote should decide who benefits from national resources. That right belongs to the people and their governments.

The problem is, most people, even in government, don’t know the scale of what’s happening. It is happening quietly, and rapidly.

That’s why every one of us has a role to play. Even small actions matter:
• Write to your representatives.
• Raise awareness within your networks.
• Push for transparency in how resource-linked jobs are allocated.

This is not about one company or one industry. This is about ensuring our resources create futures for our people, not just cheap profits offshore.
If we don’t act now, we risk handing away not only our jobs but our children’s right to benefit from their own nation’s wealth


Cloud: Hitting all records, but...

Google Cloud has laid off employees despite record-breaking financial results. Workers in user experience and design roles were among those affected, with several posting about the cuts on LinkedIn. Notifications were sent via email earlier this week.

The layoffs come as Google Cloud reported $13.6 billion in Q2 2025 revenue, up 32 percent year-over-year, with operating income hitting $2.8 billion, up 33 percent. The company holds 13 percent global cloud infrastructure market share, ranking third behind AWS (30 percent) and Microsoft (20 percent).

CEO Thomas Kurian recently emphasized the company’s $106 billion backlog and focus on operating discipline, saying Google Cloud is outpacing AWS and Microsoft in revenue growth.

The layoffs add to a broader industry trend, with more than 90,000 tech workers losing jobs in 2025 so far.


Wake up and act before it’s too late

Folks, the real problem is short-term thinking versus long-term vision. Under the guise of annual PDS reviews, promotions, and showing immediate business value, we’ve completely lost sight of the long-term consequences.

This BTC offshoring is just the beginning. They’re bringing in people willing to work for a meal a day, and that’s the standard they’re setting. Other companies will follow our mistake, creating a trap for everyone.

Don’t wait until your job is taken away—fight against outsourcing like it’s a national emergency. You might survive the next 5–20 years, but what about the next generation? They could be left with no opportunities.

We can’t compete against 500–600 million graduates willing to work for peanuts. This isn’t just a corporate decision—it’s a systemic issue on the scale of capitalism versus communism, world wars, or global epidemics. These global capability centers are designed to destroy livelihoods to boost profits and deliver short-term shareholder gains.

Wake up and act before it’s too late.


I’m safe…am I?

Is it just me or are you starting to envy those who are leaving? I’m supposed to be relieved that I still have a job but…I’m not. Something is really wrong with the way they did this last layoff. A lot of old timers got the axe. This pension I’m hanging around for won’t be there, will it? It’s so clear to me now that I’m standing on quicksand.


I feel sick to my stomach after today

I need this job. My family relies on me. I can't afford to lose it right now. The fact that I have a one in five chance to be laid off is nauseating. And to think this is all because they don't care about us and want to replace us with cheaper workers overseas. I just hope they realize sooner rather than later that cheaper is cheaper for a reason.


When you think you're safe from a RIF - you are not.

The past year I've been settled in cruising, super productive, high touch customer engagement activities that were directly tied to a revenue stream, 5 rating all around, visibility up to my VP. The thought of a RIF was the absolute further thing from my mind. And guess what, I got that 15 minute appointment scheduled in my calendar a few Monday's back, and it all ended. So for everyone left at Oracle thinking you're untouchable because of what you do, think twice. You/we really are just a number and when your time is up, someone up high will punch your ticket and you'll get that tap on the shoulder from your manager.


Critical rule violations

Word on the street is they want more critical right after the contract has been settled and the job security for no layoffs per merger, but they need their quotas for criticals that just went up ! Again dealing with this company there always a get one over on the worker clause


Tuttle Crossing?

Customers keep asking me “when is this mall closing?” And “when will the sales start?” My coworker said that my store (Turtle Crossing in Columbus) is a top performing store but I get asked 10+ times if my store is closing. I have 5 children and 2 grand babies and 3 cats and a dog and a pig. I need my paycheck. I used to work at Sears, and then Jo-Ann Fabrics and Toys R Ys. I feel like a curse but I need my monies. Please tell me turtle crossing isn’t closing!


Think you can make it? Think again!

According to a survey by the Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies, nearly six-in-10 retirees (58%) retired sooner than planned. Among this group, 43% cited employment reasons such as job loss (16%), organizational changes (16%), job unhappiness (14%) and retirement buyout (9%).


Upcoming layoffs

As we all know, Thomson Reuters does massive layoffs every year in November. If you got a really good review on your midyear review, can you assume that you’re safe this year? Has anyone ever heard of someone getting a great review during their mid year review but still finding themselves in the lay off list that year?


Chevron saves those that don’t apply to jobs

While I’m sadden to not have gotten a role in my selection, I have learned that in round 2 a job has been saved outside of being applied. It hurts to learn the favoritism of upper management to save those that didn’t actually apply to their roles…take that HR!


Risk moving to crypto industry?

Had a recruiter ping me recently for a job with a "leading crypto" firm for grc work. Would be an 80k pay bump plus equity and full wfh. Too good to be true perhaps, but I'm doing my research.

What would you all do? I survived a few lay offs here but I know job security is not guaranteed anywhere; especially in crypto.