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sharing from LI:What If the Job You Applied For Never Existed?

What If the Job You Applied For Never Existed?
How long have you been searching for a job on LinkedIn?

Three months. Six months. A year.

How many resumes have you rewritten? How many cover letters have you tailored to a specific company? How many times have you clicked Easy Apply, watched the applicant count climb past 200, and waited for a reply that never came?

Now sit with a harder question.

What if there was never a job?

That question sits at the center of a real investigation. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has opened an inquiry into LinkedIn over allegations that the company advertised and profited from fake or misleading listings, the kind people now call ghost jobs, while selling Premium subscriptions to people who believed they were paying for a better shot at real work.

His office issued a Civil Investigative Demand. It wants LinkedIn's documents, internal communications, marketing, and verification practices. For context, LinkedIn reported roughly $17.8 billion in revenue last fiscal year. Independent studies cited by the state estimate that ghost jobs make up 20 to 33 percent of online listings. By the state's account, LinkedIn does not independently verify the hiring status of most postings on its platform.

A ghost job can be a role that was already filled. A role placed on hold. A role with no approved budget. A role posted with no real intention to hire anyone.

The listing looks real. The company looks real. The requirements look real. The silence that follows feels real too.

Here is who pays for that silence.

People who are out of work. People who are scared. People trying to keep the lights on, the mortgage current, and the kids fed. People over 50 who spent 25 years building a career on relationships and handshakes, and who now log in every morning to a feed that promises opportunity and hands them a scoreboard instead.

Many of them pay close to $40 a month for Premium because they believe it puts them in front of the right people. A better seat. An inside track. The investigation asks a blunt question about that seat. Were people paying to chase jobs that were never there?

LinkedIn is only the newest name in a longer story.

Look at Workday.

Derek Mobley applied to more than 100 jobs at companies that run Workday's screening tools. He was rejected every single time. One of those rejections hit his inbox at 1:30 AM on a weekend, sent by a system, for a job he had applied to days earlier. He sued. He is a Black man over 40 who also lives with anxiety and depression, and he argued that Workday's AI screened people like him out before a human ever looked at the file.

In May 2025, a federal judge certified his case as a nationwide collective action under the Age Discrimination in Employment Act. Then came the number that should stop everyone cold. In its own court filing, Workday disclosed that its system rejected roughly 1.1 billion applications during the period in question. Not 1.1 million. Billion. Workday's software reaches more than 65 percent of the Fortune 500.

The machine does not forget either. Modern hiring systems score you before a person ever sees you, and you never see the score. Recruiters log in to find everyone already sorted into tiers, top of the pile down to the bottom, and on high volume roles they often read only the top. The rest are never opened. Your application was scanned by software, ranked low, and buried. Your record then sits in the database long after the door closed, because retention rules keep it there.

Then there is Stanford.

Researchers at Stanford, Chapman, and Northeastern ran the largest independent study of AI hiring tools done to date. They examined more than 4 million applications from 3 million people across 156 large employers, all screened by the same vendor. They found that 26 percent of Black applicants and about 15 percent of Asian applicants had applied to jobs where the AI produced outcomes that meet the federal government's own definition of discrimination. Had the tool recommended Black and Asian candidates at the same rate as white candidates, 40,000 more applications would have advanced.

The shape of that finding matters most. When a single vendor screens for hundreds of companies, a rejection stops being one company saying no. It becomes the same algorithm saying no everywhere at once. Rejected by one, rejected by all. The bias then hides in plain sight, because it vanishes the moment you look at the totals instead of the individual roles.

Put the three together and a pattern steps forward.

LinkedIn is under investigation over whether people paid to chase jobs that may not have been real. Workday is defending a case built on its own admission that it rejected more than a billion applications by machine. Stanford has the evidence on how that machinery carries bias at scale. Different companies. Same layer. The layer that now sits between a human being and a paycheck.

There are two sides here, and both deserve to be stated plainly.

LinkedIn says its policies require job postings to be authentic and connected to real hiring. It points to verification tools, employer activity signals, and rules against misleading listings. Its position, in plain terms, is that it provides the tools and the disclosures and never promised anyone a reply or a hire. A verified company does not mean every role is funded. An "actively reviewing" tag shows recent activity, not a guarantee that anyone gets hired. This is an open investigation. LinkedIn has every right to answer it, and no final determination has been made.

Workday, for its part, has argued that it is not the employer and does not make the hiring decision. A court will test that argument.

Hold all of that. It is fair.

Now hold this next to it.

For years, we told people the problem was them. Fix the resume. Add the keywords. Network harder. Smile more. Stay positive. Their families asked why it was taking so long. The government counted them as a statistic. Friends wondered, quietly, what they were doing wrong. The whole time, a scoring system they could not see was ranking them, hiding them, keeping their record, and passing them over at a speed and scale no human hiring manager could match.

Think about what that does to a person. Especially someone over 50 who did everything the old rules taught them, who paid the monthly fee to stay in the room, and who is now told by software, without a word, that they do not make the cut. That is not a bruised ego. That is months of savings, sleep, and self-respect spent on a process that may have been closed before the first click.

This is bigger than one lawsuit against Workday. It is bigger than one study out of Stanford. It is bigger than one investigation into LinkedIn.

The people filling out these applications are not the ones who failed.

It's not the applicant.

It's the process.


Everything’s fine at Teradata

Things are completely fine at Teradata right now. No drama, no chaos, business as usual.

Honestly it’s kind of pointless sitting here commenting on this forum when nothing’s actually happening. People are just spinning themselves up for no reason.

I even have a friend who’s ex-Teradata and now at AWS who agrees with me he says it’s pointless to sit around anonymously whining online about stuff that isn’t even happening.

Meanwhile I’m over here enjoying a high-end meal at Javier’s in UTC. Steak was perfect, service was on point. Life is good.

Carry on.


Endless faffing about

The problem with DXC is that very few people seem to know what they're doing, and even those who do are often locked out because they don't have the permissions they need.

I spend longer on status calls listening to people say they don't know or aren't sure than I do doing any actual technical work. We're all just sitting around waiting for nothing to happen.

I'd probably quit if I thought this was going to continue forever, but I'm fairly convinced the whole thing will crash and burn before the end of the year. So I'm not about to walk away from the possibility of a redundancy package.

For now, the job is basically: dial into two status calls a day and listen to the same drivel on repeat. I have no idea what they are trying to deliver, that bit has been totally lost in all the faffing about everyone does around here.


Imperial Brain Drain

As there has been a steady stream of departures, the IOL brain drain continues. Lots of very talented folks from all levels of the organization leaving to pursue other options. It's been very interesting to watch all the unique opportunities that people have landed - some going to traditional integrated companies (Suncor, etc), others going to Midstream companies, smaller firms, renewable/low carbon energy, consulting, and more.

Many of those who had left before the announcement already seem to be making their mark with their new organizations, securing promotions, etc. It's been really great seeing people thrive at life and careers after Imperial.

For those that are still there, there's a great network of recent IOL departures across industry now, so keep in touch. And while not everything is perfect, the grass can be a lot greener elsewhere.


I want to assure everyone that Verizon is not the end

I took thr VSP in 2019. I used my severance to start my own business that is now thriving. It's very environmentally friendly and DEI. I found a huge plot of land in Mississippi and established a farm. We only use man and animal power so there's no pollution. In fact all my employees are required to live in on site housing and we produce our own food and clothing so there's no need for them to have cars. We're committed to supporting the black community. In fact, the vast majority of my workforce is black. Though we do have a small staff of non blacks that oversee operations from the offices that built in the big white house that came with the land.


Happy birthday U.S. Bank employee

G.K. wrote “Expectations may change. Experiences may evolve”. Such a passive aggressive tone. We get it G.K., you hate your employees. We’ve know that since day one. You’re going to push people to leave, lay people off and make the survivors as uncomfortable as possible.

Have a cookie 🍪


Ready for this week's announcements?

Y'all ready? I heard that more changes are coming and should get announced by month's end. This place is in decay. Never have I ever seen such constant chaos. But at least I signed up for the upcoming male empowerment hour led by Hope and Rus. That was allegedly court ordered due to gender discrimination.


This place is a toxic dump

The culture here is literally disgusting. I work in a matrix environment where my manager knows nothing of what I do. All my work is distributed by a ‘product owner’ who is the most incompetent person ever and always throwing the team under the bus for her own gain and could not make decision or do anything for the team to save her life. All she knows how to do is kiss a-s and play games. Constantly I am dealing with nasty politics from people like her. People make things so needlessly difficult here. No one wants to do their job they’re rather play petty games that it’s like pulling teeth getting anything done and makes every day miserable. It’s so exhausting and sometimes it makes me disgusted by the corporate rot. Yes every company has politics and can be nasty but this is pretty bad


It'll work out, trust me

I get that people are anxious about what's coming, but it's probably not going to be as bad as you think. There are so many other companies doing interesting work with better compensation and a much healthier environment. Leaving Centene might turn out to be the best thing that happens to you.


The Fall of a Telecom Giant: An Insider’s Perspective

This is an account of the systematic dismantling of what was once one of the greatest telecommunications companies in the United States. A company that once prided itself on network supremacy, unyielding customer value, and a vibrant culture of engineering excellence and true camaraderie has been reduced to an empty shell. What remains is a cautionary tale of corporate greed, institutional rot, and an absolute failure of leadership.

The Catalyst of Rot: The Hans Vestberg Era

The downward spiral began with the appointment of Hans Vestberg as CEO. Bringing a history of financial mismanagement and scandal from Ericsson, Vestberg shifted Verizon’s focus from robust engineering to a hollow facade of technological innovation. Under his tenure:

  • The Rise of Incompetence: The meritocracy was replaced by a bloated hierarchy of management, enabling internal factions to form, promote unqualified peers, and drain the corporate payroll.

  • The Verizon India Failure: A heavily criticized outsourcing strategy to Verizon India led to convoluted, bloated internal systems that decimated operational efficiency, viewed by insiders as a highly compromised arrangement that enriched the few at the expense of the network.

  • Technological Missteps: Heavy investments in dead-end technologies saddled the company with massive debt, causing unprecedented and lingering damage to the core network.

From Bad to Worse: The Chaos of Dan Schulman

Any hope that Dan Schulman would heal the company was quickly shattered. Instead of pulling the company out of its nosedive, Schulman’s brief tenure has plunged it into deeper chaos and anxiety.

  • Decimated Morale: By signaling widespread layoffs and failing to provide a clear strategic direction, Schulman has destroyed employee morale. Offices are now filled with uncertainty, confusion over the integration of new technologies like AI, and employees simply waiting for the axe to fall.

  • Performative Leadership: The executive layer has retreated entirely into self-preservation. On LinkedIn, leadership engages in performative posting about personal anecdotes or abstract technologies, entirely detached from the grim internal realities of the company.

A Culture of Grifters vs. Builders

Today, the line between leadership and the frontline is stark. True leadership has evaporated, leaving behind a culture of "grifters" rather than "builders."

  • The Burden on the Frontline: The actual work keeping the company alive falls entirely on lower-level employees, while middle and upper management act as glorified secretaries, demanding answers from subordinates to mask their own incompetence.

  • Institutional Silence: Fear dominates the management ranks. Leaders lack the valor and the skills to propose alternative strategies, prioritizing their own job security over actual guidance. This structural failure was recently reflected in historic lows across all categories in internal employee poll surveys.

The Imminent End

Verizon has lost its identity, stripped away the hardworking talent that built it from the ground up, and positioned itself for an inevitable sell-off to a larger buyer. While the executives responsible for this destruction will eventually float away on golden parachutes, they leave behind a broken legacy. This is a tragedy born of corruption, apathy, and the pursuit of personal financial gain over institutional greatness, a case study in how to destroy a legendary company from within.


Stressed Manager

My manager seemed very stressed out today while dumping work on me. He said that a big wave is coming on July 16 and that he does not know his or anyone’s future at this point.
I do not even feel like working for next two weeks. Problem is that he is still expecting us to work on full 100% throttle.

Leadership is creating very toxic work environment.


Heartland Gulf OD Bias Has Created Toxic Culture

Our OD’s bias has created a toxic culture work environment. His comments about people on our team and those that support our team are sickening. He is NEVER willing to give anyone a fair chance cause of what he hears from others and what he perceives. He is NEVER is willing to listen to other opinions and thoughts. Our OD will never be held accountable for his bias and comments that are toxic.


To those working in Retail

All of you folks should immediately start applying for new jobs.

Things will get worse and worse in the next few months.

Your resume won't help you either with this job as other telecom retail jobs also su-k.

Don't get complacent. The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side.

Trust me.

Why be in an environment where it is truly disgusting and toxic.


Is anyone experiencing a toxic work environment?

Is anyone experiencing a toxic work environment? I've noticed it's only getting worse for people. Managers are getting more demanding and criticizing almost every task. I know 5 people that were pushed out in the last few years. I currently know several people who are getting pushed and pushed to get more work done and they are strong ICs. There's not a lot of work/life balance left. I wonder if they are doing this in anticipation that there might be layoffs soon in the future.


June 17th - “consumer”

Live broadcast today, June 16th where it was stated June 17th announcements are coming. Impacted department: “consumer.”

I need the job, but also.. toxic environment…. Good luck y'all. Especially the ones with families.


Top Heavy & Toxic - Right?

Most every day, right, there's either a Sr Dir or AD role po$ted. RARELY do you see T3 - T5 postings in either Dig Product or Tech, right? Very few opportunies for promotions, right? I do reckon this company (right) doesn't have its priorities straight. The company should be hiring more of the people who are stressing in the trenches while trying to GSD in such a chaotic/'everything is the the top priority', so do it all' environment. It's becoming quite toxic and unsustainable. But...food truck day....right? Ain't it funny how so many people feel the need to include the word 'right' in every sentence? Or is it just me?


Guys, I need advice.

So I received 2 inconsistently meets reviews in a row. I started to turn things around, and then I made a mistake. The mistake got my manager in trouble. He's telling me that I will now get another bad review. I've heard that it's 3 strikes and you're out. My manager is telling me that it's up to HR, but I might make it. I asked for a heads up so I could resign before being fired, and he said he couldn't do that. Which way should I jump? I'm an older worker, and the job market is bad enough without the stigma of being fired. I heard from a coworker that if your manager wants to keep you, they can overrule HR. Not sure that's true in the current environment.


Culture at Vanguard

I will be starting with Vanguard in Plano in 3 weeks. Curious of the culture, in office environment, office amenities. For example, is there a cafeteria? Gym? Do most people work 8-5 in office? I had 3 interviews. 2 managers said “come in at 8, leave at 12:30 and finish the day at home. The 3rd manager said 8-5 is the minimum expectation.


The way I see things...

I worked as a developer in the Fusion Middleware area, first on the on-premise tools and later on Oracle Cloud.

My experience at Oracle was extremely negative. I believe a large part of that was because I am female, honest, and a highly competent developer.

Those qualities were not valued in Oracle development. Let me address each of them individually.

Female - There were no female managers or architects in the area where I worked. Management was dominated by Indian men from a culture where women are expected to be subordinate to men, and in my experience that attitude showed clearly. I worked for multiple managers who used the same kinds of tactics. They sabotaged demos I was giving by providing incorrect conference numbers, setting me up to demo on systems with bad network settings that caused slow screen updates, telling me to prepare slides for a two-hour session and then suddenly saying I only had one hour while pretending surprise that I had created slides because I had been instructed to do so. I was also once paired with another manager’s aggressive subordinate, who went first and then claimed I was demonstrating something different from what I had been told, making me appear unprepared.

I was undermined in many other ways as well. I was restricted in what I could work on, excluded from status meetings, denied information, given incorrect information, and subjected to every kind of obstruction imaginable.

Not everyone behaved this way, but enough men did that it became impossible to function normally. I was constantly forced into a defensive position. Although there were a couple of senior managers above me who supported me, my direct managers did not, and they had enough control to make it appear that I was the problem when I was not.

There were a few women I interacted with. Some, like me, were honestly trying to do their jobs. But one woman in marketing appeared to believe it was in her interest to undermine me with the men, and another woman who was very involved with one manager also helped set me up at one point. Because of that, I eventually felt I could not even trust the other women at the company.

Before Oracle, I had been a very successful developer at other companies and had received awards for my work. Oracle has serious cultural problems, and if you are a female developer, I would advise leaving the company. There is a much better life outside of it.

Honest - The managers were, in my opinion, largely incompetent. They were deeply insecure, and even the slightest sign of initiative beyond what they explicitly directed was treated as a threat. From what I observed, this was true of nearly every manager I encountered. They were paranoid, dysfunctional, and operating inside an equally dysfunctional environment. Managers would temporarily align with one another to sabotage employees or other managers they wanted to target. It genuinely seemed like they enjoyed doing this, and that much of their professional world revolved around schemes to damage someone else’s reputation or career.

By the end, I felt as though I was working inside an organized crime operation. The sabotage never stopped. One manager cultivated loyal enforcers who would do whatever he wanted to anyone he targeted. Unfortunately, I ended up under this truly toxic individual. Oracle moves developers around like interchangeable parts, and you often have no control over who you work for. This manager made s-xual comments toward me and treated me in a degrading way. He isolated me from others in the group and refused to assign meaningful work. In my opinion, he was deeply disturbed and manipulative.

Later, he worked with another manager and a woman connected to that manager to isolate me further and pressure me into writing a new application they intended to take credit for themselves.

There is no place for honesty at Oracle. If you want to be a thug and enjoy the idea of operating inside something that feels like a mafia structure, then Oracle may suit you. Honesty will not help you succeed there.

Extremely Competent Developer - If you are a strong developer who wants to build meaningful products and do real engineering work, Oracle is not the right place. I was an excellent developer. Earlier in my career, there were times when my abilities were questioned because I was female, but I was always able to prove myself and earn the trust of the men around me through competence and results.

At Oracle, competence was not appreciated. The managers I worked with valued loyalty above all else, and the people most loyal to management were often the least capable technically. They protected their jobs by flattering managers, attacking other developers, and helping management manipulate or undermine people within the company.

I was promoted once while I was there, but I believe that only happened because of intervention from a senior manager above me. Even while I had support at higher levels, the manager directly above me continued sabotaging me constantly.

I would have left earlier, but I had reasons for staying, so I continued trying to demonstrate what I could do, just as I had at previous companies. None of it mattered. Management remained determined to harass me regardless of my abilities.

I also saw other highly competent developers, including men, targeted in many of the same ways. My impression was that management feared capable developers because they themselves were incompetent, insecure, and uncomfortable with real technical discussions about products or code.

One important thing to understand is that none of this was obvious at first. The managers were skilled at hiding what they were doing until you started paying very close attention. They always had plausible explanations ready, and because you want to be cooperative and professional, you initially accept those explanations and move on.

For a long time, I had an application that I mostly worked on independently, and that insulated me somewhat.

My competence also allowed me to survive there longer than many people would have. My first manager gave me increasingly difficult assignments. Initially, I believed that meant he trusted my abilities. Later, I realized he was escalating the difficulty in hopes that I would fail. I believe he wanted to point to the “incompetent woman” and say, “See, she couldn’t handle the work.” But that never happened because I successfully completed every assignment I was given.

It is a deeply unhealthy place. If you dislike women, will blindly obey your manager, including sabotaging coworkers, and especially if you enjoy attacking people and playing dirty tricks, Oracle may be the place for you.

If you actually want to do real engineering work, almost anywhere else would be better.


5/19 Board Sentiment

Fear / uncertainty

  • Approximate presence: High before and during notifications
  • Examples:

    • Questions about emails
    • “1:1s”
    • Worry about notifications

Anger / betrayal

  • Approximate presence: Very high
  • Examples:

    • Criticism of leadership
    • Repeated complaints

Info seeking

  • Approximate presence: High
  • Examples:

    • Severance discussions
    • Notification questions

Speculation

  • Approximate presence: Medium
  • Examples:

    • Acquisition rumors
    • Nvidia/Cisco discussion

Dark humor

  • Approximate presence: Medium
  • Examples:

    • Leaderboard jokes
    • “DDAY” framing

Optimism

  • Approximate presence: Low
  • Examples:

    • Hoping “survivors” can rebuild