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Advice?

Starting a new role with the company for a senior position, I’m expected to be in office since I am near one of the pulse points.. what’s some advice you would give for someone starting off with the company and things you feel like your manager won’t tell you?

Does my screen need to be awake all day when wfh?


RTO and Salary

For those that believe that remote workers are running errands and doing laundry on "company time", most remote employees are salary. That means they are paid to do a job, regardless of the # of hours they work. Some might get all of their work done in 25 hours, and others might need to work 50+ hours. It is the job of their leader to evaluate their work and determine if they are doing the job that they were hired to do. They do not make OT, so if they actually do a load of laundry between meetings, they are not stealing company time. If they are in the office 40 hours/week it does not mean that they are completing more work.


Going into to an office to work with people not in the same office is d-mb

You all do realize most work from home people actually would go to an office if Verizon brought back our offices. I would but Verizon go rid of our building along with 20-30 other buildings over the last 10 years. My team is all over the country and no one lives in the same area... so going into a building to work virtually would be d-mb. Also, what is Verizon going to do fire all 12 people and keep 1 thats in a hub then backfill the 11 others or the 8 that are WFH? Its not as easy as you all think, getting rid of WFH or everything into a building would destroy workloads and knowledgeable assets already in place. Going into to an office to work with people not in the same office is d-mb, I thought all the climate change VZ activists would be protesting for protecting against my trucks carbon emissions going to an office anyways.

Credit goes to @c4+1k93pa0qm.


Work culture change - anyone noticed?

Back in those days…
It was rare to get called over weekends..
We all had a fixed lunch time, time to start day and end day..
We rarely carried work home…
Work never felt stressful..

Whereas now..
Day starts very early, ends way late.. even sometimes have to work on weekends.
With offshore have to accommodate their time, their holidays and the then manage work.. stressful..
Have to communicate with offshore over crying children, noise of television, or honking noise.
With mobile and laptop we carry work with us all the time.
I feel this is due to the cultural differences between the massive foreigners in the workforce who do not follow the same holidays and are willing to work anywhere anytime and however much.

Nothing against foreigners and I am a liberal but still, there are several red flags here with corporate greed and SHE making 25 millions every year. Work life has changed drastically, my work life is almost over but I fear for what kind of America do my kids get to live in.


Those who make light of keeping or losing your job...

Have you seen the job market?

Have you talked to those who are looking for a job?

Have you talked to those who have been looking for months or even more than a year to find a job?

It is a cr-p job market right now. Even in major metro areas like Des Moines, Minneapolis, Phoenix, etc.. Intelligent, professional, experienced, hard-working people can't find squat right now. And signs from the markets don't point to a turnaround anytime soon. And heading into EOY and holiday season is generally a slow time for hiring in any type of market.

And some of you need to get over this WFH! WFH! WFH! attitude. For several reasons. Not only do many companies hot have a strong WFH position, but don't presume you will just stroll into a job that even offers WFH. Guess what? You are not the only one fighting for the job. You think you are good, but are you the best? You feel you have excellent skills but are they relevant and current to today's world? Guess what? Being an expert at Excel is not the gold star it was 10 years ago.

If you have ANY hint or thought that your position will go away, if you do not have a nice nest egg on-hand, and/or a decent number of years for a nice severance period, you best start looking now while you still have the WF paycheck. And if you are part of a couple where both work at WF, one of you better already be walking out on the blank to jump somewhere else.


WFH works

Heard a rumor of 3 days/week and possibly 5 days/week starting Jan 1. Haven’t seen anything from corporate. Everything has been heresy. Teams are gonna fold. WFH works. We’ve been able to release the new online banking to 11 million customers while mostly WFH and during a pandemic. Tech buildings are chaotic with numerous distractions. We’ve said it many times, open floor concept does not increase productivity. It does the opposite. PUSHBACK PUSHBACK PUSHBACK!!!

Well said, @67a+1k4tc23cn.


How to Win

Requested severance a year ago and was denied. Started plan to quiet quit and leave in a year. Had 6.5 weeks pto that i used to drag out projects and be gone during critical times. They tried to get me to RTO. I gave them a doctor's note that had reqmts they could not meet so i stayed remote. I ended up implementing 1 CR before leaving this fall.
It was the easiest year i had ever worked while making other arrangements for myself.

Think strategically for yourself and plan ahead and remember you owe them NOTHING.


Portland WFH layoff extended through next year

A group of around 100 remote employees working in fraud and claims was told in January of 2024 that they would be laid off in the last quarter of 2025. Today they were told the layoff has been postponed through next year due to poor planning by the executive leaders. Basically they have been holding this over everyone’s head for two years waiting for them to quit so they wouldn’t have to pay severance, but they lost that game of chicken and are now backtracking (Average tenure in the group is 15 years). They hinted at hoping people would quit now multiple times in the meeting, saying “we understand if this doesn’t work for you and you need to quit, but you wouldn’t get your severance.” Just a stunning show of terrible leadership all around, bravo to the senior leaders.


Another di-k move.

Hey HQ, 1800 of you will be laid of next Tuesday. Have a good weekend but go ahead and don't worry about it, but we'll let you work from home. We will even make you work Monday without knowing. And thank you for everyone clapping and cheering for me when my kids told you I make bad Dad jokes. I am just a regular guy.


Why does it smell so bad

Has anyone nothing a horrible smell on all floors in Alpharetta..? It’s really distracting but especially the second and fourth floor. Maybe because that’s tech and IT and the people are overworked? It’s a mix of body odor and unwashed clothes. Very distracting and I’m thinking they just don’t have time or energy to bathe daily or laundry. Idk but I want to work home so bad the smell is extremely distracting from work and I often go to break room or work on patio just to get away.


HQ change that fuels our future

On Tuesday, we’ll share changes to our headquarters structure as an important step in accelerating how we work. This includes eliminating about 1,800 non-field roles—about 8% of our global HQ team. As we make these changes, I’m asking all U.S. HQ team members to work from home next week. Target in India and our other global teams will follow their in-office routines.


RTO: a massive failure

Well, we have dropped like a rock since the initial RTO 3x and are plumbing new lows with 5x. All the academics and studies are saying it’s a failure. The future workplace is remote. This is just the last gasps of a dying high cost business model. I bet in 20 years hardly any work is done in an office. Only select jobs are in person where FTF matters. But I digress, they want to preach disruption, well, enable remote options, create new products and services around it. It should be our bread and butter as we are a communications company.


My Counselor is pleased with my progress.....

Its true! I chatted with my counselor today, and it was great! I told her I'm off the bottle (barely drink at all anymore) and in fact I'm loving the job search! It's almost like Christmas, the thought of doing work I actually enjoy - in a new company with none of the BS Agile/Scrum/In-Office...(you fill in the blanks)

I was given a package 9/30/25. I've been going through the 5 stages. Yet, my counselor has told me I'm doing great! I personally am thinking - I dreaded the Tuesday after payday meetings ..... is this The One? Not anymore! Nope. And given my longevity at WF, I don't have to worry about getting re-employed right away.

You know the Mickey D's slogan...."I'm lovin it!". Well I don't even eat there, but now I'm living the slogan....there really IS life after WF! Even my wife has noticed the difference, and is giving me a lot more "attention"! Dang.....shoulda left years ago......


Verizon RIFs – Will Remote Employees Be Targeted First?

I’m hearing a lot of rumors about possible RIFs at Verizon, and I’m wondering if anyone knows whether remote or hybrid employees could be more at risk. Do you think Verizon might target work-from-home employees first, or is that just speculation?

I’d like to hear what others are seeing in their groups and whether RTO status is actually a factor when it comes to layoffs.


so how did we get hacked?

Cyber: F5 experienced the same breach in March 2021. In Nov 2021 they announced they’re doubling their India staff which is now 20% of their headcount.

The WFH engineering is entirely in India. Only pre-sales and service engineers in US. None of these cyber SME’s will investigate India or the Beijing operations but I bet they’ll find a previously unknown vulnerability.

BTW India outlaws VPNs and these dudes WFH on Huawei networks. What happens to encrypted data traveling through China where encryption is illegal? Good question - cryptologists don’t seem to know. Bet they had anonymous security groups and no one checked logs so they didn’t even know. 95% of breaches involve insiders - negligence or intentional theft. I call it the offshore 401K.