#rto

This last round of layoffs were brutal across the company and the area I work in got hit hard. I have mixed feelings as I still have my job (mostly care about health insurance) but the workload has doubled. I am close to retirement so I don't care too much if I get laid off. If this gets any worse, I will leave in a year to 18 months.

Sadly, I have lost trust in our Senior Leadership

• They want us all to come into work but if you look, most of them all work from their homes that are not in the Dallas area. Somehow its OK for them.
• They have shifted so many jobs to Poland and India but all the Executive Leadership jobs are in the US.
• They rarely promote team members in the US except for their Executive team.
• They don't allow any travel for the rest of us but they travel for "connecting with people". They barely connect with anyone in the US. They live in their ELT ivory tower.
• There is 0 value for your loyalty.

If you thought COVID was bad, that's nothing compared to the energy lockdowns now being pushed. The International Energy Agency now wants "alternating license plat restrictions" (among other things), where you're not allowed to be on the roads on certain days.

They also want to reduce all road speed limits everywhere, so that traveling by road is increasingly suffocating and slow.

Back to WFH for all the complainers, another L for the bootlickers and “leadership” who stay steady losing.

If you want to spend more of your time chilling at home and spending time with your cats, why did you apply to TIAA in the first place?

The 3 days rule has in place for years..they only started to enforce it for real recently.

Another reason to add for employees to quit, on top of several toxic reasons that AT&T created for the employees is the increase in gas prices. This is a goldmine for AT&T execs who want employees out. You'd think they'd come to their senses, noooo, they are very happy that the increase happens, because it will expedite the quitting. AT&T is not interested in retaining employees and customers. They recently announced to increase the plan of those grandfathered accounts. They do not care. They are hoping that you are TOO LAZY to move out of AT&T plan, and even if 20% do leave AT&T, they still get money from those 80% that are paying more.

So expect more RTO enforcement, even if gas prices reach $12 in CA or $8 in the SE.

April 1! You ready for the Hunger Games? 4 days in office 8 hours a day. Those microwaves are going to be cranking all day long. Seats will be hard to come by and those Focus rooms will be filled to the brim with all the “look how important I am” workers.

The Keyboard and mouse at each station will be filled with germs and who knows what other funky bits. And those bathrooms, oh those bathrooms will ripe with unbelievable smells.

On the other hand, the collaboration that will take place will be incredibly helpful to furthering the foundation of Tech and Risk across all teams. For once WF got it right. Only way to make it better would be to have everyone come in 5 days a week. That’s just a pipe dream at this point, I guess. But a dreamer can dream

Those who are too lazy to be in the office for 3-4 days a week don't care about their job and their career

Denmark is encouraging people to stay home and use less gas. Hmm...

Novel idea. Be green.

RtO can GTH!

The last week or so, on the "site visits" in workday it said something about "ODW" and now it says "as we transtion to enterprise to the enterprise platform, site visit reporting will be retired." Uhhhh what?

IF i had to make a guess, it's something to do with maverick going live in May but I could be wrong... I'd love to think that this means they won't be tracking anymore but... I can't see that happening, unfortunately.

They are probably - for some reason - going to take the site visits visual away from us so we can't see how many days we've badged in, that way people can't "plan" ahead of time for days/weeks they want to not go in, or some bs like that.

I keep an excel spreadsheet with my days because the badge readers are sketchy and I make sure to stay for at least an hour or so, that way I have literal proof that I WAS in the office if push comes to shove... "it says you were only in 3 days last week, how come" pulls up VPN logs and shows that i was connected to a dell internal network 5 days. Luckily I have access to my own VPN logs :)

A simple splunk querey can and does pull up those who ACTUALLY CONNECTED to a Dell network, btw. I've done it myself.

But, wtf does this even mean lol? I don't think tracking is going away because I feel like there would be an official email stating that?

LOL..

RTO ages like fine wine.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/people-urged-home-global-oil-091037252.html

Curious if others have seen low RTO compliance percentages explicitly referenced in their performance reviews and whether it impacted ratings. It feels like RTO adherence should be managed separately and not evaluated alongside tangible performance output.

Word is that anyone who is non-compliant with this quarter's RTO workstyle insights will be layed off. Only recourse is an ex-com stay. Time to start badging in or get your sad story ready and hope for the best.

Increase the in-office mandate right when gas prices are pushing people's budgets to the limit. Nothing says "we value our employees" like forcing them to choose between a paycheck and a tank of gas.

Friday tomorrow, you know what that means, focus room reserved. I’ll be there at 6am with my yeti cup full 3/4 Jack Daniels 1/4 Joe. I’ll spend the morning researching March madness picks and calling my bookie, from the privacy of my office of course. I’ll go for my 30 minute morning dump and then a walk to see some friendlies around 9. Obviously share the sauce. Around 11 I head out for a liquid lunch at a nearby watering hole then take a little siesta in the truck. When I wake up I head back inside to jiggle my mouse and watch March madness games. It’s 2pm before you know it and I’ve hit my 8 hours, weekend is here. Time to close up and head to the bar for a couple more drinks and a basket of wings while I cash my bets. RTO ain’t so bad, there’s really no pressure to do anything besides show up and check the box. Life is good.

Is WIM still 3/2? Any talk about going 4/1?

RTO for what reason ? Do these id--ts understand no work after a layoff ?

I think a lot of people feel constrained right now, and morale has taken a hit. That’s likely a big reason participation on this site is declining.

But make no mistake there has been a clear drop in participation here, and it’s hard to ignore the timing alongside Dell’s RTO push. Dell has the handcuffs on a little tighter than usual.

2.5 to 3 hours commuting daily, gas through the roof, plus all the other office expenses. I feel like an id--t for doing this. If RTO actually made sense, maybe I'd feel less bitter. But it's pointless. Counter-productive even. All the corporate spin has been hollow. Showing up feels like getting played.

does anyone know if people have been let go for not coming in the office

There is no way RTO is being enforced equally. The only people who are being forced to come in are the people on the phones. I walk the floors

I heard from my manager they are in the process of setting up IP tracking to determine how many hours a week you are in the office - presumably with end goal to have dashboard like 11 RTO days but now including how many hours your IP showed you in office.

Anyone have further details on IP or any other in office tracking being implemented?

I'm hoping this goes the same way as their development of badge in/badge out tracking which they were too incompetent to implement successfully, which is why we only have the badge in system now.

Current Understanding on Tracking
FTE - Badge swipe ins per month / 11
Contractors - Sapience Micromanagement Software

Layoff and RTO fatigue. The beatings will continue until morale improves or people quit.

Is anyone familiar with what circumstances must be met to qualify for an exception to remain home based? I’d like to know before submitting my request.

I overhead that all senior level grade 9 and above will be required to be in the office a minimum of 5 (count them) five days. This is to role model full RTO before making this mandatory for the rest of the employees.

Is this being reported on? Four days in the office is too much, the low morale in the office is ki-ling me.

Expectations are becoming so unrealistically high that I'm sure they're setting us up to fail.

Popular Stank Patrick's sayings and their real meanings.

"May the road rise to meet you." – Have fun on your RTO commute

"A best friend is like a four-leaf clover: hard to find and lucky to have." – You'll have a chance to make friends in the office.

"May you live as long as you want, and never want as long as you live." – Stop stealing office supplies.

"May your heart be light and happy, may your smile be big and wide, and may your pockets always have a coin or two inside!" – Two coins. That's your raise.

"Don’t be breaking your shin on a stool that’s not in your way." – You're not getting workmen's comp.

"May your blessings outnumber the shamrocks that grow." – Yeah, there's a lot of mold in the buildings but we're not cleaning them.

“Innovate, use the latest tech, develop the latest tech. Now hurry up and go into the office instead of working remotely.” Talk about old school. Yet we try to sell that we are on the ‘cutting edge’.

Employees of Intel not in alignment with RTO will begin to be culled starting in April.

They keep selling us on collaboration and team work. Here’s the reality for many of us:

1. Our teams are spread out over many locations. Some of us are now forced to work alone in a small 4x4 cube surrounded by people we dont know or work with at all.

2. Being forced to sit in a small cube constantly distracted by loud employees from other orgs is not collaboration. It's distractive and annoying

3. I waste 15 hours every week driving to a building where the quality of my work is suffering

4. More sick days. I'm constantly surrounded by sick people. I never used my sick time WFH. Now I will use them to their full availability

5. I used to work more than 40 hours WFH because it was convenient and I felt obligated due to being allowed to WFH. That ended with RTO. I'm not going the extra mile any more for a company that treats me like a child and babysitting service, while lying to me about collaboration and RTO

6. I have spoken to so many employees who already have one foot out the door. As soon as the economy switches back to a more friendly employee environment, schwab is going to lose a lot of talent

Nobody likes working for this company anymore. I dont know of a single employee who happy at schwab now. Walt and now Rick have turned this place into a soulless, stale company that only cares about the stock price where the executives get fat stock options and bonuses.

I’m hearing mixed messages. Does y’all have the facts?

Great article on the Hill about how RTO initiatives are sabotaging productivity because the office is a noisy, distracting time-su-k:
https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/5775420-remote-first-productivity-growth/

But as we all know, BB's motivation for RTO was never about productivity; he's trying to drive attrition so that he can get costs down and sell off the parts for cheap:
https://www.itpro.com/business/business-strategy/business-execs-just-said-the-quiet-part-out-loud-on-rto-mandates-a-quarter-admit-forcing-staff-back-into-the-office-was-meant-to-make-them-quit-but-this-quiet-firing-practice-could-easily-backfire

Has anyone heard anything lately on if/when they are going to push for us to return to office again

Wait being a inflexible employer doesn't get you productivity gains?

https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/5775420-remote-first-productivity-growth/

" The Flex Index finds that fully flexible companies grew revenues 1.7 times faster than mandate-driven firms from 2019 to 2024, even after adjusting for industry and size. "

It's amazing how many low-IQ people there are at Dell, many of whom are on this board.

For the last time, once and for all, Dell's medieval RTO policy was NEVER EVER EVER intended to increase productivity, improve team cohesiveness, or any one of the lies and propaganda vomited out by executive leadership.

It was ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS intended to make your life a living he-l, so much so that you ultimately quit on your own. This way Dell doesn't have to pay severance, nor does it have to incur any negative publicity as a result of wide-scale layoff announcements.

It's a BAIN trick. It's greed. It's selfishness. It's a lie, but it is today's Dell. Dell is doing everything it can to reduce headcount at the least cost possible. Get that through your heads. It's the only cohesive strategy leadership has right now.

Three hours round trip, every day. I need this job, so I put up with everything RTO has brought. It's pointless, costly, and drains my time and energy. But with so few alternatives, I don't have much choice. Not once did I expect leadership to reconsider. They know most of us are cornered, and they're counting on it.

Supposedly they're cracking down on coffee badgers... anyone here this?

Does Wells have the ability to track hours at the office?

Why would a company that makes money from supplying computers to home workers mandate a policy that returns all worker to return to the office a minimum of 3 days a week?

You would think that, as a computer company, HP would encourage remote working to be an example for other companies to take note on how they can have remote employees too. HP would then continue to have a sales bo-m (like they did in 2020) on laptops to supply workers.

Bottom line, HP wants to justify having large useless buildings by filling them up again with employees.

I despise coming in 4 days a week. I get to wake up 1.5 hours early and drive for an hour, for what? I get to fake social interaction with distant department members who don't want to be here just like me. I get to spend $20 on parking. I get to spend immeasurable amounts of money maintaining a sh---y professional wardrobe that doesn't get used outside of work.
What benefit does anyone gain from this besides BNY having an excuse to lay some people off?

Before the shill bots come out of the woodwork, prior to COVID, my team was 2 days a week. There's no RTO, it's just increased. I'm not returning to anything.

3 days a week wasn't bad, I'd at least have Friday at home to look forward to, but now to get that I have to ruin my evening on Sunday by dreading going in on Monday. My life has been remarkably more miserable since 4 days started.

WFA days would be a brief reprieve when it got particularly bad on occasion, but they ruined those too.

I don't really know the purpose of this post besides to vent.

See title.

Any actual layoff news or is this now the RTO complaint forum?

We all know that RTO was a completely political kissarse move and not a decision based on any facts but I am completely over it!
I'm in the office more days now than before COVID except now I don't even have my own assigned desk. We promote homeownership and affordability but treat employees like we are vagrants having to pack up our entire work life and take it home everyday and then hope we get a desk tomorrow. One that isn't covered in food crumbs from the person yesterday because they aren't cleaning these desks and the desk wipes are out more often than not!
Now that Trump had destroyed gas prices, between the cost of tolls, gas prices rising, the constant fear of layoffs, and hours in traffic, I'm being pushed way past my limit. I'm naturally a high performer but that's about to change. Being asked to do more work with less resources, all while being forced to come into an office just to sit on Teams Meetings all day is the d-mbest thing Pulte has done to date.
And, unfortunately, it's an employers market, so he can get away with it. #burnout #FDT