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Anything Positive?

Is there anything positive at all for US employees at this company outside of having a job? I know the boot lickers will all say be thankful you have a job and accept gratefully every crumb they throw to us, but there is literally nothing to me to make me want to go the extra mile. No assigned desk, 4 times in office a week, most likely a garbage bonus, more layoffs to come. We just keep getting MW'd on over and over again here!


RTO su-ks, and anyone who disagrees is a total clown or has no independent thought or free will

It’s honestly wild watching some of the loudest RTO cheerleaders and management bootlickers act like loyalty is going to save them. These are the same folks who defend every decision no matter how destructive, as if leadership is going to knight them for “service.”

Here’s the reality they don’t want to hear:

The company doesn’t love you back.
Being the loudest “yes” person has never saved anyone from a layoff here. If anything, history shows the opposite: the people who blindly go along with everything are usually the first considered “nonessential” because they bring nothing unique to the table.

And let’s be honest… a lot of the hardcore bootlickers aren’t exactly the strongest performers. They survive by attaching themselves to leadership and hoping that being overly obedient somehow equals value.

Spoiler: It doesn’t.

While they’re out here glazing every leadership move like it’s divine strategy, the rest of us have actual skills and can see the writing on the wall.

Bootlicking isn’t job security.
Competence is.
Flexibility is.
Retaining real talent is.

And none of that is reflected in the current path this company is on.

So maybe instead of worshipping the people who would cut them in a heartbeat, they should start advocating for the changes that would actually help everyone… including themselves.


People working in the Ford Train Station office in Detroit are not going to be happy returning to the office five days a week

Due to the huge losses on the Ford Lightening, Ford needs to cut office facilities expenses. Ford's turning the building heat off for the remainder of the Winter in the Train Station office.


Hybrid was the best.

The hybrid model was amazing. Assigned or unassigned offices the hybrid was still better. There is no logical reason to go more days than 3 per week. I find the change to be very disappointing. My days at home were days to get things done and I didn’t dread getting up before 5 am to go into the office. I could get up at 7 and go right into the office. Back to the dread on Sundays again. Ugggh!


Oh well, back into the office

Can’t wait to be worked to the bone some more, especially since my team is barely holding together under an incompetent manager and roles that were cut and never backfilled. More overtime, exhaustion, and stress, only to be rewarded by getting laid off yourself. And yet, here I am still hoping to hold on to this job.


Relo, RTO, and all other tactics are here to push us out

Preferably for free. They’ll keep setting conditions and requirements harder to meet, so we either quit or give them grounds to fire us. Make your decisions accordingly. I wouldn’t relocate for a job these days under any circumstances. I want to keep my job, and I need it, especially now when the job market is horrendous and the future is very volatile. But the cost of relocating, both material and social, can’t be justified for a job that doesn’t pay all that much and that you could lose the day after you move.


Stankey Home Alone Show

Did everyone see the email John Stankey sent us this Thursday morning? There is a video link of him showcasing AT&T's accomplishments this year and imitating Home Alone at the same time.

How on earth does the CEO of a major Fortune 50 company have time to film and act for this stuff while RTO-ing to an office 5 days a week.


Is Schwab actually checking attendance? Will they ever?

Started at Schwab a while ago.

I have noticed that less than 50% of the people show up on a given day where I work. Many clock in at 9:30 or later, and are gone by 3:00, plus take a looong lunch break.

I am puzzled. Will the 4 day RTO really matter? Most people are not even showing up 3 days a week now, and nothing seems to happen


How is the success of Return to Office being measured?

I go in to the office three days a week, I have a short commute and I don’t mind because the gym and stores are on the way so I just get errands done I’d do otherwise. However the office remains unchanged from my remote setup. I collaborate with my team in different time zones including India and customers scattered across various time zones . I’m an Eastern Time employee located in a hub location, my office is mostly deserted every day. People are coming in late and leaving early. Collaboration here is minimal; people are either too busy or stuck in their own silos, making it difficult for collaboration and I don’t think my Director would even want me to just start collaborating with other departments just to do it. We are already busy enough. I find it better to just collaborate with AI, which can be done from home.

But how can we measure success? I recall hearing about company savings when employees worked from home. Shedding costly Realestate. Do we have a measure for the success of the collaboration? In these though times for VZ, how much are we truly saving by having staff onsite? After all, we want to cut CapEx, right? I feel the leaner, scrappier, thing to do would just be to better monitor remote employees to save $.But maybe someone will show me the numbers proving how RTO helps the new strategy.


Let's look at Testing teams next!!

AT&T needs to look at the various test teams. They seem to have the testing being done by contractors, but the employees, since RTO, are now located time zones away and unable to manage them. The testing should be collocated with the engineering teams and be accomplished with our employees, instead of wasting money on contractors that don’t have any skin in the game and couldn’t care less what happens with AT&T. With the current moves that are happening they should move employees from the FirstNet, IoT, and development teams to Redmond, where the majority of testing is being done.


RTO and staying in for full shift

Anyone has to stay in the office when they come in for their full shift? Our leadership is pushing managers to make sure their staffs stay in the office for their full 8 hours of shift, especially in JAB. Those in JAB who's managers are in KC are also to video call their managers in non-JAB location every morning to confirm they are in fact in the office from start of their shift as well.


RTO being counterproductive

Hadn't thought much about RTO in last few weeks. I didn't get hit and neither did most who I work with directly. We're all pretty spread out, so not near one of the offices where RTO has happened so far. But sat through a client call this morning where the person leading the call was in office. It was horrible. That person is trying to have an important discussion with the client and we all hear people in the background the entire time. They weren't particularly loud or whatever. Sounded like they were also on a work related call based on the stuff you could clearly hear them talking about.

Poor colleague knew it too, clearly. They tried to use mute to mitigate the issue, but that only led to them being muted when they were trying to talk and not muted when they seemed to think they were. And for what? I know this colleague is not interacting with anyone at the office site that is involved at all with any of our work.

So stupid.


So who else isn't getting a bonus this year?

Got a "first and final" warning about Connect Week attendance today, specifically time spent in office rather than badging in and out. And no bonus for me this year as a result. Pretty floored although I guess it's better than being fired with no warning? Am I the only one?


Dan's right

He correctly identified many of our weaknesses. That's half the battle--fixing all that won't be so easy.
And he did show that he has some common sense in getting rid of that ridiculous "hub or no promotion" policy. I'd say that bodes well for WFH going forward (perhaps that's wishful thinking).


Quiet Layoffs

Those in management circles what are you hearing about the quiet layoffs going on? Management seems intent on making things so bad for employees with the wirthless 4 days in office, benefits cuts and sheer arrogance from leaders. This American company doesn't care about America anymore. Can we outsource our CEO?


Trying to understand the whole RTO thing

If it’s not in set stone writing by HR … how can they really even enforce this?

Also do we know yet how managers will be getting reports of employees coming into the office?

Is it by badge scans? By seeing if device is connected to building WiFi?


12/3 Tech Fireside RTO announcement.

Question was posed at this quarters fireside chat where Demchak essentially "hinted" that 5 day return to office will be required following a flowery rant about how while WFH "benefits employees" it "harms the company" and that he is trying to imagine a world where "he is asking you to do your job".

Good luck everyone in Pittsburgh, I would not plan on a cost of living adjustment or a commute benefit coming down the pipeline while Ol' Bill claims his 2026 stock award of the tens of millions.