#career

Hi everyone, I’ve seen some recent roles open for the spend management team in APJ. But having looked at previous comments and the merger with Concur it doesn’t seem like the best place to be. Thoughts? Want to make sure I make the right jump

Am I better off applying externally?

Only been a couple of weeks and I am already on my 2nd and 3rd rounds with two remote companies offering higher pay and minimal travel. Anyone else planning their exit after bonuses?

Im considering a job in the business development roll.

I remember when I just started working, I was so full of energy and ambition, with all these plans and hopes for my career. I got disillusioned within two years and now I feel sick to my stomach when I think that this is something I'm stuck with for nearly my whole life.

In the times where nothing is what it seems is everyone getting the career assistant? It just seems an odd time to get it.
Does everyone get it?

Don't be naive and rely on this company. Use the training BofA offers to make yourself valuable to other employers. When you're in demand, a layoff notice isn't a crisis, it's an opportunity.

I escaped recently and everything - and I mean everything - is better. Not every company micromanages its employees or has a toxic environment. It might not be easy to get a job these days but if you keep trying, it's 100% worth it in the end. I'm a new man.

I have been at T for more than dog years and as I venture into job market, I am seeing hiring managers not having a clue who they want, yet interview me and send instant rejections after the first rounds. I am unsure if these are H1B postings, my tenure at T negatively affecting or my credentials. I am a bit flabbergasted on what to improve on if I can’t even make the first round. How did you overcome this?

If you are salary or overhead, you are at a great risk in 2026 for a layoff. If you do not actually make product you need to be looking for something else.

Our engineers have limited career spans. We do not design anything of interest or significance. Not like we work for Boeing, NASA, Lockheed, and a company where engineers do really interesting and high-tech work. We design electric drills. Boring...

Take my advice and have your resume ready. Get to know people that work at real companies. Be prepared do deal with a layoff.

As a former U.S. Bank employee with close to 30 years of experience and experienced unemployment.

Recognize

• You are owed nothing other than your last paycheck.
• Benefits are better than most other places.
• Your colleagues are friendly with you but are not your friends.
• Anyone including you can easily be replaced.
• The job market is tough even with high demand skills.
• Leadership acts on behalf of the shareholders. You should too.
• Age discrimination is real.
• RTO is not about you.
• Business has nothing to do with morality.

You should:

• Appreciate your paycheck
• Not complain…not to anyone.
• Learn and leverage AI.
• Use all available resources at U.S. bank and anywhere else to improve.
• Work hard and do your best while you’re employed.
• Side hustle or develop passive income streams.
• Stop being entitled.
• Not share your personal baggage or health issues.
• Not compare yourself to anyone.
• Know your worth and find a place that recognizes it.

I am not posting to say what is right or wrong l. All I can say is that it is better to su-k it up and collect a paycheck than having your pride on the unemployment line.

Looking back, did your life and career turn out the way you expected by 2016?

Why would the first sentence of your LinkedIn about section be a brag about coming “from a family that has nearly a century of combined service at ExxonMobil” Since when does what your dad or grandpa did at ExxonMobil matter for your own contribution?

Hi, I've been reading about all the disappointments here re long-awaited pay raises for a while. It's clear that management is just taking us for a ride and there will never be any meaningful raise anytime soon.

How about instead of us all whining about the inevitable, we post available jobs based on what we hear from friends & family to help out those who are stuck in DXC? You could be in IT but hear about an accounting job available or delivery for example, just donate some info here. There is linkedin, Indeed, etc but sometimes inside info is more timely.

What do you say?

I’ve agreed to go out for an interview with a competitor. Never thought it would be me looking for roles outside of XOM. I’ve enjoyed my career for the most part, and have generally been ranked well in my 10 years. Past couple of years I got 10%+ raises, but I feel like that’s just a fluke and worse times are around the corner.

It’s sometimes hard to picture leaving when I think of the long term pension and the comfortable career I have. Am I an id--t or is this the moment to leap into the unknown?

My early 50s don't have much of a chance to start up again somewhere else. Time to stock market casino time and roll the dice with what I have built up. Do or die time.

If you don't get promotions or raises after 2-3 years, just leave. The traditional career ladder is pretty much dead, and the best way to get a raise or promotion is through job hopping.

Management keeps saying how they cannot get any Americans to work in the Permian but then those who want to work in then Permian are told their career is limited and ranked poorly for not being mobile. WTF?

Seeking guidance from folks who quit and moved on to other opportunities. I assume you must have done some financial due diligence on your monthly expenses, found something that meets or tops it. However what other housekeeping activities did you do, in order to not look back at T or scavenging for info from T’s internal websites.

Telecom used to be the kind of industry where you could build a career and retire from it, especially for engineers in RF, Systems and Networking. When many of us started out years ago, we accepted that trade-off: other fields might pay more, but telecom offered stability as long as you did your job well and stayed sharp. That sense of security is gone now. With the field clearly in decline, there’s really no reason for engineers to stay, or to encourage the next generation to work hard just to become one.

• Nurse
• Electrician
• Plumber
• HVAC technician
• Automotive technician
• Carpenter
• Welder
• Pipefitter
• Millwright
• Firefighter
• Police officer
• Paramedic
• Physical therapist
• Occupational therapist
• Speech therapist

How many people got an email this week about the restructuring of the titling system…. And how many were a demotion? My guess is all of them.

I was hired on and the future was bright.
High salary, good options, good bonus. Lighter work load but very interesting work.
That became the status quo for the first 2.5 years.
Then onto a project that had legs but should have been completed in half the time.
The excuse in length was, don't #$%@ up the brand. Valid but the program still took entirely too long.
All the time the better than avg salary/options/bonus arrived.

The next 4 years flew by but the work was not mentally stimulating. In the back of my head I knew I should leave to stay sharp but those golden handcuffs kept me.

The last 2.5 years have been terrible, still a great pay package but at this point in a career there needs to be more. There is not.

No bright future for the company, no groundbreaking tech to boost a new footwear line.

Just backstabbing and cliche high school atmosphere which does not fly in the FAANG corporations in which i have previously worked for.

Its a shame as I loved Nike in those early years and would have bent over backwards to forward the corporate agenda.

I'll stay but no longer have that fire.
Too many VPs to count and absolutely no clue what some do. How a corporation can justify the cost of VPs that barely contribute but a slide deck now and then. Slide decks do not keep the lights on.

Nike is down, Portland downtown is down, that 2016 vibe is long gone.

I am just planning to milk the Nike te-t until my day arrives. It eventually will.

People will say then just leave. Not a chance in this Portland job market. My family would take a hit and that is not happening.

Here's one guy's take on this move vs. don't move.

ACCEPT:

If you are a L2 or L3 with little or no experience outside of AT&T. As in, you joined out of high school, military service, incomplete college, or an online degree
If you are in a role/job title in which you do not meet the minimum qualifications. As in, AT&T calls you a PM but you have never actually managed a project or if they call you an engineer but lack the qualifications to work on a L1 NOC.
If your role recommends an advanced degree but you never completed the undergrad.
If your 'industry experience' means that you are familiar with most of AT&T's products.
If you feel that your job at AT&T challenges your mental abilities.
Or, the inverse - If you feel that AT&T is a cake job and you feel like you get paid for doing nothing.
If you accidentally/purposefully took credit for work or ideas that weren't actually yours.
Finally, if you believe that losing your job at AT&T would make you unemployable at the salary that AT&T has shackled you with.
If you answer yes to any of those, you should consider relo. You are the kind of person AT&T wants.

REJECT:

If you have at least 1 prior position working in your chosen field with 3+ years of experience prior to AT&T.
If your supervisor has ever disparaged formal education or prior experience.
If you do not feel challenged by your role and consider that to be a 'bad thing'.
If the idea of fighting for office space reminds you of being back in kindergarten.
If you're tired of having to explain technology basics to your coworkers and managers.
If you feel that AT&T puts dividend checks before employees or customers.
If you're tired of hearing the story about that time your id--t director almost played a significant role in that billion dollar startup.
If you're tired of inept leaders who frequently remind you that Bill Gates, Michael Dell, and Steve Jobs didn't have college degrees all while they rely on chatgpt to make up for their 8th grade writing skills.
If you are competent, confident, and employable.
If you answer Yes to most of these, you should hit the REJECT button. Take the package, brush up on soft skills. Practice interviews without using "AT&T" in every answer. Don't talk to your leadership any more than you have to. You aren't under any obligation to train your replacement. "I support my team and my customers" is a perfectly reasonable answer. If your director or VP can't explain what you're working on, tough luck, buddy. Guess that's another thing you don't have in common with Dell or Zuck.

Just remember, if you are willing to let your employer dictate your very life, you are EXACTLY the person THEY are looking for. Make no mistake, you aren't valuable to them. Just the opposite, you are a peg to fill a hole. You are table stakes. And yes, you can be L3, L4, or higher and still be table stakes. Need I remind you of our engineering SVPs who clearly weren't technical but they fit a particular hole for a period of time.

I've made my decision. I hope this helps you make yours.

What would you tell your excited and full-of-hope self?

Laid off 6 months ago and so far all I’ve heard through my applications and recruiters is that their experience with former SS&C employees have not been good.

Not my fault that 3/4 of the company are subpar offshore & H1B employees that fail to practice even the most basic software standards that anyone would learn from a freshman level undergraduate course.

Worse for me considering this has been my only experience since graduating. Worse for SS&C considering me with no other experience other than a bachelors degree has more knowledge than supposed “senior” engineers.

Fun fact, if you’re a senior engineer than maybe you should know your database issue that your team has been working on for 4 months is because you guys somehow decided to put whitespaces in the column names which we’ve been trying to tell you is a horrible practice

What does everyone think of this ridiculous week of career expo training? My only goal at this point is to not lose my job - forget about all of this BS!

Recently things have been looking up for me. I had a bad run at Oracle. Was sabotaged along the way and eventually left when others were getting credit for the work I did. It's a bad place to work.

After leaving I had time to think about what had happened at the company. I posted several things on this site thinking that I might be able to warn some people who were still there. Perhaps some of that got through, perhaps not. It's difficult to tell what the result of that was, except for the harassment that ensued from trying to warn others.

But, I find that that harassment has a silver lining to it. I have learned a great deal about what was done to me and also about the people who were involved in it all. Over the years I have learned more about others who are associates of those people.

I have also learned a great deal about how they manipulate people, both at the company and elsewhere.

And in the past few years, after leaving the company, I have found that there are others, probably not in their network, who are using the same set of skills as they were. It has become very easy for me to pick these people out, as they all look for the same things and all function in the same way. Trivial really, once you know what they do and what to look for.

I have done some studying of my own, lots of DVDs, etc on the subject are available. I find it very interesting, although, I probably would not have pursued it without the steady stream of harassment that has come my way.

Recently, I have created a list of others that I have found with similar skills. Seems like everyone, really. It's really an epidemic although most people are unaware of it.

I have decided to pursue my list.

I am hoping that as I produce information on each one in turn, I will be able to share that with authorities and hopefully gain the trust of authorities with my skill in exposing those who manipulate people in this way.

I think it can be done, and really, these people have left me no other alternative.

I start this week and am really looking forward to it. No money involved, but there is knowing that I am helping others and that is very important to me. Maybe a couple of books might come out of it? Who knows?

Good luck to everyone.

Look, I'm over fifty and I've seen the cycles here. You bust your gut for years, hit your targets, and then watch rounds of layoffs target the highest pay brackets anyway. It really makes you question why you should pour extra energy into a place that seems to value your cost over your contribution. Frankly, most of us at this stage are protecting our energy and just meeting expectations while we plan. It’s hard to stay motivated with that hanging over you.

After being here a few years myself, I'm curious about the perspective of people who joined more recently. Do you view Chevron as a company where you can genuinely build a lasting career? I think the expectations are just different now than they used to be.

I've decided to accept another offer, even though the pay is a bit less for now (10%). Staying here just waiting for a potential severance package is costing me my peace of mind. I need to work somewhere with better structure and respect. My self-respect is worth more than a future payout.

Do you enjoy your actual role and what you do for the bank

Get that resume updated for anything that's coming up sooner than expected..

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I got offered a job in a small startup. Less than 30 employees. They're doing great right now, and the offer is really good, but I'm so worried. While job security here is an issue, with startups the whole company can go under in a heartbeat. I have no idea what to do.

You stayed at dell to long and you working for a company like Dell never turns in anyone’s favor unlike if you worked for a company like tootsie roll who takes care of there people like family

To those who choose to stay, good luck for the next 5 years until this sh&! Show starts all over again.