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https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1vN1ICdB
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Title: Predictions for 2025?
Post Text: What's your prediction for 2025? The more unlikely, the more cred if it comes true. Go.

December 3 2025 by Anonymous | 218872 views | 33 reactions (+33/-0) | 41 replies (last 13 days ago) | Reply
Post ID: @OP+1vN1ICdB

## Replies

1. "tough luck"
   13 days ago by Anonymous | Post ID: @137c+1vN1ICdB

2. "June 1. Time for a mid-year review of the predictions. Many predictions have potential, but 'Mandatory all day BS indoctrination sessions on the New Frontier propaganda.' seems to be the most accurate, though technically, so far, it was a half day. Also, I believe the $1 billion in buybacks with little for the employees prediction is true. It might even be $3 billion in buybacks."
   June 1 by Anonymous | Post ID: @shv+1vN1ICdB

3. "MetLife becomes a subsidiary of Prudential."
   March 26 by Anonymous | Post ID: @g6z+1vN1ICdB

4. "All US Tech positions will be reduced/eliminated and pushed to India. Your job will no longer be necessary."
   March 26 by Anonymous | Post ID: @g4g+1vN1ICdB

5. "Get rid of pace and the podcasts. This one seems unlikely given links to new podcasts keep appearing on MML."
   March 23 by Anonymous | Post ID: @fqk+1vN1ICdB

6. "@ekg+1vN1ICdB get used to these compensation numbers at MetLife. My LOB exceeded their business plan in 2024 but fell short in 2023. I got the same low BS numbers both years, with no real explanation. My performance ratings for those years are both 'Successful'... Then update your resume and look for better paying jobs."
   March 16 by Anonymous | Post ID: @eq7+1vN1ICdB

7. "@ekg+1vN1ICdB reading is fundamental"
   March 15 by Anonymous | Post ID: @em7+1vN1ICdB

8. "It might be the lowest of the scores, but if you believe the execs, amazingly the scores go up for nearly every category nearly every year. Riiight. Next time, it's gonna go down."
   March 15 by Anonymous | Post ID: @ekg+1vN1ICdB

9. "@ds4+1vN1ICdB are you new? Compensation is consistently the lowest score on My Voice every single year... Garbage not to be taken seriously."
   March 10 by Anonymous | Post ID: @dx9+1vN1ICdB

10. "I predict that, unless rigged, some My Voice scores will go down in 2025, especially regarding satisfaction with compensation."
    March 9 by Anonymous | Post ID: @ds4+1vN1ICdB

11. "Trump comes down hard on Federal contractors that continue to have DEI and ESG programs. MetLife finally sees the light."
    January 22 by Anonymous | Post ID: @78w+1vN1ICdB

12. "@4aoj+1vN1ICdB you misspelled India."
    January 12 by Anonymous | Post ID: @5ya+1vN1ICdB

13. "The prediction 'MIM gets sold and 95% of employees get terminated' isn't looking good considering that MIM has bought two other companies. I could see maybe, 'MIM gets spun off as a separate company' as a prediction."
    January 12 by Anonymous | Post ID: @5wq+1vN1ICdB

14. "@szgx+1vN1ICdB Seriously? I hadn't heard about that. Is that why the execs sport those insulated vests? Turn the heat on, MetLife."
    December 31 by Anonymous | Post ID: @ssbf+1vN1ICdB

15. "MetLife at 200 Park realizes their electric bill has significantly increased, due to MANY employees needing to use individual space heaters... Met refuses to put the heat on at 200 Park."
    December 31 by "It's an old building" | Post ID: @szgx+1vN1ICdB

16. "I predict extensive re-organizations company wide, and especially in IT. Happy New Year."
    December 31 by Anonymous | Post ID: @suwk+1vN1ICdB

17. "MetLife fined for money laundering... CEO moves to Dubai and refuses to return to U.S."
    December 17 by Anonymous | Post ID: @eiih+1vN1ICdB

18. "Management compiles new cut lists and start writing up targets for Met policies never communicated to employees."
    December 15 by Anonymous | Post ID: @cdfi+1vN1ICdB

19. "CEO authorizes 10% staggered layoffs from his California home."
    December 9 by Anonymous | Post ID: @6vif+1vN1ICdB

20. "MIM gets sold and 95% MIM employees terminated."
    December 8 by Anonymous | Post ID: @6crs+1vN1ICdB

21. "Let's Talk Live becomes less frequent and then stops entirely."
    December 7 by Anonymous | Post ID: @5fdv+1vN1ICdB

22. "@4wld+1vN1ICdB and a dental plan option that isn't MetLife Dental!"
    December 7 by Anonymous | Post ID: @4kgz+1vN1ICdB

23. "I predict that in the 2025 Annual Benefits Enrollment, the number of folks picking United Health Care will drop by at least 75%."
    December 7 by Anonymous | Post ID: @4wld+1vN1ICdB

24. "@4jbk+1vN1ICdB the comments are factual though, so no violations there. Inept AVPs are in fact, inept."
    December 7 by Anonymous | Post ID: @4eof+1vN1ICdB

25. "HR migration to Asia completed."
    December 6 by Anonymous | Post ID: @4aoj+1vN1ICdB

26. "HR identifies the names of all Layoff posters and fires them for code of conduct violations. 'Inept AVP' and 'woke' posters are the first to go..."
    December 6 by Moazzaz&Partners | Post ID: @4jbk+1vN1ICdB

27. "Reduced chances to win a CoPilot license in a lottery because budget is consumed by beefing up protection for executives."
    December 6 by Anonymous | Post ID: @3sft+1vN1ICdB

28. "Mandatory all day BS indoctrination sessions on the New Frontier propaganda. co pilot communications from the very elusive HR and Marketing tokens."
    December 6 by Anonymous | Post ID: @3cpq+1vN1ICdB

29. "Class action lawsuit for age discrimination."
    December 5 by Anonymous | Post ID: @3kwz+1vN1ICdB

30. "Commerical Real Estate investments come home to roost ( on Pappy )."
    December 5 by Anonymous | Post ID: @2mwy+1vN1ICdB

31. "Sell Australia and Japan businesses. Entire legal department given 90 days to move to Jaipur or lose their jobs..."
    December 5 by Anonymous | Post ID: @2jdb+1vN1ICdB

32. "6th Floor at 200 Park to also be subleased so the scared C Suite can all WFH safe and sound in their gated mansions. P.S. The 200 Park office 'refresh' is such a joke."
    December 5 by Anonymous | Post ID: @2xgy+1vN1ICdB

33. "Stock market tear locks in guarantees. A subsequent stock market drop hurts 'the firm.'"
    December 4 by Anonymous | Post ID: @2gzw+1vN1ICdB

34. "At least $1B in stock buybacks while telling us there's no money for worthwhile raises."
    December 4 by Anonymous | Post ID: @2hau+1vN1ICdB

35. "EMEA business or parts of it get put up for sale."
    December 4 by Anonymous | Post ID: @1kdu+1vN1ICdB

36. "Get rid of pace and the podcasts"
    December 4 by Anonymous | Post ID: @1hwc+1vN1ICdB

37. "To keep IT management busy, replace TCS with another offshore vendor"
    December 3 by Anonymous | Post ID: @1rmy+1vN1ICdB

38. "CEO fires CEO of the Foundation."
    December 3 by Anonymous | Post ID: @1anz+1vN1ICdB

39. "CEO announces his, CFO, entire top group is retiring. Board brings in new CEO from India. HQ moves to Mumbai."
    December 3 by Anonymous | Post ID: @1kld+1vN1ICdB

40. "Inept AVPs here to stay! Our feedback continues to be ignored. More unqualified DEI hires. Cheap raises... 5% stealth layoff in US IT."
    December 3 by Anonymous | Post ID: @hcy+1vN1ICdB

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# Suddenness and Secrecy of Layoffs
Posters emphasized how the June 24, 2025 layoffs were quiet, poorly communicated, and unsettling for employees left behind.

• "ADP has started heavy layoffs on June 24, 2025. They have been quiet about this to the point where internal sellers who will be impacted are unaware." ( Anonymous, Jun 26, 2025 )
• "Why is it always such a quiet layoff? There’s never an official email or anything. I’m still on edge because I don’t know if it’s over." ( Anonymous, Jun 27, 2025 )
• "Anyone know if further layoffs are coming?" ( Anonymous, Jun 26, 2025 )
• "Lost 10 coworkers on our product on the 24th. Second year in a row that there's a big chop." ( Anonymous, Jun 26, 2025 )
• "It seems something cooking for next week or month, I heard from multiple folks." ( Ano, Jul 27, 2025 )
• "How are you so sure it was a 'very very small reduction'? Did they email you a running tally of all layoffs company wide?" ( Anonymous, Jun 27, 2025 )
• "Continuously firing levels below VP, independent contributors, etc. to pinch pennies isn’t going to last forever." ( Anonymous, Jun 26, 2025 )

# Offshore Outsourcing and Job Cuts
Many pointed to outsourcing and offshoring as a driving force behind layoffs, often linking it to declining quality and cost-cutting.

• "Hard working people losing their jobs to less qualified, cheaper labor abroad." ( Anonymous, Jul 4, 2025 )
• "Yes, they are sending as much offshore as possible." ( Anonymous, Jun 27, 2025 )
• "Curious to know if they are outsourcing the roles, hiring more offshore folks?" ( Anonymous, Jun 26, 2025 )
• "When I was at ADP, these offshore associates could do no wrong in ADP Management's eyes... I supervised many of those offshore associates and estimate that they failed to deliver quality work about 80 to 90 percent of the time." ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "Who else who have dealt with offshore associates are familiar with 'cab delays'? I know they accounted for HOURS a week- we were lucky if we got a 30 hour work week out of them." ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "Our American associates were expected to work 50, 60, 70 hours a week or more. Of course, those overtime hours were uncompensated." ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "Off shore folks that actually are enthusiastically putting in a 40 hour work week in the office. Winning!" ( Anonymous, Jun 30, 2025 )

# Employee Frustration and Difficulty of Leaving
Many described being stuck at ADP, unable to easily find new work or fearful of more cuts.

• "Difficult to leave when it's hard to get another job, even for a quality employee." ( Anonymous, Jul 25, 2025 )
• "If you have no skills beyond what ADP has taught you, where are you supposed to go?" ( Anonymous, Jun 29, 2025 )
• "Wow! I didn't know that ADP over bloated their staffing. From my experience, we were constantly understaffed and under pressure all the time." ( Anonymous, Jun 30, 2025 )
• "Knowledge is indeed power. During my tenure at ADP, I noticed that management liked to keep everyone scared, thinking that scared employees are productive employees." ( Anonymous, Jun 27, 2025 )
• "Not comical but sad, most everyone bashes ADP yet doesn’t leave. Isn’t that odd?" ( Anonymous, Jul 25, 2025 )
• "If employees were satisfied and relaxed then they would not be under any pressure to perform. So harum scarum stuff was always going on, from rumors about layoffs, office moves, and other disruptive situations." ( Anonymous, Jun 27, 2025 )

# Culture of Fear and Distrust
Some noted a toxic environment where management kept employees insecure to push performance.

• "Keep those of you still standing d-mb and scared. Which is of course such last century thinking. Maria is terrible... She's just doing this as insurance policy on her bonus." ( goskiprope, Jun 27, 2025 )
• "Even printouts that were 'accidentally' left on the printer which caused consternation to people that would find them... Disgusting but part of ADP life." ( Anonymous, Jun 27, 2025 )
• "ADP loved to save money on labor costs by overworking their employees." ( Anonymous, Jun 30, 2025 )

# Divisive Attitudes Toward Laid-Off Workers
Posters were divided between sympathy for workers and mockery, with insults and dismissals surfacing often.

• "Qualified competent people will always find employment. The opposite is also true." ( Anonymous, Jul 25, 2025 )
• "Competent people can find work anywhere. Wow, just wow." ( Anonymous, Jul 23, 2025 )
• "They are losers when they can't perform. Just the facts." ( Anonymous, Jul 3, 2025 )
• "Lol! Love the 'competition abroad'! The only way they can compete is by receiving substandard wages. In every other way they are losers." ( Anonymous, Jul 3, 2025 )
• "Seems you’re jealous of the competition abroad. Us VERPS accepted you clowns, why can’t you accept them?" ( Anonymous, Jul 3, 2025 )

# Accusations of Shilling and Defensiveness
Several users accused others of being ADP defenders or “shills,” especially when layoffs were minimized or praised.

• "The only ridicule and insults that I see are from people that don't want anything bad said about ADP. Ridicule and insults = ADP shills." ( Anonymous, Jul 4, 2025 )
• "You are an ADP shill who won't tolerate anything bad said about this company. Well, a lot of us have stories to tell of our experiences and we can't be stopped by insults and ridicule." ( Anonymous, Jul 4, 2025 )
• "People will post anything they want about ADP here. No one here can stop them or do anything about that except complain." ( Anonymous, Jul 4, 2025 )
• "Please tell folks to only communicate layoffs and refrain from the company bashing. Warm regards." ( Anonymous, Jul 4, 2025 )

# Leadership and Executive Compensation
Anger was directed at executives, particularly CEO Maria Black, for receiving millions while employees faced cuts.

• "But it helped make Maria MILLIONS and a pension and a private plane… but congrats- you got early retirement. Cha Ching." ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "Maria’s salary is public in case you’d like to google it." ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "https://bullfincher.io/companies/automatic-data-processing/ceo-salary" ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "Maria is terrible... She's just doing this as insurance policy on her bonus." ( goskiprope, Jun 27, 2025 )

# Personal Experiences and Reflections
Some shared their history at ADP, including voluntary retirement or long-term frustrations.

• "I VERPed in 2018 ( wow, has it been that long? )... The biggest reason... ADP did massive layoffs during the last week of June, during which my birthday fell. Happy friggin' birthday. Now we're gonna throw a percentage of your friends and colleagues into the dumpster. Maybe you. Good riddance, ADP." ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "It’s great you were able to take early retirement- honestly, congratulations... But the people who helped you are losing their jobs and being forced to train the cheaper labor abroad." ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "Writing as VERP who was planning on leaving that year anyways due to financial ability I feel that Maria and Carlos before her is doing a WONDERFUL job. Stock over $300. Too many help-rejecting complainers on here. Sincerely, Cha-Ching." ( Anonymous, Jun 28, 2025 )

# Uncommon Opinions and Perspectives
A minority defended ADP or minimized the layoffs, often in sharp contrast to the majority sentiment.

• "Pretty light on the layoffs. Me thinks a LOT of folks here owe ADP an apology." ( Anonymous, Jul 14, 2025 )
• "Excellent news! Thanks for sharing. Have a great day!" ( Anonymous, Jul 2, 2025 )
• "ADP is an awesome company to work for! Best regards." ( Anonymous, Jul 27, 2025 )
• "Not comical but sad, most everyone bashes ADP yet doesn’t leave. Isn’t that odd?" ( Anonymous, Jul 25, 2025 )

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Layoffs in Arizona Office

# Suddenness and Lack of Warning
Employees consistently described being blindsided without advance notice. Many emphasized the cold, impersonal manner of execution.

• "After 11 years working for Kemper I was fired via a phone call from HR. No warning, nothing. Just they are reducing the work force." ( Anonymous, Nov 4, 2022 )
• "I was at Kemper/Infinity for 15 years. I was laid off while on PTO. The place is a joke, good riddance." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "800 people let go today. Zero compassion from leadership. Heard it was a pre recorded message shown to those affected." ( Anonymous, Oct 26, 2022 )
• "Lost great people in Birmingham Total Loss today." ( Anonymous, Oct 26, 2022 )
• "Security was escorting out 2 to 3 employees yesterday at the Cerritos office." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "The Chatsworth office was also affected, about 4 adjusters without warning. Did anyone get offered a severance package?" ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "SIU department also hit. Mike Hull and other managers and representatives. Shocking as our department was busy. Brought into a teams meeting with a generated message that we were laid off." ( Anonymous, Oct 26, 2022 )

# Pre-Recorded Announcements and Gaslighting
A recurring theme was the impersonal, robotic approach to announcing layoffs. Employees felt the company tried to deny this, further fueling anger.

• "I had the joy of the pre-recorded message today. That was so strange. They sounded like robots with zero compassion." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Fact they are more concerned that ppl are saying it was a pre recorded statement then what they did to the employees speaks volumes. Takes gaslighting to a whole different level." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "The audacity of them to be more concerned that ppl are saying it was a pre recorded message then how they blind sided their employees speaks volumes. Puts gaslighting to a whole new level." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Scared to go to the town Hall tomorrow. Dont want a prerecorded message saying we are fired." ( Oh, Oct 26, 2022 )
• "This company is by far the worse. I lost 3 people on my team. They did a pre-recorded message with no sympathy at all." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )

# WARN Act and Legal Action
Many posts highlighted potential WARN Act violations, encouraging others to seek legal advice and join lawsuits.

• "Fellow Kemper employees, if you were terminated as part of the 10/26/2022 Reduction In Force at Kemper, please contact The Bloom Lawfirm @ 818-914-7397 to join a class action lawsuit for Kempers violation of the Federal WARN Act." ( Former Kemper L&D Member, Nov 23, 2022 )
• "I consulted an attorney and we have a case. Kemper violated the WARN act. Seek legal advise and don’t sign the severance release until you speak to an attorney." ( Anonymous, Nov 14, 2022 )
• "Check it out. Seems all let go in CA may have a case under WARN ACT. Yikes. They must’ve let all of HR go seeing that it seemly wasn’t looked into." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "After reviewing this case and the number of people laid off without warning, this places Kemper in breach of the WARNS ACT. Go gete'm!!! Know your rights." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Go to https://edd.ca.gov/en/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WARN. Help is available if you feel your rights have been violated." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )

# Leadership Criticism and Executive Compensation
A strong theme is anger toward leadership’s behavior and pay levels, contrasted against employee treatment.

• "Poorly handled lay off. And you have Duane Sanders who makes millions. He doesn’t care about anyone but himself." ( Anonymous, Oct 28, 2022 )
• "Joseph Lacher made $8,222,255 in total compensation as Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President at Kemper Corp in 2021." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Duane Sanders made $2,883,135 in total compensation as Executive Vice President and President, Property and Casualty Division at Kemper Corp in 2020." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Melissa Hill, a very talented leader, was making positive change but the good ole boy club has to get rid of the one executive female left. All remaining claims leadership is all MEN now. Are we in 2022 or 1960???" ( Anonymous, Oct 28, 2022 )
• "Duane Sanders in the townhall meeting literally just ended the meeting with 'Halt the Rumors'." ( Insurance, Oct 27, 2022 )

# Reputation and Toxic Work Culture
The layoffs amplified longstanding complaints about Kemper’s reputation, culture, and operations.

• "The reputation at Kemper has been awful for years. Few experience adjusters will even work at that company and Temps ( Contractors ) often decline placement there." ( Anonymous, Oct 28, 2022 )
• "Learning and Development ( L&D ), did their absolute best to train new hires through Kemper's revolving door. On Oct. 26th, all but 6-7 Trainers were laid off; including 4 Instructional Designers." ( Anonymous, Oct 28, 2022 )
• "Sadly, as a prior manager, I can confirm that this is not a place you want to work at if you value your sanity as I was regularly verbally abused by management." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "I used to work for Infinity/Kemper. Thankfully I jumped that ship while I could and work for a better insurance company." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Get out while you can. Nothing out of their mouth can be trusted. Can't wait to see what BS they will spin out I'm the town hall." ( Anonymous, Oct 26, 2022 )

# Severance and Treatment of Employees
Anger was also directed at the meager severance packages and perceived disrespect.

• "My wife was let go. She worked there for 1 year and her severance was 1 week. That is disgusting." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Thankful for the 2 weeks of pay and severance, still mind blowing." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "I don’t know how many were laid off in Dallas, but it was a lot. At least 5 managers in my unit ( including me ) and several adjusters. The meeting didn't come across pre-recorded to me, but after hearing I was being laid off everything became a blur after that." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "People have given 20 plus years to this company and this is how they were treated." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )

# Industry Context and Aftermath
Some users pointed out Kemper’s financial troubles, industry perception, and job opportunities elsewhere.

• "Poorly Managed https://www.reinsurancene.ws/am-best-downgrades-kemper-on-earnings-deterioration/" ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "National General is hiring 250 claims rep, also hiring many field auto reps across the US." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Loya Insurance is hiring in San Antonio, El Paso and McAllen, Texas!! Not remote positions!! Submit your resumes!!!" ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Good roddanc3 I hope they get every legal action against them. And then the separation papers are a joke too." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )

# Uncommon Opinions and Perspectives
Amid the broader consensus, a few remarks stood out for their uniqueness.

• "Please don’t name names when writing, this is an anon forum - personal info is not allowed." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Blackout period, but I need to sell my stocks ASAP! I wonder if the Blackout applies to persons no longer with the company." ( Anonymous, Oct 27, 2022 )
• "Per Linkden MH was actually a Senior Vice President reporting directly into the President. She doesnt seem to have a good track record staying at companies." ( TheReal, Nov 13, 2022 )
• "Senior management in theft and fire were let go." ( Pip, Oct 26, 2022 )

How much longer are we expected to wait in this toxic environment

IN MEXICO ORACLE IS DOING LAYOFFS TO OCI TEAMS

Recent laid off employee here.

Laid off based out of Charlotte. Been here for 14 years. I am non working till October 2025. Haven’t signed the severance yet as my mental health tanked after the news. How much my severance will be? Any other advice on how to deal with severance and other pointers regarding layoffs will be helpful.

Is there anyone who is hoping they get an ISP Monday? I don’t know how much longer I can handle this clown show.

About two weeks after I got the axe, I started receiving emails from temp agencies for my exact job, only at $6/hr less.

I was laid off, and I don’t have regrets. I’d been bracing for this, the anxiety had been building for a while, so in some ways, it feels like a relief. I’m also grateful it gave me the push I needed to start looking elsewhere. I stayed at Oracle too long, became complacent, and lost sight of other possibilities. Staying in one place for too long isn’t great for self-confidence or professional growth, especially with how companies have been operating over the past decade. The job market is tough, but here’s hoping I prove I’m tougher.

Good luck to the rest of you, and don’t let yourself fall under the psychological pressure the corporate environment, and especially layoffs, can create. There are always other options, and other opportunities to prove to yourself that you’re good at what you do.

I don’t work there, but I’ve watched what this place has done to my sister. She’s given them everything—early mornings, late nights, weekends, endless events. And she’s not the only one. So many of you have sacrificed your time, your health, even your families, because you believed in being loyal and dedicated.

But what does this company give back? Not gratitude, not respect, not recognition. Instead, after draining people dry, they toss you out like you were nothing. It’s not a “thank you” for years of service—it’s a cold shove out the door.

We used to joke it was like a cult. Turns out we were right. A cult takes your energy, your devotion, your soul—and when you’re no longer useful, it discards you. That’s exactly what’s happening here.

To everyone getting laid off: you deserved better than this. And no matter what they try to make you believe, the failure is theirs—not yours.

Was informed there would be another huge round of layoffs in mid Sept. Is this in Tech?

The Mercury News reported two WARN act filings by Oracle - disclosed on August 13, filed again on August 14.

"Oracle America is cutting 101 positions in Santa Clara, the company revealed in a WARN notice filed with the EDD on Aug. 14. These staffing reductions come on the heels of a disclosure by Oracle on Aug. 13 that it had decided to cut 188 jobs, consisting of a loss of 143 positions in Redwood City and 45 in Pleasanton."

Does this mean that the disclosure layoffs (Aug 13) already happened but the filed (Aug 14) layoffs have up to 60 days to execute?

Hi! I worked for Oracle years ago was laid off, seen all of this before. Been there done that.

Oracle does mass culls and purges very regularly, sometimes more frequently or aggressive than others, but it's the way they have always run the business. They also tend to cut aggressively when they do cut.

As for how to deal with it. If you've just been laid off, don't look back. Let go. It's gone. Focus on you and the future and think very broadly about what your skills are. Oracle likely had you fixated on some small things which really narrows your perspective over time. Don't think about going back unless you become desperate for money and just use it as an interim step. Never try to make sense of what they are doing, why they are doing or what just happened to you. You will go crazy.

For the people who are there, unless you're VERY senior, look outside the company. There are a lot of interesting things going on, and certainly better paid.

I was laid off years ago. I didn't want to go. I was "happy" but a better word was complacent bordering on lazy. In reality I was being underpaid, not appreciated and wasn't enjoying it. It's now worked out a LOT better for me, but make no mistake, it was unnerving, uncomfortable and unsettling at the time. I look back and wish I'd left years earlier. Other people had this same advice but I couldn't bring myself to leave.

Oracle treat employees like abused animals because they can. They know there is no shortage. Their business model allows them to do this financially and the law allows them to. The only way not to be exploited is not to play their game.

Good luck. I hope you all make it through this mentally unscathed or traumatised.

What a great day. I received the call this AM. I heard in my managers voice uncertainty about their own future. What a mess, they have a whole heck of a lot of stuff they need to unwind to get themselves off the firing line. For those who did not want to speak up for me that is OK, I forgive you. I do not feel bad for standing up for myself when I did. Nobody slots me into incorrect alignments and gets away with it. At this point, I appreciate the paid 60 days PTO and severance. I am going to use this as an opportunity to reset my mental health and find a better position for the remainder of my career. Feel free to position these changes as (right-sizing all you want). I have watched for years as you've hired your friends and diversity hires. Thank God those days are over for me. I should have never put up with it in the first place, but with COVID and forced RTO the market contracted making a move a little more elusive than I had hoped. Again! Thank you all very much. This is a weight off my shoulders.

Rumor there's been recent layoffs effective immediately....anyone know anything or been impacted?

Entire traffic department getting laid off, and jobs are being sold to Indian company Wipro.

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/oracle-tech-giant-layoffs-headquarters-20819830.php

The tech company announced the cuts on Wednesday in WARN documents, as is generally required in the event of mass layoffs. One lists 45 layoffs at the company’s Pleaston campus; the other lists 143 at its former headquarters in Redwood City.

Software developers — at various levels of seniority — are being hit hard, according to the WARN notices. Within the category, six vice presidents are losing their jobs in Redwood City, plus 25 director- and manager-level employees and more than 60 lower-level developers.

The documents say that workers were notified on or before Wednesday and will officially leave the roles in mid-October. The WARN Act requires employers to give workers 60 days notice before a layoff, but tech companies tend to just end their laid-off workers’ jobs immediately and give them 60 days of pay.

Oracle did not immediately respond to SFGATE’s questions about the reason for the cuts and what severance pay these workers might receive. But Bloomberg reported Wednesday that the company was cutting staff from its massive cloud computing unit, including more than 150 workers in Seattle, so it’s likely that the Bay Area cuts were also from that group.

The company is based in Austin but, according to a 2024 statement from co-founder Larry Ellison, it will be moving its headquarters again, to Nashville. Official filings still say Austin.

Laid off after 22 years, and I can’t sleep. I worry about the immediate future and my job prospects as all the companies that would hire me are going into lean mode. I’m also suffering existentially, thinking about AI and what the job market looks like for anyone a decade from now. What’s everyone else doing to prepare? It feels like savings and emergency funds won’t be enough at some point. For the first time in my life my future is foggy along with everyone else’s. I’m having trouble coping and I keep doomscrolling this forum, and I know it’s not healthy, but I don’t know what else to look at for comfort.

Anybody have the inside scoopetypoop?

Sr. Manager here. I read this board every so often but, please don't get complacent and feel like you are safe right now. Unfortunately, it's not quite done. Last week was the majority but there is another round this coming Monday. I have 5 meetings with HR and my directs that I don't want to be in next week. Good luck .

After my manager finished reading the HR script, he said to me, “Good luck", and I replied, “Good luck to you too". I truly meant it. I know many of you, like me, have wanted to leave this toxic place but haven’t, for various reasons. I sincerely wish the very best for all of you who are still at Cisco.

Just got LR’d yesterday, G10 RTP Collab. The team environment was politically charged and pathetic. Only bootlickers are safe. Not sure how I made this far in the group.

Posting for someone I know who got let go in June but did not receive their PSP last week, which was unexpected since they were still on the payroll post May 31. Was wondering if others experienced this or what the next steps should be?

Does anybody know whats ahead for Dublin?
A lot have gone in the last week but are more cuts ahead in the short to medium term?
Have also heard they are trying to cut the package from 6 weeks to 2 weeks per year in the next round.
Is this legal or can anyone give any feedback from a legal standpoint?

With all the changes taking place at OpenText, when do you think there will be a layoff or exits of non performing sales reps.

Hi everyone - not necessarily a speculative post on what may come post the earnings call however sharing a dose of care to those reading this. LRs for the most part are decisions made on the role - not the individual. So, should you be wishing for an LR and it does happen, then I wish you all the best. Should it happen unexpectedly for you, take some time for self care, rewind and reset - we all deserve it. And, be assured that you will be OK, and perhaps even better than OK (well, from those I have spoken to in the past at least). Let's all support each other everyone. LR may come, it may not but let's all check in each other as the world needs it more than ever.

Just a PSA to all you burnouts (I am one of you) that you can just tell your boss "no." And you can do it a whole bunch before Optum fires you. Working for a company with an accountability problem means your boss is a coward who really doesn't want to confront you on your sh-t. It's also super likely that he or she is a parasite who is entirely dependent on your work for their survival. Most of them need you more than you need them. And, most are holding off on firing people so they have candidates to sacrifice for the next month's RIF. You want some of that sweet severance? Tell your boss "No" for a few months. I promise you'll be less burnt out and you'll be at the top of that RIF list.

I love you all. Break the chains

How are folks doing from the Feb 2024 layoff? Anyone still watching sometimes this board?

Just IT today? Sounds like a lot of people are being laid off. Wishing the best to everyone affected.

Rumor is there are some layoffs/RIFs happening in the CHQ segment. Anyone hear anything?

Good luck to everyone.

Any more intel on coming RIFs or numbers that have accepted ERP?

I am super excited for Wellness week , it's best time for rest and recovery, but hardly breathing coz Lay-offs around the corner for EMEA Tech
What do you suggest to east the anxiety?
Can the peers share any insights, Positive/Negative will do, just don't be insensitive.
EMEA being on delayed timeline just driving me crazy, I just want this to over af

San Francisco and Sunnyvale, California

• Cruise, the autonomous vehicle company owned by GM, has laid off another 101 employees as it pulls back from robotaxi development. The affected workers span three Bay Area locations, including the headquarters. These layoffs follow earlier cuts of nearly 1,000 positions and come after a pedestrian incident and subsequent permit suspension. GM is shifting focus away from public robotaxi services to internal testing and integration of Cruise technologies with its broader driver-assistance systems.

• GM is cutting 750 jobs at its Oshawa Assembly Plant due to U.S. tariffs, moving from three shifts to two starting this fall.
• The plant currently employs around 3,000 people, and the change could ripple across the supply chain, affecting another 1,500 workers.
• Unifor union president Lana Payne condemned the decision, calling it reckless and accusing GM of trying to gain favor with Donald Trump.
• GM confirmed 700 workers will be impacted, but avoided using the term "layoffs," saying it will support affected employees through the transition.
• The cuts are linked to a 25% tariff imposed by President Trump on all vehicle imports to the U.S.
• GM says the move is based on forecasted demand & trade conditions, and the plant will refocus on building trucks for Canadian customers.
• The Oshawa facility builds Chevrolet Silverado trucks, which are also produced in the U.S. & Mexico.
• Payne said GM is required to provide six months' notice and that the union will fight the decision during that period.
• Prime Minister Mark Carney expressed sympathy & warned of consequences for companies not acting as partners in protecting Canadian jobs.
• Payne called GM’s timing premature, given that Carney & Trump are scheduled to meet soon for trade talks.
• Unifor urged the government to reconsider GM’s tariff-exempt status under Canada's remission framework.
• Ontario Premier Doug Ford called the news “extremely tough” but said GM reaffirmed its long-term commitment to the Oshawa plant.
• The Windsor Stellantis plant is also shutting down temporarily, though no connection to tariffs was made.
• A recent update clarified that CUSMA-compliant auto parts are exempt from the 25% tariff, but Payne says this does nothing to help Canadian assembly plants.
• The union believes GM will reduce exports to the U.S. & shift Oshawa’s focus to the Canadian market, which may not match American demand levels.

SS is cleaning house in EMEA and the Americas! This is long overdue. Half of that organization is completely worthless!