#experience

Fellow employees, how are you all getting along in the new org? How is the work load? My personal experience is pure he-l to be honest. Triple workload and chaos from management. This may be just my own experience, so I’m hoping to get an idea of what you all are experiencing.

They trade experience for cheap labor and then they're surprised the results aren't the same.

I watched Fiserv push out a whole group of older folks last year, because they were too costly. They wanted young creative types instead, so they brought in new people. Guess what? The company still runs exactly the same way. Same bad processes, same broken systems, same stupid decisions. They changed the employees but kept everything else. Now we just have less experience and the same mess.

Restructuring solves nothing, breaks plenty. Vacancies never get filled, teams just get more stretched and bitter.

And they always cut the wrong people. Not that the rest of us are useless. We're not. But without fail, they boot the one person who actually mattered - the skilled one, the experienced one, the glue who kept the team from falling apart. Every single time.

It boggles the mind, really. Especially when you see the same pattern repeating itself for so many years.

Another day on a bridge call, where you have twice as many managers than what is needed. And they're all trying to outdue the others when it comes to being overly obnoxious and throwing their weight around.

The best way to cool their heels is to ask a question in regard to something a manager who has real experience managing technical resources would have done, knowing they didn't do it or have a clue. I did that today and the bridge went silent for about 15 seconds before the redirection started.

I miss the day of having managers that had real world experience in the areas that they managed. Which is not the case at Gainwell.

I resigned earlier this year. Since then, two full pay cycles have elapsed but I still haven't received my unused vacation payout. Is this normal? Emailed payroll twice already and got no response. Please share your experience if you have any. Thanks.

Laid off a year ago after being there 15 years (EMC brought into Dell). I had a larger quota (20-30 million a half but I will admit I was semi over paid compared to market averages)...but I was lucky and was immediately employed by a competitor a week after posting up my looking for work banner on LinkedIN.

I wasn't replaced by Dell for a while and they finally got headcount or whatever to replace me and they did it with a guy fresh out of college. Turns out they couldn't get meetings or sell anything.

Now here is where it gets funny. Encouraged by his lesdership, the new kid has the nerve to reach out to me and ask me if I can introduce him to my old customers (bear in mind i'm his direct competitor now and he knows this). Absolutely laughable.

That is how they are running things now, I suppose.

I’m thinking that I’m about to be laid off and I’m hearing there are zero jobs out there. Anyone have any ideas of ppl who may be hiring? My best friend just got an mba w 5 years of experience and cannot get an interview anywhere.

Share your info, let’s review

CL, rating, hike, salary, experience with the company

How was your experience been?

my first day for Optum will be on the New year, but I can't find anything online about other people's experience lol. It's a fully remote job taking calls as a biomedical support engineer for cath labs. Wonder if anyone here is currently/ used to do that

What is up with the external hires with 0 experience? It's ridiculous that workers have to hand hold the management!!!!

When you are layed off, your only way to attempt to get questions answered or request actions is via email to Alumni@xerox.com. My experience with that has been horrible. Anyone have similar or different experiences?

If you are 45+ old then they start finding ways to lay you off. Ageism is playing huge role in job market right now with recruiters asking questions like which year did you finish your education, indirectly gauging your age and not moving forward. Its depressing. Valuing experience over youth.

Anyone with past experience porting the consession phone number? A pin and acct# would be needed. I know of folks that took vsp that ported. If allowed this go around, any details on getting that done?

That's pretty rich given they've kicked so many of deep experience employees to the curb since Hackett decided you didn't need any automotive experience to design and build vehicles. Fast forward, quality is in the tank and NOW they are seeking experience.
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Cubic is in major trouble. They are laying off as many people as they can to try and save money. All work is going to India which is proving to cause even bigger issues due to the lack of experienced staff.

Anyone worked with teams in Kraków - any experiences?

looks like there might be more coming

If you have been LOYAL to Nokia for the past 15+ years, even without a salary increase for several years, and have stayed with the company because you enjoy the work and want to see Nokia be successful, than Nokia should also be LOYAL to it's employees as well, by keeping the experienced employees employed since telecommunication network product(s) knowledge can't be gained within a few years, but takes years, if not decades to master it (if that's even possible). Once that experienced person is laid off (replaced by a much less knowledgeable person), it will be difficult for the company to make quality products to deliver to it's customers. It may be able to meet the deadline to deliver the product to the customer, but the quality of the product will suffer due to the lack of experienced knowledge. Hence, loss in Billions of dollars in revenue as we have seen in the past with loss of AT&T and Verizon. Will Nokia continue to make the same mistakes by putting quality last (by laying off the older experienced employees)?

It’s always the experienced, skilled, and competent people who are shown the door first. Being older only makes it worse. It just proves that no company truly values expertise, hard work, or dedication. If they think they can run things with cheap labor and inexperienced replacements, let them try. We’ll see how far that gets them.

Anyone notice new grad job postings with salaries $130k- $180k??? For new grads???

But we can those with experience and knowledge.

It’s purely cost reduction. That’s why we’ve been losing so many veterans, experienced, and competent people. It’s always about the bottom line. It has nothing to do with dedication, creativity, resourcefulness, or hard work. Being a valuable contributor has become more of a burden than an advantage. Quality comes with a high price tag.

The time will come, and judging by how things look very soon, when chasing cheap, unskilled labor will backfire. There’s only so much core knowledge and experience a company can drain before everything collapses. Sooner or later, corporations will have to relearn the value of skilled labor - years of specialization, hard-earned expertise, and creativity born from experience. AI isn’t replacing anyone, and this obsession with cheap, easily replaceable workers will only lead to ruin. We’re already starting to see it happen.

Eastman continues to layoff tenured employees, keeping less experienced (certainly less paid) employees… regardless of merit. It’s shameful.

They are handling employees so much better these days. It must be some management change or strategy change

I just heard about the terrible accident in Portugal, and this line from the article struck me:

“there's a lack of people with a good memory and who learned from their elders.' 'All of those people have left'

I think this is very applicable to what we are doing in Chevron, and I hope and pray we will not have any incidents caused by inexperience and loss of seasoned professionals.

Simple yes and why or no and why not will suffice. Just curious.

I left Oracle three years ago and now see many former colleagues moving into VP or Senior Director roles. The bar seems lower than a decade ago. Back then, an IC5 promotion required pitching to several VPs; Director → Senior Director often took 5–8 years of hard work; becoming VP could take around a decade for top performers. Today I’m seeing a average guy become regional VP of AI with only a bachelor’s degree, little to no AI experience, and limited overall sales experience (<3 years at Microsoft, and in fact later fired). Has the process changed, or are titles being inflated? Where is this going? Is this a talent development, I guess not...

So many MDs have job postings on their teams for Director or below that require something like an MBA or CFA, yet these same MDs only have a bachelors. I realize this isn’t specific to BNY but as someone in that network I’ve been seeing so much of this lately. As a manager, I don’t care where you went to school - I’m looking at your experiences first and if you interview well and seem like you could fit in. I have an MBA but it hasn’t really been a driver in my career. I wonder how much hiring managers actually pay attention to this.

Hi! I worked for Oracle years ago was laid off, seen all of this before. Been there done that.

Oracle does mass culls and purges very regularly, sometimes more frequently or aggressive than others, but it's the way they have always run the business. They also tend to cut aggressively when they do cut.

As for how to deal with it. If you've just been laid off, don't look back. Let go. It's gone. Focus on you and the future and think very broadly about what your skills are. Oracle likely had you fixated on some small things which really narrows your perspective over time. Don't think about going back unless you become desperate for money and just use it as an interim step. Never try to make sense of what they are doing, why they are doing or what just happened to you. You will go crazy.

For the people who are there, unless you're VERY senior, look outside the company. There are a lot of interesting things going on, and certainly better paid.

I was laid off years ago. I didn't want to go. I was "happy" but a better word was complacent bordering on lazy. In reality I was being underpaid, not appreciated and wasn't enjoying it. It's now worked out a LOT better for me, but make no mistake, it was unnerving, uncomfortable and unsettling at the time. I look back and wish I'd left years earlier. Other people had this same advice but I couldn't bring myself to leave.

Oracle treat employees like abused animals because they can. They know there is no shortage. Their business model allows them to do this financially and the law allows them to. The only way not to be exploited is not to play their game.

Good luck. I hope you all make it through this mentally unscathed or traumatised.