The Executive Board, Supervisory Board, Group Executives, L1, L2, etc. will never ever allow a VERP in the US. The only places where they allow that are Germany and France and only because they are forced to by the strong worker protections. However... — read more
Apprehensive about the Global Employee Meeting
I feel a bit apprehensive about the upcoming Global Employee Meeting. Our results were good and beat market expectations and I know I should not feel this way. We have a lot of positive cash flow and can sustain good growth if we continue the... — read more
Stock up by 6%, close to 150 EUR
Therefore there is no need for layoffs. We are safe. No need to worry.
Layoff confirmed
Christian Klein confirmed on CNBC this morning layoffs are coming when he challenged if he would follow META's call of a 10% cut. He said efficiency is a priority for SAP
Anyone heard anything concrete about restructuring or layoffs?
I've only seen the Q numbers. Was there any mention of cuts or reorg?
Hint, hint! SAP HR, follow in Microsoft’s footsteps
I don’t know who at SAP needs to hear this, but please do this! https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/23/microsoft-plans-first-voluntary-retirement-program-for-us-employees.html
SAP Doomsday? Stock in freefall!!
SAP is in freefall because investors are reacting to weaker-than-expected cloud backlog growth and a softer 2026 cloud outlook, which raised fears that near-term growth is slowing. The selloff was also amplified by analyst downgrades/target cuts... — read more
SAP Q1 2026 results
SAP will release its Q1 2026 results on April 23, at around 10:05 PM CEST. I think these results will tell a lot about current situation and 'mitigation' measures. Somebody here wrote about expected not-so-good results... Any insight?
Are we really the odd group out?
My group is small and kind of isolated from the rest of the company. And nobody here wants to leave. The pay is good, we don't work crazy hours, and leadership keeps telling us we're safe. Whether that's true or not is not certain, but it's enough to... — read more
Unfiltered, Performance Management and Executive Compensation
Do you know that executives are not part of the new Performance Management? I spoke to an HR colleague yesterday and she mentioned this to me. I was shocked. It seems that the automatic calculation only pertains to T1 to T5 employees. Executives in... — read more
AITA for expecting the SAP share price to drop below 100?
I feel that Q1 earnings call will be a complete disaster. CK and DA are unhinged and have not grounded in reality anymore. They keep blaming employees, the market and even shareholders for their own personal failures. In a market where many companies... — read more
Keep learning
The market is rough if your skills aren't current. That's just the truth.
I'm gone soon
If I get laid off, great, gives me more of a safety net, but I'll be gone either way by mid-May. I'm looking forward to watching SAP sink. They have mistreated me enough it will be enjoyable to watch it crash and burn.
Final Agreement for Layoffs signed last week
Job ads will mostly disappear. Senior positions will be T3 and T4 only because they refuse to eliminate any T5 roles. Executives across the board mainly just listen to the executive board without doing much work themselves. The actual work is handled... — read more
How to be safe?
I need this job, I have a family and a mortgage. By all means: what can I do to maximize my survival probability at this company? Any hints? I am sure a lot of people need this information today!
Mass Layoffs Outlook from HR Sycophants
https://www.wsj.com/business/has-the-era-of-the-mega-layoff-arrived-928f061d?st=dHcPii&reflink=article_copyURL_share “Others are going to follow suit,” said Beth Steinberg, a veteran human-resources executive who has spent much of her career at... — read more
Layoffs to be used to show Joule efficiency at Sapphire
SAP has been keeping a close eye on how Joule and AI agents are being used within the company. They also track the time employees spend and the links they click on SAP product pages. Layoffs are on the horizon, and they’ll be viewed positively if... — read more
What’s the Vibe? Big Layoff Announcement Coming?
Trying to catch the vibe and see through the fluff here. I see a meeting with potential future board member (JG) on the calendar, an earnings call, an all employee meeting, and then a wider team meeting following that. Personally, I was going to... — read more
Selling SAP shares during blackout period
I read the rules around blackout period but I am asking for advice on how they are enforced. Obviously the SAP share price will keep dropping because there is no SAP strategy besides failing at AI and laying off employees and share buybacks. And we... — read more
Unfiltered is out
Let em have it!
Do the direct managers have a say in which exact employee to cut or are they just handed a list of names and have to just execute, no choices ?
Do the direct managers have a say in which exact employee to cut or are they just handed a list of names and have to just execute without making any choices. How does it go about?
Annual Bonus
If layoffs happen before June 1 do they still pay out the annual bonus next year?
CK Warning in 4/10 Bloomberg Article about CHRO Extension
CK warned Thursday that the company’s AI transition would be as painful as its shift to the cloud. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-10/sap-extends-chief-people-officer-contract-after-bonus-complaints
When might layoff start. Which organisation and how many. Any insights?
When might layoff start. Which organisation and how many. Any insights?
Employees are just costs, call them resources not employees
Word to work sentence from our vice president in a call this morning with many managers. According to him, employees are a cost and we need to find ways to reduce costs. If we are not laying off, we can probably put more work on them so they're more... — read more
US Ask me anything with TS, MA and JG
Thoughts on this? More general BS or or post large layoff related BS?
Less effort each time
Every single round of cuts made me care less. My work ethic has dropped with each one. I just don't see the point anymore.
Financial Pressure for layoffs
SAP is under a lot of financial pressure and the only way to fix this is by mass layoffs. Basically, we are investing too much in stock buybacks, AI (data centers and development) and bonuses. The executive board wants to axe the last one and... — read more
The joblessness of AI (WSJ)
Sounds familiar. “Everyone I talked to is consumed by AI—either how to use it, how to pretend to use it, how much they hate using it, how it’s going to eliminate their position or their company’s product,” he... — read more
This needs more visibility! SAP to pay Teradata $480M
https://www.theregister.com/2026/03/02/sap_teradata_settlement/ This is one of the most loud and clear signals about SAP's lack of ethics and integrity. The court is finding SAP guilty! In June 2018, Teradata sued SAP, alleging the database giant... — read more
Concur?
What is happening with SAP Concur? Seems ripe for a full transformation or integration into SAP. After 12 years the company doesn’t “fit” at SAP? Layoffs? Hiring freeze? New Germans? Spin off?
Share buybacks means no innovation, change my mind
Just what the title says. Change my mind. Here’s my rationale. A public company usually focuses on either profit maximization for its shareholders or customer acquisition for future profit maximization for its shareholders. This usually means heavy... — read more
Huge JP Morgan - SAP Share Price Downgrade today
260 euros to 175 new target. That is a huge reduction!!!! Why? https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/jpmorgan-cuts-sap-neutral-cloud-085540218.html
Public Service: Transfer your RSUs
SAP has remained committed to the current trajectory despite significant stock decreases and negative feedback from both customers and employees. Stock is now at $175 and forecasts, combined with SAP's stubbornness, imply that it is very unlikely to... — read more
Are we doomed?
Share price nosediving. CK and iceman DA staying. MA probably being replaced by JG, the person responsible for messing up HPOM by making DMs people leads (rumor has it that Marty Cagan has disavouwed SAPs HPOM implementation also due to... — read more
Layoffs at €150 share price
In many discussions with the Betriebsrat, the executive board noted that they won’t push for layoffs in 2026 as long as the share price is above €150. With the global economy crashing and SAP reducing innovation and its core business to curry favor... — read more
SAP.DE Share price is decreasing rapidly today
It reaches 158€ ! Any info on the possible causes ?
McKinsey is a Trojan Horse
All European companies hire McKinsey to understand how they can run their business better. But McKinsey is not working for the benefit of these companies or Europe. McKinsey is working for the benefit of billionaires in the US. Recently McKinsey... — read more
Off cycle progression
Is off cycle progression still possible?
convo with manager
im sorry for the vague post. i dont have a lot of info and im wondering if anyone has heard anything similar. i have a great relationship with my manager. they told me in our last meeting that they were told to brace for a disruptive announcement. i... — read more