#rto

I have a 2 hour round trip to Dallas HQ that I do everyday. I am looking forward to my commute on Monday morning. In the morning it gives me a chance to plan my day. And in the evening I get the opportunity to reflect on my day while driving home. I am too tired to do anything once I am home so I have no trouble falling asleep on time. I love working here. Thank you JS and RTO.

I hate RTO. I eat lunch in my car most days because I just can't deal with the constant noise and the incessive small talk anymore. That little bit of quiet is honestly the best part of my day.

Are IPs really being tracked I have been doing the four hours but only see mac 2 people , curious if there is ways around this and I’m missing out on this? Doesn’t it matter for bonus or am I just wasting my time?

I was out filling up my vehicle to the tune of $4.28 a gallon and it got me thinking about how this company has been exploiting us all in every way.

If you follow the government's inflation numbers(CPI), prices are up 8.3 percent since January 2024. So unless your salary grew by 8.3 percent you effectively got a pay cut.

Over that same stretch, from the bank's own SEC filings: the CEO's base salary went from $1,000,000 to $1,200,000, with a cash incentive target of 275 percent of base and another $1,500,000 in stock. The outgoing CEO stepped down to Executive Chairman at a $1,400,000 base — more than the sitting CEO makes.

For us low caste employees, hypothetically on a $95,000 salary that's $7,900 a year you should be making and aren't. For merit increases, a token 2 percent leaves you 6.3 points short, about $6,000. The 3 percent that felt like a win is still 5.3 points short, $5,000 gone. Even a 5 percent year, which almost none of us saw, lands 3.3 points short.

Then there's the time they stole from us. RTO three days a week at 45 minutes each way is 216 hours a year. That is 5.4 work-weeks we work for free. Our year is 2,296 hours now, not 2,080. It never shows up on a pay stub. That's exactly why they can take it.

Then there's the driving. Thirty miles each way, three days a week, is 9,500 miles a year. Gas is up 24.6 percent in twelve months. The IRS raised its own mileage rate mid-year to 76 cents a mile because running a car got that much more expensive. That's $7,200 a year, and we pay it with after-tax dollars, so we have to earn about $11,000 to cover it.

Stack all three and our real hourly rate is down between 18 and 25 percent. Someone at $95,000 was making $45.67 an hour. They make about $35 now.

I know there are some braindead boomers and beta-male bootlickers in here who will say to su-k it up, but when I run the numbers I don't see how I can do that. I assume any of you in here saying that just really enjoy getting bent over. Any reasonable person would be angry.

Yesterday the VOE survey landed - honestly, you have to applaud the impeccable timing of these geniuses trying to double down on RTO with 3 days / 8-hour metrics.
What is this, high school?
As long as we’re delivering on objectives, why on earth should anyone be measuring hours like this? I’m perfectly fine with going to the office three times a week.
I’m not advocating for badge-swipe-only behavior, but if someone needs to leave after lunch or a 1 or 2 of hours early and then continue working remotely, especially those of us with families, why should that be penalized?
All this is going to achieve is pushing people into strict “bare-minimun” mode and accelerating quiet quitting across the bank.

Why is the RTO only to certain locations while other locations are enjoying lyf?

Once upon a time, WFB was a great company to work for. I worked through many bank mergers and changes. Most all team members worked hard but were recognized and rewarded fairly. In late 2019, things started changing. Layoffs, change in benefits, Severance times were reduced, etc...then the pandemic happened. My biggest regret is not seeing the writing on the wall. I regret working 12+ hours/day for days on end to meet quarterly deadlines. I regret not speaking up to advocate for others and myself. I regret not job searching early on, thinking I'd be able to reach full retirement age. at WF I regret not moving my 401K to another institution as soon as age permitted. I regret not contributing more to Roth vs. conventional 401k (biggest regret!). I regret not furthering my education to pursue other opportunities.

What I don't regret are all the amazing people I worked with over the years and still keep in touch with to this day. I sure miss the company WF used to be. The Holiday parties, office lunches, employee-family picnics, bowling and softball nights...it once was a lot of fun and an enjoyable place to work. I looked forward to going into work. Unfortunately, today's generation will never know what that kind workplace culture.

After 30+ years, I was displaced before I could reach FRA. It's been over a year since displacement and after hundreds of job applications, not one interview. Yes, I've worked with job coaches, AI, etc...but unfortunately young senior's are not wanted except for Wallmart greeter type jobs.

I loved my job and the people I worked with, received great reviews, tolerated little if no raises, but would have been grateful to say I was able to fully retire from there. I don't miss the RTO mandates, feeling like big brother was constantly watching, the micro-managing managers the last few years, constant manager turnover, and just the overall toxicity in the office. This is my last post, then I'm off this site. Not looking for any mean or sarcastic comments. I just wanted to vent and get my thoughts out so I can move on and not look back. Good Luck to all of you who are still working, especially the long-timers if there are still any 30+ TM's out there.

I thought intel was making employees work from an office, no more remote work from home, other states, other countries?

Seems like the status quo to at the sites, did intel chicken out ?

If there are lactation rooms, focus rooms, changing rooms and family bathrooms, why can't there be smoking rooms on campus as well?

I gave up smoking 7-8 years ago but I am thinking of starting again since RTO and I wonder who the employers are to dictate how we damage or take care of our health as adults? Charge me more for health insurance if you need. I anyway think I am overpaid for the job I do.

Does anyone think putting this in the next pulse survey as a suggestion would be taken seriously?

Let’s start the conversation!

Upcoming topics??

1. RTO 5 days a week
2. ALL JOBS TO INDIA / PHILIPPINES. Good luck to you.
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Just the beginning of Groundhog Day for us all?! This is the daily grind personified.
I just think after 6 years of ft wfh and then hybrid this is going to be a really difficult slope to scale after a couple of months with no let us except an errant holiday or vacation day?
What were they thinking?!!
I’m exhausted just thinking about how tedious this gets and how arduous it is after a long day.
It doesn’t help and it’s not political because gas dollar for dollar was higher under Carter obamma and even joe much higher but it’s painful at the pump. The average on today’s dollar would be between $5-6 on average.

Ever since the 4 days in work/ 1 day remote announcement, so many people in my division have applied for medical accommodations to work from home. I am curious how many will be approved. If you have a genuine need, that is okay. The people I know do not have a genuine need. They are just revolting against the 4 days. I hate the 4 days too so I understand the emotions. But that doesn't mean you should fake a medical need.

Being forced into offices that are noisy, inefficient, and uncomfortable has made everybody nervous and short-tempered. Even a small ask can get an over-the-top reaction - and I don't even blame people for being like that. Those who are calling it the "great leap backward" are right.

So your IC will take a hit if you do not meet workday persona.

Has anyone seen the data Ron used to support his BS claims about "productivity" gains while being in the office?

We never seem to have a shortage of complaints regarding RTO, so I’d like to add a potential new one to the list. I’m curious how they are actually calculating RTO, since that seems to be an ongoing issue. Does anyone know if this WiFi geolocation technology is something they are using, or considering using? I found this article and found the possibility is honestly quite terrifying.

https://www.howtogeek.com/708500/how-devices-use-wi-fi-to-determine-your-physical-location/

For the amount of roles moved to Mexico and India why do they not have the same RTO policy? Or do they? Can someone share please….

We recently received the RTO email and there are various ways to track it by badging in (parking lot, building entry) etc. How will this be tracked and what are the repercusions of not adhering to this? My co-worker told me she is going to continue working only 3 days per week and said no one is tracking this. I told her they were.

It doesn't make sense, There isn't enough work to fill the day, what am I going to do for 8 hours? do they still sell newspapers? will I run out of 5G or phone battery all day? The art of looking busy only carries me so far.

I was one of the many coffee badgers when they switched the reporting metrics back in march to IP connections. I’m super worried about this putting me in the queue for a layoff. Anyone in management know how they’re handling those numbers (Jan-march 2026) for reviews, reductions etc?

So…. Thoughts on the RTO expectations that shake out to 3/4 times per week? In case you didn’t see: 14 days per month. 4 days have to be M or F.

6 hrs mandatory with badge out.

I've heard rumors that employees will eventually be required to work in the same location as their manager or a certain percentage of their team but nothing definite.

I show up at the office. I sit there for 8 hours to the exact minute.
All I do is hang out, talk to people around the office, scroll on my phone and watch Netflix on my iPad.
The best part is with this new 8&skate culture there’s really no pressure to deliver anything anymore. As long as you show up and sit you get an exceeds rating.
I’ve significantly reduced my hours and no longer feel any stress or pressure because I no longer care. I’ll stick around and keep doing the exact same thing until I’m paid to leave.
You bootlickers can keep ki-ling yourselves to pick up the slack while I get the same rating, pay, and bonus for 1/8th of the workload. You keep working hard and paying my bills while I keep chillin. Thanks!

This should be the next survey question. Why would you wish WF success? The bank's very publicized plan for success blatantly excludes thousands of US employees, after ruining or at least significantly disrupting tens of thousands of careers eo Tuesday for the past 5-7 years. They dont want you to work here any more.

Why would you, after all of the gaslighting, the fake reviews, the micromanaging office time down to 5 minute increments, the soon-to-be-increasing RTO requirements,

"Together we'll go far.......but not with you!"

• Charlie & his squad of goons

Go ahead and downvote me, bootlickers! this is the truth and you all know it

Anyone hear about layoffs later this year? Someone on my team with connections said there will likely be layoffs in December/January depending on how many people quit with the November RTO mandate. The wish from the top is many people quit instead of return.

Plot twist is the layoffs would not just be in Minnesota, but elsewhere as we continue to wind down presence in various locations.

All rumors, but from a good source.

Yes, management will be evaluating people on compliance with RTO in days and hours in the office but they are also going to be assessing people on other factors. High on the list is how you work with other employees. One item specifically identified is respect for others. An example given to managers is the widespread negativity toward others based on age - especially all the references to dinosaurs, fossils and A0s. Be forewarned.

Is 8/31 the big, anticipated day when everyone is expected back to the office in Boston and MMK?

Here’s hoping the RTO scares off the fossils so the rest of us can finally grow

Is anyone else hearing whispers of five days a week next year?

In Corp Risk and a few people have mentioned hearing that rumor over the past few days.

Don’t look now, but it looks like the first shoe dropped . A major federal case on telework just found that RTO for telework was uncovered as illegal and exposed for its real intention of a way to force workers off payroll. Since being laid off a little over a year ago I’ve worked in Washington knocking on doors and exposing the flood of workers from India that transpired prior to this flood of layoffs, and exposing AT&T for targeting older workers in some of their most critical and vulnerable years of working. I’ve made a lot of headway in pushing for more obstacles of this flood of workers from abroad to replace the American skilled labor. I’ve just begun with that, but this recent legal fight has just begun. While this current case that was just won singles out the RTO trick that was played on Government workforce workers, this may have a trickle down affect in the private sector. When companies like T do things that were illegal, it greatly reduces the effect of that , “no sue” paper they forced you to sign or forgo you earned severance. That’s also another thing I’m working on with my talks to senators. This little game that T has waged against the workforce should be exposed for what it is. I encourage that the ones who were impacted by this game T played with past layoffs and the upcoming layoffs with no cost to T be exposed. If you were wrapped up in this game please take some time to sit down and send an e-mail to your local state leaders especially in places like Texas and Georgia. Don’t give up just because people from upper management kicked you in your teeth. Transfer your mobile, internet and other communications to less expensive providers, make sure you hit up “friends and family” about cheaper services as well. This is the impact to the company when they abuse its older vulnerable workforce. I know from inside sources that more layoffs are upon us prior to entering the holiday season, hang in there, don’t give up, and know that your targeted voice to you local state elected leaders matter.

Can we carpool?
Can anyone share the severance plan?
Can I buy PTO out of the benefits enrollment period?
What will my bonus be?
What is up with RTO?
Does anyone have dirt to share with the news?
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Our team just announced a restructure and shifted people around and not replacing a Director who jumped ship. Another sloppy decision from a mediocre leadership team. Sinking ship here in SLOD and all we focus on is RTO

There's going to be waves of people leaving in September when the RTO policy goes into effect, and when Executive Leadership(ELT) realizes the reduction in payroll expenses isn't quite hitting the goals set by TPG, they are going to do mass layoffs. Entire departments will be eliminated if not reduced to a skeleton crew. High cost centers like Product Development will probably see substantial cuts, simply because most of that department live more than 30 miles away from an office, they're not going to cover relocation fees so it's easier to just cut. We are already seeing hiring freezes in PD when long-tenured software engineers left with no backfilling, budget constraints is the excuse given. I estimate that there will be massive RIFs in mid-October through December, then they will probably announce it in January 2027 just like last year.

I got laid off last year which was the best thing that has ever happened to me.

What has been happening since then? Is RTO still strict 5 days a week? Are they still tracking hours?

Bad news for RTO trolls on this site. Joe Russo just confirmed the RTO policy is "not a top down one size fits all" policy. He said he encourages everyone to talk to their managers to see what they need to do to be most effective in delivering business outcomes. He also hinted that more company real estate sales will continue.

How do you think this whole RTO debacle will go? Do you think it’s going to crash and burn and Fidelity will admit their mistakes and return to at least some WFH time? Or do you think they will force us to put up with the terrible conditions until enough people quit that will satisfy their reduced headcount need? I need to see a brighter side to all of this nonsense.

Asking for a friend who is expecting an offer.

Is it 2 days per week ? Or can done 4 days a week and skip full next week ?

Are there any min hours in office requirement ? Or is coffee badging ok ?