Thread regarding PNC layoffs

@sp does AMG still use that mind-dulling Lean Management style of doing things ?

I heard they have to tell each other everyday how they are feeling by using a 1-10 rating scale. And if you don’t say you’re a 10, then you’re considered a Detractor.

Also heard they have to track their daily performance by recording how much time they spend each day working on particular functions … heard they micro manage their people to death, too.

Can anyone confirm if that’s true ?

@m8 Whose posting to AMG?!?! Hahaha

@n7 OOOPPFFF!! SOMEONE IS ANGRY!?! Wonder if all that commuting, loss of income due to gas and buying fancy work pants and playcating to people's faces all day have anything to do with it?

@n6 HAHAHAHAHA No. I was full time remote waaaaaaaay before COVID and almost everyone I worked with who had a laptop was hybrid 2/3. troll somewhere else

@qh hey next time you want to make a joke, could you make sure it’s funny first?

My group worked a hybrid schedule pre-pandemic because there were literally more employees in the buildings than places for them to sit. Every day was a squid-game scale round of musical chairs. It was not unusual to arrive after a stressful commute only to be unable to find a seat, let alone anything near your team. Arguably the whole point of in-office work. There was no rotation or schedule, but enough people going hybrid eased the problem until we all got sent home full time for Covid anyway. That’s the big relief no one seems to remember.

Management and realty services spent untold millions converting all the properties to open address because it was trendy five years prior in Silicon Valley. By the time they were finished other big companies were realizing it didn’t work. Behind the times again.

I don’t hate going in, but without any assigned seating or other attempts at continuity it’s going to be a sh-t show. Management literally gets told by leadership “you’re all adults, figure it out” which is insane policy.

@qh Ha! I’m the “dummy” to whom you were referring. I was joking as well and I did just give you the “thumbs up” because I believe we are on the same page. I do agree with you follow up comment

@n6 except it wasn’t. For 8 years prior to the pandemic, my group worked from home 2 days a week

@na So you are admitting to stealing from the company?

@fw what does that mean?

@nw try and figure out this equation ……

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@na This likely runs afoul of almost any company's ethics and employee conduct policies. Those things are drafted airtight. Any good company has a mega law firm review them and provide boilerplate templates proven effective at stopping scotch tape shrink.

Additionally, where do you plan to store the volume of inventory to offset the $500 monthly cost adder you will see in connection with RTO? That would be one giant surge of scotch tape and paperclips--perhaps a modular pole barn would be one option? I'm concerned your estimates of storage space needed are on the low side. I did a rough cost buildup for you and it is looking like you might hit breakeven around year 16.

@n9 Jesus Christ is Debbie Guild your coke dealer or did Billy boy get done planning the next US recession to shitpost on here.

Found the senior manager on this thread, don't let this traitor discourage you. PNC has artificially lowered every employees salaries for no reason except an additional tax break in Pitt.

Stay angry, stay united. Solidarity forever.

@n9 "Your parents and grandparents didn’t clutch their pearls when they dragged themselves to factories, steel mills, or offices through blizzards, recessions, and zero excuses, working 50–60 hours without whining about “boundaries” or “mental health days.”

Probably because they actually got paid enough to build a life, afford a home, provide for their families, etc off of their salaries. There was actually an incentive to physically be present for your job in those days. Money.

Same cannot be said currently, and not only that, now you're asking people to go out of their way to spend even more of the money that they don't have on parking garages, gas, etc. It's easy to write these small silly expenses off as "business expenses" when you're in the high tower, but these are very abysmal costs for your average employee who is already struggling.

Of course that doesn't matter and there will be no sympathy. Just giving you a different perspective.

@n9 I work from home full time and while my work day doesn’t start until 8 am, I’m up at 4 am to workout, shower, prepare myself for the day. After my day job, I go right to my second job. You sound ignorant insinuating that because people are upset about RTO that they MUST be lazy, undisciplined and entitled. Of course I encourage people to leave if they’re not willing to obey the policy- PNC has a right to enforce it and we have a right to walk away. But let’s give this “stop being lazy and go to work” narrative a rest.

@kj just start your family. Children are a blessing. Don’t let the asinine decisions of a bank executive rob you of the best things in life.

I don’t know about all you people out there complaining about RTO but I miss taking pens, post-it notes , scotch tape , paper clips, envelopes etc etc etc from the store room closet. Ive been home for nearly 6 years and I ran out of supplies a year ago. I’m looking forward to May 4th so I can re-stock. Hahaha

RTO , here I come !!!!

Oh, spare me the symphony of sobs.
Five days in the office? The sheer barbarity—having to commute, interact with actual humans, and survive without your sacred pajama uniform.
Your parents and grandparents didn’t clutch their pearls when they dragged themselves to factories, steel mills, or offices through blizzards, recessions, and zero excuses, working 50–60 hours without whining about “boundaries” or “mental health days.” They just… did the job. And somehow built lives, families, and entire economies without the luxury of endless Zoom calls from bed.
Contrary to popular belief, Bill Demchak didn’t claw his way to CEO of PNC by lounging at home in sweatpants—he grinded through decades at JP Morgan Chase, climbing the ladder in real offices, building structured finance empires, and showing up where the deals (and the scrutiny) actually happened. No remote-work fairy tale there; just relentless in-person hustle that turned him into the boss now telling everyone to get back to it.
So go on, keep mourning your lost freedom like it’s the fall of Rome.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world remembers that success usually requires leaving the couch.
Put on real clothes, hero. The fluorescent lights miss your dramatic sighs. 🙄

@mr Typical snowflake response. I’ll bet you hate I.C.E. also

Oh wow, you poor, fragile little snowflakes. Five. Whole. Days. In the office. Ask your parents how they survived, I dare you.
I mean, how will your delicate souls possibly survive the crushing horror of… checks notes… putting on real pants, seeing other human faces, and walking more than twelve steps from your couch to your fridge? The humanity. The absolute tragedy.
I can practically hear the tiny violins playing a funeral dirge for your sacred WFH kingdom. “But my commute! But my sacred 11:17 a.m. yoga break! But my dog’s emotional support schedule will be disrupted!” Cry me a river, build a bridge, and then walk across it… to the office… for five days… like literally every job on earth did for the last 80 years without spontaneously combusting.
Truly, you’re the real victims here. The rest of us who’ve been commuting since the invention of shoes are just jealous of your heroic struggle against the oppressive regime of… having to shower before noon and pretend to work while someone watches.
Bless your brave, brave hearts. 🥲
Now get in the car and go touch some grass that isn’t your living room carpet. The world is waiting to be mildly inconvenienced by your presence.

So leave if you are unhappy? 5 day work week was the standard before COVID. You all bought into that farce of a pandemic and have become so spoiled that you forgot what a 5 day work week was. If you are unhappy then quit and go find another job. No one is keeping you at PNC.

@mj my previous colleagues received an email from the head of AMG that clearly states their role isn’t impacted and they will remain remote. I think that’s been the company’s issue the whole time - different rules for different areas of the bank and no enforcement or guidance on what “flexibility” truly means.

f&&k you Bill and thankyou

@k8 so for 15 years you were making more money than your coworkers that went to work and had to spend money on all the things you listed. You should have a nice nest egg built up to handle those expenses.

@kj crazy you can still start a family. Its almost like people did that for years. Had 2 full time working parents.

@m8 I think it’s happening in phases. Instead of bringing everyone back at once. They will probably have everyone back to 5 in office days by 2027.

ROFL Firstbank folks sure aren't going to wait around until acquisition gets completed with this news. There's already been "please PLEASE stay" talk, that's definitely going to get ramped up. Not to mention cr-ppy bosses, I bet the zero notice departures are going to go wild.

The issue I have is that this is not consistent across the enterprise. Why does my LOB need to RTO 5 days with seemingly no flexibility yet those in AMG do not have to RTO at all?

@m5 That's because the real goal is to get people to quit. It's a soft layoff. The RTO not making sense and pi----g people off is a feature, not a bug.

I’ll be one of them. Kick rocks Demchak. Saving my resignation for Friday to ruin their weekend

My job can be done 100% remote, I don’t interact with the other members of my team, it’s all “at your own pace” type of environment. My team isn’t even based in the same state as I am located. So why even go in? Just to stare at the cubicle walls? Without additional pay, parking stipend, or help with childcare costs (which PNC graciously sent an email earlier that the Tower would offer full time care starting at $2,250/month!) I’d be losing money every paycheck just to keep by…PNC can’t seriously expect the RTO mandate to be beneficial to anyone except for the execs and those who hate their families and want to spend their entire lives staring at their computers.

I almost committed su----e working there. Worst 10 years of my life. All the talent left. Was a few good people. Never again.

I saw the red flags early on and made the choice to leave the company - best decision I’ve ever made. I know it’s easier said than done, but PNC needs to feel the pain of losing more employees than they expected before it will ever commit to fixing the culture. To everyone now searching for a new job: stay strong and good luck!

@kj That’s why companies are returning to the office. Abuse of the privilege because you can’t raise small kids and work at the same time. Nothing more frustrating than talking on the phone to someone who’s baby is crying.

The jobs situation is dismal, creating leverage for heads of companies to force in-office compliance.
https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2026/01/13/return-to-office-workers-back-down-as-employers-reclaim-power-in-2026/176235/

I’m glad we were able to complete one of the largest projects in PNC history (Project Taurus) during the height of COVID. We couldn’t have done it without the in-office collaboration…..oh wait. I’m glad we were able to acquire BBVA during peek covid times. We couldn’t have done it without the in-office collaboration….oh wait. Consistently beating earnings, record growth and net income, all time high stock price on Jan 8, 26. This was all completed with a vast majority of WFH employees. This RTO is politically driven, a power move, and a coercion by Bill’s friend Jamie Dimon. Teams will dwindle, property taxes will rise because the buildings have “value” again, people who stay will need to carry the weight of lost loyal employees. This power move is not sitting well with any of the coworkers I chat with.

We were going to start a family this year. Now that plan is not feasible. The corporate boomers are so out of touch. I understand I get maternity leave but it takes more than a few months to raise a baby.

Ugh!! Im looking to relocate to a different city with a different office around that time. I guess I better reach out to my manager soon to make sure there's a spot.

Everyone who is saying all have to return is not correct. Just got an email that says my position is still remote

@OP wow corporate communication can not even rollout the communications correctly. The links in the emails do not work.