#telecommunications

Fixed Wireless Johnny Stinkey. Not everyone wants or needs Ferrari like Fiber Speeds. 9/10 are content with Fixed Wireless. Running Fiber all over the map is a Stinkey move. Johnny Stinkey is always a day late and a dollar short.

IBEW AND CWA already struck a deal with verizon. January 2026 they'll start cutting service techs then outside plant they're saving splicers because they can work down in title

Verizon's Competitive Pricing Strategy
Aggressive Holiday Promotions
Verizon has recently implemented aggressive holiday promotions that significantly undercut T-Mobile's pricing. This strategy aims to attract customers by offering larger discounts across various price tiers. Analysts suggest that Verizon is now positioned as the discount provider in the market, a role that T-Mobile previously held.
Financial Implications
Despite the attractive deals, Verizon is reportedly incurring losses with these promotions, estimated at $640 per account. The company believes that retaining customers through these discounts will lead to long-term profitability as subscribers typically upgrade their plans and purchase additional services over time.
Market Positioning
Verizon's new pricing strategy includes a "Bring Your Bill" promotion, which allows customers to bring their current bills from T-Mobile or AT&T to receive a customized offer that often matches or slightly undercuts their existing costs. This initiative is part of Verizon's effort to reverse recent customer losses and enhance its competitive stance in the wireless market.
Conclusion
Overall, Verizon's current pricing strategy is designed to attract customers from T-Mobile by offering better deals, even at the cost of short-term losses. This shift in strategy marks a significant change in the competitive landscape of the telecommunications industry.

The result of this is T-Mobile has already followed Verizon’s lead and has started laying off employees in order to cut costs. Dan is a genius, the race to the bottom has begun!

https://share.google/LSmQR8g5i7nTjPmMS

It felt good. Really good. I know of three friends doing the same from the layoffs. Total lines are 26 leaving. The bill becomes untenable. Twice the price for the same customer service. Same overseas reps too. DPAs are paid too. No commitment. Just pay the final bill.

“Back at the All-In Summit, David Friedberg asked Musk: "Could you buy some carriers to acquire more spectrum? Maybe buy Verizon?"

Musk replied: "Not out of the question. I suppose that may happen."

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/spacex-trademark-filing-signals-starlink-mobile-may-soon-take-aim-att-verizon

Is anybody else worried that with the never-ending layoffs pretty much everywhere, even if we manage to find a job we'll be out within a few months because of the first in first out rule? I know everybody is getting rid of seasoned employees, but they have to balance it, and new employees usually pay the price.

Or how to run it. Things have improved a little bit since the 2018 to 2022 fiasco, but it's still more than clear how far out of their depth the leadership is.

We didn’t learn anything about changes made and was he drunk, hasn’t slept in days, or showing signs of a stroke?

Something seemed off

Coming in 2026 ....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/11/30/this-is-when-microsoft-starts-telling-your-boss-if-youre-not-at-work/

Folks, has anyone looked at the latest Gross and Net Adds from all major carriers. Numbers are not adding up.

Are these telcos cooking them up?!?

Given this desperate layoffs, firing of the CEO at Verizon, is everything ok? Is there any scrutiny on the numbers from telco??

An inbred, crooked, hillbilly run monopoly that was never equipped to compete in the modern telecommunications economy. Big Ed, with his ginormous golden parachute passing the baton to his simpleton son in law, Randall, who effs it all up and passes the baton to an incompetent flunky named Stankey. Who in their right mind would think that what was AT&T could possibly succeed?

For laid off people leaving Verizon, we had a thread on this (link below).
It was a good thread, with 20+ responses.

Here is a summary.

T-Mobile / TMO

• Regular plans cheaper than Verizon even with Verizon employee discount
• Promo for current and former Verizon employees: 2 months free service and free phones, code: VZEX (through sales reps)
• Costco / Sams Club T-Mobile deals: about 450 dollars in gift cards per line when signing up
• Several people report good network quality and paying less than with Verizon
• In Florida, one person reports faster network and no dead spots with Starlink feature
• One commenter is joining a T-Mobile family plan via active duty military daughter to save money

Tello

• Used as a cheap line for kids
• Around 100 minutes plus unlimited texts for under 10 dollars per month
• Has unlimited plans, described as the cheapest the commenter has seen

Visible

• One person planning to sign up, likes the site and the value on Verizon network
• Another has a 20 dollar per month plan and had no issues
• Note: Visible is owned by Verizon, which reduces the stick it to Verizon satisfaction

US Mobile

• Prepaid: 10 dollars per month for unlimited talk, text, and 2 GB data
• Extra data: 4 dollars per additional 2 GB
• Has unlimited data plans as well
• You can choose to use Verizon, AT&T, or T-Mobile network
• Another deal: if you pay in advance, about 25 dollars per month per line on Verizon or other networks

Helium Mobile

• App based carrier
• Three plans: Free, 15 dollars per month, and 30 dollars per month for unlimited everything
• Likely a T-Mobile reseller
• Instant new number or option to port your existing number

Spectrum Mobile

• Uses Verizon network plus its own WiFi offload
• Around 30 dollars per month with taxes included

Cricket Wireless

• Uses AT&T network, suggested as an option
• Cheap but no details

@OP+1kast0jhx | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kast0jhx

Is ATT or T-Mobile hiring ?

So, it seems that higher-ups have been reading this site, as they have extended the employee discount to 52 weeks from the last day on payroll. Therefore, don't be too quick to disconnect your service. Unless of course, you don't want to give VZ any more of your money.

Verizon's number of employees has been declining over the years. Here are the numbers:

• 2024: 99,600 employees, a 5.5% decrease from 2023
• 2023: 105,400 employees, a 9.99% decrease from 2022
• 2022: 117,100 employees, a 1.1% decrease from 2021
• 2021: 118,400 employees, a 10.44% decrease from 2020
• 2020: 132,200 employees, a 2.07% decrease from 2019
• 2019: 135,000 employees
• 2018: 144,500 employees
• 2017: 155,400 employees
• 2016: 160,900 employees
• 2015: 177,700 employees

The decline in employees is part of Verizon's restructuring efforts under new CEO Dan Schulman, aiming to reduce costs and improve competitiveness in the telecommunications market ¹ ² ³.

“In 2025, Verizon launched an innovative upgrade to its customer service program. Deriving its name from its June 24 launch date, Project 624 is only the first step in Verizon’s ambitions of being “the best applied AI company in the world.” The new product utilizes AI-driven tools to enhance the services provided by human agents, significantly upgrading the telecom giant’s customer experience platform and freeing up agents’ time significantly.”

Link:
https://www.bcg.com/publications/2025/driving-growth-innovation-leading-telco?fbclid=IwZnRzaAOFQj1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5CGNhbGxzaXRlAjI1AAEerLAVPW9q5eP8p9m1WxxdwDETCbPZ7W2aPMXdKgGm30Sv_0fhZNjv6QzaNAc_aem_NdzCqx7G2lXzCBabvBgtpg

Every major index is at all time highs, and AT&T can’t even catch a tailwind. The stock is a DOG, and nobody’s buying what Stinky’s selling. The Street has zero confidence in this leadership team or their “strategy”

Face it, this stock stanks.

There was a post earlier today about the stock price tanking, the Stank’s inability to boost the price, etc. I see it was deleted. Sometimes the truth hurts, but I’m guessing it’s also a sore spot for the company.

I know we are cooked! Managers said they not doing anymore obs. She said do what you want.

With impending layoffs at Verizon of ~15-20K on 11/20, it would be ideal for TMo to offer a special plan for former VZ employees. Easy way to win new lines!

I joined Verizon two years ago right out of college, and I can’t remember a single stretch of time when layoffs weren’t hanging over everyone’s head. Was it always like this in the past, or is this just how things are now? Is it the same everywhere? Is this what I have to look forward to for the rest of my working life?

An AD I know got let go today. More to come for sure.

https://stocks.apple.com/AoOinDLVBRT-cbsHb5qkPGg

MPs were the first to go this week. Maybe this means no more markets??

Several people were RIF'd in Kinetic 10/30. Uniti mixed it up by switching to 5th Thursday and kept this one really quiet.

Sisters, Brothers, and Siblings, I am pleased to announce that your duly elected bargaining committee has reached a tentative agreement (TA) with Frontier Communications after months of hard work, negotiation, and many late nights. This achievement is a testament to the dedication and strength of our
bargaining team. I am also proud to inform you that our National Executive Board voted unanimously in favor of this tentative agreement. This is a significant milestone, and it reflects our commitment to
improving our working conditions and benefits.

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Such a ridiculous ad by us calling T-Mobile deceptive and a hustle. When we as a company are a joke. Like and comment #WeSupportTMobile if you agree.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/t-mobiles-incoming-ceo-att-is-taking-potshots-because-its-under-pressure-152258495.html

So much for that new campaign those smooth-brains on the Q3 Earnings Call were so excited about.

Wish we had a CEO like TMUS

This should have been an offer for Visible. The street is not going to like this next week…

Oh man, are they in for a rude awakening.

Any additional updates?

Organizations impacted: Legg, Engineering Ops, Arnoldi. Who else?

Share price continues to decline after earnings and sales misses. Fiber deployment might be necessary for survival but its not a growth strategy. Fiber is mostly business related - with the economy slowing expect less growth or decline in fiber related revenues. Mobility sales might be a bit better with consumer segment holding up better.

There is no growth driver other than HC reduction in the near term so expect no significant increase in share price even after this sell off. The 16% share price decline since 9-15, which accounts for about four years of dividends, will not be reversed in the near future which is reflected in analyst downgrades. Given the very large decline in share prie prior to the earnings annoucement it is likely the word got out to selected individuals inside and outside the company. The share buyback program has also been a bust having little impact on the share price decline.

What does the future hold? - flat revenues, flat earnings per share, no recovery in share price, no increase in the dividend, a very slow reduction in long term debt (maybe), and a significant reduction in HC.

To be sure AT&T is a slow growth dividend stock that because of technology needs fewer employees over time but just think how much better it would be without $200 billion in long term debt, more spectrum, and better outside management. When Stephenson became CEO the share price was $39.47. When he left it was under $30. Now its under $25. Unfortunately, there is no hope of a change in top management and the BOD. No hope.

And we’re over paying a C list actor and someone in marketing to call out T-Mobile? A competitor whose stock price is 10x ours. We’re doomed. WTF!

We’re a full year into mandatory 5-day RTO and what exactly has it accomplished? The stock is tanking, morale is gone, and the “culture” they promised doesn’t exist.

Wasn’t RTO supposed to be part of some grand plan to save the company? To drive performance? To lift the stock? Because all I see is decline across every metric that matters.

So yeah, maybe it was just another lie. I’m done here. I thought I could stick it out but I can’t do this another year for this dog of a company. Best of luck to all!

Are employee surveys anonimous and confidential for real or are they just lying to us?

ITS FINALLY MY TURN!!!
I AM OUTTA HERE WITH A SEVERANCE!

SO LONG MOFOs!!!! Fu-k this he-l hole.

This company keeps shuffling incompetent people around. I feel sorry for the few that actually run the factory.

For those of you waiting for a severance, I wish you the same joy I feel today!!