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No PTO Payout

Just wow. I was displaced (last day of employment was 12/26/25). Unused PTO payout is due the last day of employment. WF did not make that final payment. When I called, HR Service Center the automated message says payment will be made Jan 30th??? WTH?! Will that include interest?

Lousy and incompetent!


Salary bumps for people stepping into new roles?

So, for people that have now stepped into new roles because of the layoffs and people that left, are we getting salary adjustments? does anyone have any insight on this? or are we just "lucky to have a job" and are supposed to shut up and take it?


Senior leaders mindset

Senior leaders have a certain mindset:

  • do not consider employees as anything but expendable underlings
  • do not consider employees wellbeing or fair pay
  • company culture must be extremely toxic
  • do not care about the quality of products or services or innovation
  • do not care about the overall company reputation or viability
  • only thing that matters is increasing compensation of senior leadership -no matter the cost or consequence
  • although overwhelming majority of revenue comes from US customers, the US employees do not matter whatsoever
  • if you are based in Mexico or another developing country, you get career advancement in the short term
  • almost a billion dollars must be spent on acquiring AI tools that will replace humans. Better if such procurement also grants kickbacks to senior leadership
  • any remaining humans must be worked to death (ideally) or they must be fired for any reason of your choosing. No empathy allowed.

Anything else to add? Who are the worst leaders?


PNC RTO facts (repost)

Bonjour les amis.

Ever since the original post on 12/3 and the news attention that followed, there has been an influx of bad faith posters (executive leadership) on every subsequent post addressing the RTO situation. I wanted to take this opportunity to organize and present my fellow employees with some facts about PNC, its leadership, and the financial aspects of this move.

It is no secret that many large corporations have been enforcing RTO mandates as a "soft layoff," hoping that these no-exception policies reduce enough headcount to avoid the potential bad press of an actual RIF. With PNC specifically, there are some additional financial benefits they are kind enough to pass the cost off to you!

Out of the 55,000 people employed by PNC, 11,000 are local to Pittsburgh and its surrounding areas.

They own a large chunk of downtown Pittsburgh between Tower, One PNC, Two PNC, Three PNC (like a Dr. Seuss book of tax evasion!), and Firstside.

Additionally, they own many of the parking garages, which cost nearly $20/day or $180/month, and the food courts ($10 salads, yay!). PNC also receives a kickback due to its role as the primary bank of nearly every business in the area.

Simply put, there is a direct financial incentive for PNC to enforce an RTO mandate on all employees in the Pittsburgh region.

I mean, can you blame them? With the economy the way it is, they must be taking such a loss just supporting our poor souls.

In 2022, total revenue was $20.64 billion; $20.75 billion in 2023; and $20.77 billion in 2024– a 10.77% jump in Q4 of last year alone. Any "loss of productivity due to remote work" is a classroom rumor rather than anything based in fact.

Let's take a look at employee experience. We see a stagnant wage growth with 1-3.5% raises and pitiful bonuses, leaving us poorer year after year as we watch cost of living costs skyrocket; additional stipulations being put on employees to reduce rising through TSR levels; terrible health insurance that costs more out of pocket than any job I have worked in my life for the lowest high-deductible plan; and a worse 401k match and retirement plan than any other bank.

How are our fearless leaders doing? Well, in 2024 (public information disclosed by PNC filings)

William S. Demchak - 23.7 Million

Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Robert Q. Reilly - 6.8 Million

Exec. VP and Chief Financial Officer

E. William Parsley, III - 7.8 Million

Exec. VP and Chief Operating Officer

Deborah Guild, Exec. - 5.4 Million

VP and Head of Technology

Alexander E. C. Overstrom - 5.3 Million dollars

Exec. VP and Head of Retail Banking

As you can see, they are also struggling to get by.

The question is posed: What is there to be done? Do we just shore up our resumes and start applying elsewhere?

If that is an option for you and it leads to a better life, absolutely. But for those of us that can't nor want to give PNC the satisfaction of a successful soft layoff to compliment their acquisition of First Bank, there is a better way.

Unionization is the only way we will ever take back any control over how this org treats us. Complaints to management fall on deaf ears because at a certain level those complaints will always be drowned out by another multi-million dollar stock option. HR is there to protect the company, not you. They will not give a damn about your life situation or even doctor-recommended accommodation to continue your WFH lifestyle.

Management is getting scared; they are avidly searching for people interacting with this site or posting about the RTO policy online. While you should protect yourself, remind yourself that this fear stems from the effectiveness of unions and the bargaining power that can be gained from a collective.

Don't suffer alone. Don’t fade off quietly as you watch what you have claimed back for yourself and your loved ones be su-ked away by a pointless commute. You do not live to work for these people. You work to live your life. The conversations that have taken place online over the last 2 months have gotten the attention of union organizers for Better Banks.

Copied from an earlier post:

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Even for those that do not care about this mandate, I urge you to join your peers and take back the profit of your labor. You have nothing to lose but your chains.

Unionize now, solidarity forever.


Benefits Cut...to pay Hans

As an employee....My medical insurance is more expensive and my prescriptions dr-gs cost much more now in 2026....I am barely getting by now this.....I guess they had to figure out a way to pay Hans and the executives on the backs of the workers....the money has to come from somewhere....now I know why people say eat the rich....so unfair...the rich always get richer at the expense of the average person just trying to get by.


What to expect? Comp?

Citi is my first job at a large bank post-grad, so looking for some perspective.

When I joined in August, I didn’t get a sign-on bonus but was offered a “target award” to be paid in February as long as I’m still employed through the end of this month. Two weeks ago, Workday showed an amount under “Target Award”, but I checked today and it’s now blank. Merit Plan= 0.00% , DIRA left blank

My manager also said we’ll be talking about comp today or tomorrow.

Should I be worried about not getting the target award or about job security? Is there a normal reason the DIRA amount would disappear? Also, is this the right time to ask about a salary increase, or does that usually happen after a full year?

Any insight would be appreciated.


CEOs getting more ruthless

I mentioned in another topic how CEOs and the big stakeholders (the owners) are getting more and more ruthless. Nothing will ever make them happy.

Let's look at Citigroup's CEO and her recent internal memo. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/citigroup-ceo-jane-fraser-warns-181918727.html Just look at her tone and cold attitude.

Even though her company's stock is up year over year by a good amount, she is setting the tone for extreme goals, hard accountability, and another 10% cuts in jobs. BUT THEY WERE ALREADY PRODUCING RESULTS!!! But it wasn't enough. It's never enough. I guarantee you they skimped on their compensation numbers. I haven't checked out the citi page on this thelayoff website. I can only imagine.

Sound familiar. CEOs are going the opposite direction of leading with a carrot. It's ruthless, cold, harsh, sociopathic leadership. The owners are never happy. They need more and more growth on top of more and more growth. They own the federal govt, state govts, both parties including maga, and corporate boards and C-suites. The only politicians who are not part of this are called extreme by the billionaires. I suggest you look up how awesome Lena Kahn was. She went after companies during Biden years and boy of boy did they come after her. Look at the names of people who attacked her. At the end of the day, the owners are the enemy here.

You can bet that GK is going to follow her lead. And so will other banks.

I was just told to give my people who got meaningful or meets expectations who were at midpoint a 0% merit increase including hub people, not just remote. A zero. For meeting expectations.

This is the new normal. Slowly getting worse and worse like a frog in a large pot of water getting hotter and hotter. Fu-k this version of corporatism. Other than unions (you all got programmed to hate those), antitrust (break apart monopolies) and regulation (more and more of you are getting programmed to hate that too because it "hurts innovation"), what else can we do? We need a sustainable, healthy form of capitalism where the shareholders do not always get top priority.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.


Does anyone believe their division head has pushed for higher raises for the staff?

Does anyone believe their division head pushed RV and the executive committee to provide higher raises this year? No need to name the division head, just name the division. It will be interesting to see if anyone believes their division head pushed for higher raises.


No raise for you!

It was just announced that the Teradata ELT, in their infinite wisdom (or more accurately lack of wisdom), decided unanimously to forgo merit increases (salary adjustments) for employees this year so that that money can go to hire new AI-based experts. My guess is that this really means using the money to hire more VPs and SVPs and fund those salaries with raises that should go to existing employees. Never mind that everything keeps going up in cost, and Teradata insists on charging their customers CPI to keep up with inflation. It's pretty obvious that they don't care about your salary keeping up with inflation.


Bye Bye Bonus

Fresh off the presses: No scorecard this year, company-wide.

The board is about to approve the decision. That means no more numbers, which means they've effectively laid the groundwork for no more guaranteed bonus for all employees YOY.

This is effectively moving towards a distributed model, where you will be judged individually

  1. How much of your bonus will you get (already been happening last few years) and
  2. Now even if you will GET a bonus.

2026 off to a great start!


BNY Swag Box

Don’t forget to spend your measly little paycheck that doesn’t keep up with inflation on the all NEW BNY (no mellon) Swag vending machine located on floor 3 of Ross Street in PGH. Branded merchandise, whenever you need it :) I hope whoever came up with the idea loses their job, significant other, big toes and cat in the foreseeable future


VRP and 2025 Bonus

So, we need to confirm our participation in the VRP before 2025 bonus amounts are decided.

Seems to me that a manager would want to minimize bonus amounts for soon-to-retire employees and bolster those who will remain on.

Does anyone have any insight on how this is handled?


Are salaries heading down?

In the reorg last year every colleague that was not on the Standard pay scale had there job posted at a lower level. Essentially getting your same job back now has you maxed out on pay in the same Grade. Has there actually been any type of an overall pay scale increase besides the meager merit raises which have been taken away from most individuals?


Bonus 5% Mandatory Shares

For anyone not aware, it is mandatory that 5% of your bonus will be awarded in shares. Team members will only get told during their meeting. You get a minimum of 2 shares if you can't afford more.

Can anyone explain how this is calculated? E.g. if 5% of your bonus is taken for shares, but that is only enough for say 2.5 shares, how does it work? (What happens to the residual?)


Counteroffers for people thinking of leaving

I heard a rumor about someone in another department who was about to resign but then decided to stay. They mentioned getting a much better offer from the company to reconsider. Is that something that actually happens here at Exxon? I've never personally known anyone to get a retention offer like that, but I don't see why the guy would lie.