#longhours

Is this normal? Is it expected? I know it's not a lot, considering some folks work 60, 70, and longer hour weeks, but it's their choice. I feel like I'm required to work extra.

I recently got laid off from Atlassian. I was a SDE 2. I have about 5 years of exp in SW engineering and honestly I never thouht I'd be in this position... especially after having worked at Microsoft before this. I left a good team at Microsoft for more $$$ and now I'm sitting here unemployed for over a month wondering if I made the biggest mistake of my career. Not sure but it looks like it...

I was working at what I thought was a normal pace... doing my job, completing my work and expecting a performance rating of 3. Instead my manager pushed my rating down to a 1 and told me I wasn't being proactive enough. And the reason???? Apparently I wasn't working 10 hours a day like everyone else. Seriously... since when did putting in a normal workday become a performance problem????

What makes this soooo frustrating is that I left Microsoft where I was actually happy with my team and the work I was doing... all because I thought moving to Atlassian would be a better financial decision. More money, better opportunity... you know how it goes. Now I'm questioning that decision every single day. I guess sometimes the extra money just isn't worth it.

And now the job market is making things even worse. I've been unemployed for about a month and I'm honestly willing to take a paycut at this point... I have several EMIs and loans to pay, and I'm the ONLY earning person in my household. But smaller companies look at my previous CTC and tell me they can only offer HALF of what I was making... and some aren't even interested in interviewing me because of it. Meanwhile the larger companies aren't calling me for interviews either.

So basically I'm either too expensive for the smaller companies or not getting noticed by the bigger ones... despite having Microsoft and Atlassian on my resume. How does that even make sense????

I've also been dealing with some personal problems and depression, which makes this whole situation even harder. I'm preparing for interviews every day... studying, practicing, trying to improve my chances, but there's always that fear in the back of my mind. How long can I afford to be unemployed??? What happens if another month goes by... or three??? The loans aren't going anywhere and the bills certainly aren't stopping.

Sometimes I keep thinking maybe I should've worked harder at Atlassian... maybe I should've just done those 10 hour days like my manager wanted. But then I wonder whether that would've actually changed anything or just delayed the inevitable.

I know layoffs are happening everywhere but it's a very different feeling when you're the one without a paycheck and other people depend on your income... I wouldn't wish this uncertainty on anyone.

I'm curious whether other Atlassian employees have experienced something similar, particularly SDE 2 engineers. Are managers really expecting 10 hour workdays and giving low performance ratings to people who don't meet those expectations? Has anyone else been pushed from an expected 3 rating to a 1??? And for those who left Microsoft or another big tech company for more money... did you end up regretting it?

why I see workers in their offices staring at work computers, lights off from 8-5 (long hours) What are they working on? Anyone know?

Manager ask you for something by end of day? Get it done by end of HOUR.

Manager needs it by end of hour? It's already in his inbox, unread, marked urgent, sent from your phone while you were being wheeled into a routine outpatient procedure!

There are 24 hours in a day. Sleep is a SUBSCRIPTION and I've cancelled mine. You people act like you never pulled an all-nighter in college and took a final on three Red Bulls and a stranger's Adderall. That was PRACTICE. This is the exam!!!

Cisco routers run 24/7 with 99.999% uptime. Are you telling me a METAL BOX has better work ethic than us? Heck no!

Cisco hired you for a reason. WHO'S GONNA CARRY THE ROUTERS?! AND THE LOGS?

CISCO ON THREE!

One.

Two.

Get back to work.

“YoU wILL hAVE GOaLs by ThE sALEs mEeTInG”

All of you not looking for a job think about the fact that they could not give you a goal and then face you in person at the meeting. Cowards. That’s who you’re bending over backwards for working ridiculous hours with cr-ppy products - maybe making 25k in bonus after taxes. Salary commission and most importantly culture- are MUCH better other places.

I am a fool. I underestimated Dallas commute, Parking and the 8 hour requirement. What a mess. Door to door is 11 hours for 5 days a week. What the he-l? How are my fellow 50 year olds taking it?

You think you have it bad now?
Just wait until you are expected to be on call and available 24/7 under Musk.
Oh, yeah- he loves H1-bs, too.

I’m starting to wonder if a regular workweek exists here anymore. Why is everyone doing extra time and acting like that’s just part of the job now?

Until I read Mike's email

As someone who was bought into his new leadership until reading that it was very disappointing to see the disconnection from reality

Am already working 11-12 hour days 5 days a week without enough time to do everything as we are chronically understaffed and 90% of my time is spent dealing with issues that are a direct result of poor systems in place that have only ever been band aid fixed at best.

There is dead weight at fiserv who should be axed. But majority of people are hard working and doing the best they can with the systems available to them and until reading that email were quite energised at the thought of help being on the way.

Instead they were just told to do more work with no other changes apart from empty catch phrases.

So disappointing and upsetting to read.

This is the most insane place to work. The expectations of senior leadership is unrealistic, to put it mildly. I don’t know of anyone who isn’t working 75-80 hours in a workweek and then having to work more hours on the weekend to still be behind!

I have seen many people sacrifice their personal lives, mental health, and physical health for this company to only be rewarded with being fired or laid off.

They have no concept of people having a personal life. If you want to have a heart attack or stroke at your work computer then this is the place for you. If you value any kind of life or health, you need to stay far away from here.