Imperial Oil profits from Canada’s natural resources, while: Releasing emissions into our shared air, Firing Canadian workers, and Outsourcing jobs to India — all while Continuing to claim tax write-offs for foreign labour. This is... — read more
Object to Moving Soon or Forfeit Right to CD Claim
Google gemini helped me realize that if you are considering a constructive dismissal claim you likely want to consider working under protest within 10-15 days from the announcement. See below for more details. But if you don’t want to forfeit you... — read more
Severance Megathread
Severance estimates have been sent! 12y+, 70% of base salary. Working notice may be provided, nothing about RSUs.. What are your thoughts? Are you happy or disappointed? Will this impact your decision for the mobility survey?
IOL without XOM
ChatGPT Deep dive — Imperial Oil Ltd. (what it could’ve done if not constrained by majority stakeholder ExxonMobil) Insights • Peers (Shell, Suncor, Dow, Neste, Valero, global traders) show the pathway Imperial could have taken. • Imperial stayed... — read more
Severance amount
Starting this thread to compare severance amount. Affected employees supposed to start receiving estimate today. Severance estimate/year of service/current salary.
Lawyer
Anyone have an employment lawyer contact in Calgary who is not on retainer with IOL? Maybe we need to go outside Calgary? If you are a person who would like to leverage the guidance please respond.
Their plan
Imperial and the government are running the scam of the century. Lay off 1,000 people → claim it’s a “lack of projects” → pull in more contracts from the government → hand the work off to India. IOL’s lobbying team nailed it. Smith and the media are... — read more
Edmonton
So it seems that the majority of folks are planning to fake mobility to see what they are offered, even if they have no intent to move. Is this the play? If I declare immediately I am not mobile, and seek immediate severance, will I be severed... — read more
Everything feels like mass attrition
Every option on the table seems designed to make you quit, get you fired, or push you out in a layoff. Not even relocation looks like a saving grace if you manage to survive the cuts. It’s clear they just want to get rid of us and offshore everything... — read more
WFH arrangements - NOT!
It was asked if Imperial would consider work from home arrangements for those who are not able to relocate. The answer was a resounding NO - as the Company values collaboration which is most effectively achieved through face-to-face interaction... — read more
Porting 1 job = 1 person on social support
In Canada want to allow companies like Imperial Oil to port jobs to BTC and KLTC, then Canada needs to provide social safety net that will help us maintain our lifestyle. So, basically, I am saying Canada needs to tax companies that are porting... — read more
What a shame...
...it would be if some competitor comes to sn---h folks away from Imperial before they've had a chance to transition the work.
Total Compensation
Wonder if severance packages will have considerations against "total compensation". Thats what we've been told for years as why we are paid less overall. Wonder if there is some legal angle that leverages this.
BTC expats in Canada
Houston, Permian and gulf coast plants are being overrun by Indian expats. Does Canada have this same problem or are Canadian laws preventing it?
Real news - offshoring of jobs
Nothing more ridiculous than politicians using Imperial’s announcement as a distraction to blame each other for policies or tie Carney to Brookfield. No the campus is not being sold to Brookfield. It’s a local firm. Make sure they redirect back to... — read more
Relocations choice flow chart - beware
I’m sure everyone has seen the flow chart, no by the end of Oct and you get severance. Yes…if you don’t make the get, you get severed and get the same severance. Get offered a position and decline, you get severed and get the same severance. So it... — read more
The “advocacy office” is just the C-Suite
“Edmonton for thee ; not for me” . Has anyone asked the MC directly if they are moving ? It would be very awkward if someone did . Just sayin’. Whelan never left Calgary during his Houston grooming assignment either .
Considering the move BUT…
I’m considering accepting the move to Edmonton. My spouse doesn’t work, I don’t have family ties to Calgary, and my kids are young enough (with another on the way). I have enough savings to last me a few years, so the main issues I’m juggling in my... — read more
One user predicted... LOL
LOL: One user in a thread on thelayoff.com predicted how the company’s assets would be shifted around. His first prediction was that Calgary Quarry Park HQ would be sold to Brookfield. -... — read more
STOP & THINK - You will be okay!
The walls are crashing down around you. The future of a stable, well paying job, in a great city, is over. The vision of a lucrative nest egg is challenged. Your sense of identity and worth is compromised. Your doubts are setting in. But... — read more
CL $12/Bbl and Kearl $16/Bbl
Remember when they told us that if we help "them" get to $12 and $16 respectively at CL and Kearl all will be good and we will all be safe.....yeeeeeeeeahhh
PIP OR Layoffs… NEVER BOTH
I joined this fkn company cuz of the defined benefit of plan because in my mind it used to offset the PIP/PDS bullsh-t we have to do every year. Well Atleast they don’t do layoffs right ? I mean even tho the PDS system can be biased it can never be... — read more
Bitcoin gamble it all
So desperate I just may
More jobs and hiring in India!
Take a look at the job postings in India to understand who they will be firing! Pretty classy to keep posting about jobs and hiring in India the same time you are firing and doing mass layoffs of the long time employees who built the... — read more
Province’s Reaction
It’s so infuriating to read in the news how the Provincial government tries to tie the layoffs to the feds, focusing solely on the pipeline or some perceived “red tape.” I’m with IRP, and there was no shortage of projects (less so now, no one knows... — read more
What happens to RSUs?
They are hard earned for the ones that received them. It’s not much for non execs but enough to care about them. What happens to RDUs if: You decline mobility Accept mobility but not selected for job Accept mobility, receive bit decline... — read more
The hardest part about layoffs is not knowing whose turn it is
People are nervous and watching their backs, so now there’s this constant tension where nobody feels secure enough to plan their future here. It’s a huge mistake, and it’s going to cost this place way more in the long run than anyone at the top... — read more
Selling Kearl Before DB Pension Curve
Step 1: Slash MPT using the "ranking" system Step 2: Close QP and layoff hundred Step 3: Sell Kearl to Suncor Goal: Shed pension risk based on the demographic curve before the majority vests. NOTE: We are on Step 2 this week.
I’m actually terrified of what’s coming
There, I said it. I’m 55, still in debt, with a family and aging parents. We should all be able to live decent lives, yet we’re under constant pressure just to cover basic survival. And it can all be gone in a second. After nearly 30 years of hard... — read more
Survey
What are your thoughts? It feels like an exercise to see who would be willing to support after they've outsourced almost everything. Take the few that are willing (or if there are extras, the top picks in their mind) and distribute them into the... — read more
What are the best alternatives?
Where is everyone applying? I know most people are already looking, since no one’s crazy enough to just wait and see if their number comes up, but the listings I see are honestly discouraging. There are so few openings compared to how many of us will... — read more
Resistance Begins Here — Stand Against Imperial’s Job Offshoring
Friends, Imperial Oil is offshoring thousands of Calgary jobs while taking advantage of Alberta’s resources, tax breaks, and our province’s livelihood. We can’t let this go unchallenged. Here’s what you can do today: 1. Write to your MLA and MP... — read more
imperial sale
If you people don't think they are whittling the company down to make it look amazing on a balance sheet for an eventual sale, you're going to be blindsided when it happens. Don't trust them or what they say. Keep your bills low and your lifestyle in... — read more
Stock price down today more than peers
Market may not have liked the news, and ambiguous and misleading press release. Are employees protest selling?
New information
What's the new information from today? Dept numbers etc?
Exxon Forgets Who OWNS the Oil Sands
The People of Alberta own the Oil Sands. No one is going Edmonton ! Provincial Legislation will be passed within the year to prohibit Outsourcing of jobs that are related to the Oil Sands Industry. So not only will the large majority of the 900 jobs... — read more
Will people really move to Edmonton for a job?
For those who survive the cuts, it feels insane to uproot your whole family for a job that might disappear a year later. I know some won’t have much of a choice, but the costs, both financial and personal, are huge, and the payoff in the long run... — read more
Expats on Canadian Payroll
Does it bother you that you are not receiving the same pay as your EM counterparts? We're making it way too easy for Exxon to take advantage of Canadians
This is what you get
This is what you get when we could have unionized the entire company under one flag and held them by the short and curlys. Instead you all trusted a corporation to have your best interests at heart. Life lesson for you all.