#rto

I've been hearing some buzz about a potential change in policy at one of our Colorado offices. From what I've gathered, contractors are being given the green light to work permanently from home, while full-time employees (FTEs) are being asked to come back to the office.

I'm curious if anyone else has heard about this or has more details. It's got me wondering a few things:

Is this actually happening, and is it just in Colorado or across the whole company?

What does this mean for contractors in the long run? Are they going to be phased out or kept on indefinitely because of this work-from-home flexibility or forced to move out to other offices?

For FTEs, what are the implications, especially for those on visas like H-1B or L-1? How does this affect immigration compliance, and are there risks of layoffs, relocations, or forced conversions to contractor status?

If anyone has any insights or personal experiences, especially those in Colorado or who have been through something similar, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

After they started making threat, i cleared all my calls pre 9am calls so i could BE in the office 8 hours min. They want 9 to 5 in the office, that's what they get. I suggest all do the same.

Ford is all talk and no action. Those engineers that have been working from home in Michigan are still working from home. I don't see them at the office or the plants that I am working everyday. Ford should track their badge, when they swipe in and when they swipe out. Ford needs to terminate those that are no in compliance with the company policy. Follow the good example from Elon Musk, it works. Everyone are back to the office 5 days per week at Tesla.

Posted this here only because the same silly discussions are happening at Humana....
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https://unionrayo.com/en/ford-email-threat-employees-remote-work/
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Goodbye to remote work—Ford imposes strict policy and warns of layoffs for noncompliance
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I predict that I’ll be terminated for cause. With decades of service, numerous awards and accolades, the company will use that to not pay my severance of six figures. All because I didn’t spend eight hours a day three days a week being a desk jockey in a cube farm.
I spent decades trying to perform exceptional service every single time. Focus used to be on getting the job and the projects completed.
This new form of micromanagement is challenging to navigate with so many new detailed company policies to observe.
I really used to like this company. My 9 to 5 was actually 5 to 9 as I found my work extremely gratifying.
So, if I don’t have any severance paperwork to sign with the disparagement clause, then hello social media, my new friends. I’ll be happy to tell the world about the inner workings I’ve seen over the past several decades. Stephen King, I might have a new horror story for you.

I came to the office at 228 a little late, this morning. It was about 9:30. I parked in my usual area - which wasn’t difficult since the lot was about 1/4 the number of cars as Mon through Wed.

I walked through quiet dim passage areas, going by conference rooms of various capacity, all boasting of being free all day. Then past the large collaboration area that only seems to have people collaborating for bagels every other Tuesday and occasional pizza.

So, “where is everybody? What happened to the mandatory RTO five days a week.

Corporate risk here. Got email from mangers , saying DF has directed managers must document their directs not meeting 8 hour requirement or 3 days (soon to be 4 days) in workday and have the employee sign it.

Now, wait for the shocker: any manager who fails to document it will be given “not meet” in performance rating.
Note : manager will be given “not meet”

Also, employee who has signed the first warning and continue to be non-compliant will be terminated.

I was one of those given the initial verbal warning few weeks ago.

I've been RTOing for a while now, and it still feels pointless most days. My work gets done the same as when I'm home, just with more noise and random chatter I don't care about. The constant interruptions make it hard to focus, and the commute eats up hours I’ll never get back. And for what? I still can't figure that one out.

FYI coming soon

https://www.pocketgamer.biz/over-400-blizzard-employees-have-voted-to-unionise-under-the-communications-workers-of-america/

How are they accurately measuring these? My coworker runs outside 6 times a day so does each time he badges in count towards his 12 day a month requirement? Does reporting show like 40 badge swipes?

Please be nice to the person you are working with! We want to help you! We have been given a directive that we are expected to follow. We are doing our best but volumes are high due to the new 8 hour requirement. Thank you.

RTO is just one of them. I hate this company and my job. If there were any real opportunities out there right now, I’d be out the door in a second. As things stand, we’re all just at the mercy of swelling corporate greed.

3 days per week, working 8 continuous hours a day. I heard it. Did you?

I have been coffee badging ever since RTO started and I have never heard anything from my manager about time spent in the office. I am the sole person on my team at my location so I never see anyone I know when I go in. So I typically take a few calls at the office in the morning then head home to finish up.

Reading all the posts here about managers cracking down about number of hours in office makes me curious if I’m the only one who hasn’t had any related time tracking guidance yet? I don’t see myself changing up my in-office routine unless I hear something from my manager directly.

Look what’s happening in tech - irrelevant stats being used to stack rank people because the people in charge don’t have actual strategic ideas. Measuring keystrokes and then showing “improvement “. Lol. Butts in seats. If you don’t trust your managers to manage and your strategy to measure what matters you have more problems than coffee badging. All the mistakes people made at their old banks are coming here.

• Silent and regular layoffs! Fired and rehired new employees for less for the holidays.
• Took a peculiar dump on the principle of Customer Obsession.
• Mandated RTO with apparently no planning.
• Pushed gross profit to AI data centers.
• Violated rights of disabled workers.
• Dismissed Microsoft and Google AI as ‘hype cycle’
• Forced people to uproot their lives, relocate.
• Gave $8B treat to Anthropic.
• Took cumulative compensation of $500 million.

Any for non compliance?

Has anyone heard for sure if exempt (professional and managers) are part of the 8 hour RTO requirement? It’s odd that exempts are not paid for working a specific number of hours, yet they’re requiring it by proxy through this RTO policy. I see that becoming a labor issue.

You folks need to go like Stankey said, plenty of hybrid and virtual. They say a hub but San Ramon is what, what about Missouri, etc and why are AVPs not all in Dallas that was the big press that went under the carpet to which they are not even in hubs, why how did they get the pass card. The company is going to the 1980’s punch card style basically and they don’t care. This SBC style outsource and project managers is underway., you do know ATT was basically bankrupt and SBC bought the name. FACT!! The glory and fixing some locations is a fools game otherwise they know folks would leave in bunches, so out with old and in with book smart maybe that. They hire someone that’s says they have a bachelor degree from a third world country that’s behind armed guards but it’s an accredited school but not USA credited since cost is cheap and so are getting degrees by sliding some local currency to the professors. What has happened to your company and who is really running it since most leadership are less than 6 years from other companies so they left or booted out

Have you heard any locations or organizations that are only required to come in 1 or 2 days a week? Shout them out so those of us that are required to do 3 can look for job openings.

To be announced to certain groups on Friday.

Constantly new changes, every few weeks there’s another round of layoffs, now this RTO cr-p... You start to wonder if it’ll ever stop. Most of us are exhausted and anxious, and are just waiting for the next announcement. That can't be good for productivity, not at all.

Just got out of a meeting with a couple members of leadership. Announcement to come towards the end of October.

It's disrespectful to both the remote workers and those of us who need the desk space. Remote is remote, we allocate and budget the space for a reason ffs.

Hard to stay engaged with so many changes looming.

random team meeting scheduled for next week, no context given. curious if anyone has heard rumors

Are we ready to call RTO a failure and change course? Or do we need to see new lows for the year first?

Sell all the real estate and make wall st happy

The chatter is escalating. Is there actually something to it, or is it just based on reasonable expectations?

I appreciate people sharing what they’ve heard but this is all so vague I’m really struggling to understand how valid this is. Is it RTO for remote? Is it layoffs like in 2015? Has anyone actually been told anything or is this just phone tag at its worst.

Some questions about NewTown Square

Do colleagues still go into the office?
What is the vibe/scene like?
Are customer events still taking place?

Is Cafeteria still very good?

I haven't been there since leaving in 2019 and was curious about the campus.
Always remembered very friendly front desk staff and security guards

Wishing everyone the best

To get people to quit at first, then fire the rest that don’t follow the rules.

Took a new role in CSO based in Charlotte. Anyone here work in CSO? How is that part of the org? Anyone in Charlotte? My understanding is it’s a CSO hub (or rather is becoming one). I understand lots of things are changing, and there’s a lot of frustration around RTO but other than that trying to get a feel for the CSO area.

I haven’t. And God knows what that means. Judging from the rumors, relocation offers seem to be just an easy, cost-free way to push people out in most cases. I mean, who would uproot their life for a job when job security is practically an ancient concept? I really hope this gets clarified soon. Honestly, I’d rather face losing the job than deal with this confusion and anxiety dragging on.

That’s all.

Seems like that’s the plan

https://fortune.com/2025/10/09/in-office-mandates-new-hires-employers-are-sneaking-in-a-hybrid-creep-after-your-offer-letter/?utm_content=socialShare_null&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=social_share