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Re the Laid off for H1B employee tradeoff

This is for folks who lost their jobs to a cheaper, younger drone in Frisco with an H1-B visa.

President Trump just signed a new executive order today regarding the timing of layoffs and H-1B visa hiring. Federal agencies are now directed to consider whether an H-1B sponsoring employer laid off similarly situated American workers during the previous year or plans to lay them off in the future.

Also...

The Labor Department has 30 DAYS to begin reviewing previously submitted H-1B Labor Condition Applications to determine whether action against sponsoring employers is warranted.

Think about the implications.

A company lays off thousands of American workers. Then turns around and says it needs H-1B workers. The government is now explicitly being told LOOK AT THE companies layoff patterns. This is exactly the question companies should have been forced to answer all along. I hate to say it, but this is a good and welcome decision from the President. I hope it doesn't get ki-led by injunctions from judges. (Who will NEVER lose their job to cheap foreign labor willing to relocate from some 3rd world shirthole to Frisco, Texas because it's a step up.


If you hope you'll find another job at Citi

I have bad news for you. Hundreds of job postings we have are typically either intended to transition a contractor/H1B to an FTE role... Also they use them to pick someone who has already been selected. So, in most cases (not all cases), the posting are just a formality. I know you know this, it's here for newbies.


Humana - on Firm Ground or Sinking Sand?

I logically guesstimate that at least 30% of Humana’s profit margin today relies on cheaper non-citizen labor (e.g., H-1B Visas, Vendor Contracts that use H-1B Visas, Offshoring) and the hype to investors as to what AI (artificial intelligence) will bring about in the near future.

All it would take is for just two things to occur, perhaps coupled with one or two other coinciding events, to seriously ruin this corporation.

1) If H-1B Visas were to be sent packing and Vendors (heavily employed H-1B Visas) that Humana contracts with were to be highly scrutinized by federal government and brought to a halt.
2) AI (artificial intelligence) to be heavily regulated by the government and brought to a snail’s pace.

Executive leadership most likely will not admit it to you nor will SVPs, VPs, Directors, and Associate Directors as they have to “toe the line” and keep up the facade that “we are some big super power that nothing can stand in our way!” Pride goes before the Fall! Just a matter of time.


Here is summary of the dataset, I've prepped the data - Gippty did the summary:


With Oracle continuing to cut jobs in the U.S., I pulled the FY2026 Oracle America, Inc. H-1B Labor Condition Application data from H1BHQ to see what the public records actually show.

The dataset contains 465 Oracle America records:

  • 455 Certified
  • 4 Certified - Withdrawn
  • 5 Withdrawn
  • 1 Denied

So 455 of the 465 records, or 98%, currently have a simple "Certified" status.

Important: an LCA is not the same thing as an H-1B worker being hired or brought into the country. It is an employer filing with the Department of Labor that normally occurs before the H-1B petition process with USCIS. These numbers should therefore be described as filings or LCA records, not 465 imported workers.

## What jobs is Oracle filing for?

The concentration in software and technical jobs is striking.

Job title Certified records Share
Software Developer 184 40%
Technical Analyst 35 8%
Applications Developer 24 5%
Site Reliability Developer 19 4%
Program Manager-ProdDev 13 3%
Product Manager/Strategy-ProdDev 12 3%
Software Development Snr Manager 12 3%
Data Scientist 11 2%
Network Developer 11 2%
Applied Scientist 10 2%

Software Developer alone represents 184 of the 455 certified records, or 40%.

If I broaden the search to titles containing either "Developer" or "Software Development," there are 273 certified records - exactly 60% of the total.

This is not primarily a dataset of executives or extremely unusual occupations. A large majority is concentrated in software development and related technical roles.

## What do the salaries look like?

Among the 455 certified records:

  • Median salary low: $142,314
  • Median salary high: about $183,930

There are 442 records containing both a low and high salary. Using the midpoint of those ranges strictly as an analytical measure:

  • Median midpoint: $165,720
  • 72% have a midpoint of $150,000 or more
  • 42% have a midpoint of $175,000 or more
  • 20% have a midpoint of $200,000 or more
  • 5% have a midpoint of $250,000 or more

For Software Developer specifically, the median midpoint is approximately $158,000.

The midpoint is a calculated analytical measure and should not be confused with the actual salary eventually paid to an individual employee.

## Where are the filings?

Texas and California dominate Oracle's certified records.

State Certified records Share
Texas 117 26%
California 85 19%
Washington 23 5%
Georgia 22 5%
Tennessee 21 5%
Florida 19 4%
Colorado 16 4%
North Carolina 16 4%
Massachusetts 15 3%
Illinois 13 3%

Texas and California together account for 202 of the 455 certified records, or 44%.

The leading individual locations are:

  • Austin: 32
  • Redwood Shores: 30
  • Santa Clara: 20
  • Seattle: 19
  • Nashville: 17
  • Pleasanton: 16
  • Burlington: 14
  • McKinney: 14

## Now compare that with the layoffs

Oracle filed WARN notices for layoffs effective June 1, 2026 affecting 1,668 workers across Santa Clara, Redwood City, Santa Monica, Pleasanton, and Seattle/Remote.

The H-1B dataset contains certified records in all five corresponding areas:

Layoff location/area Certified LCA records
Redwood Shores / Redwood City 30
Santa Clara 20
Seattle 19
Pleasanton 16
Santa Monica 3
Total 88

That means 88 of Oracle's 455 certified LCA records, or 19%, are associated with five areas that also appear in Oracle's major 2026 WARN layoffs.

Of those 88 records, 28 are specifically titled Software Developer.

Redwood City/Redwood Shores is particularly interesting.

Oracle's WARN notice identified 310 layoffs in Redwood City effective June 1. Local reporting on the WARN filing found that more than half of the affected Redwood City positions were software developers or software development management.

Meanwhile, this H-1B dataset contains 30 certified records for Redwood Shores. Fifteen of the 30 have "Developer" or "Software Development" in the job title.

Again, that does not establish that those H-1B positions replaced the laid-off employees. But the occupational and geographic overlap is worth examining.

## Another pattern worth noting

There are 31 certified Software Developer records in the Dallas-area suburbs carrying the exact same salary range of $134,971 to $181,112.

Those records are spread across places including McKinney, Frisco, Farmers Branch, Celina, Dallas, Prosper, Allen, Aubrey, Carrollton, Lewisville, The Colony and nearby communities.

So these records are not simply a few isolated Silicon Valley cases. Oracle's LCA activity is geographically dispersed, with particularly heavy concentration in Texas.

## What the data shows - and what it doesn't

The data does show:

  • 465 Oracle America FY2026 LCA records in the dataset
  • 455 with Certified status
  • 98% of all records have a simple Certified status
  • Heavy concentration in software development
  • 184 Software Developer records alone
  • 40% of certified records are specifically Software Developer
  • 60% involve "Developer" or "Software Development" titles
  • 72% of records with complete salary ranges have calculated midpoints of at least $150,000
  • 20% have calculated midpoints of at least $200,000
  • Texas and California account for 44% of certified records
  • 19% of certified records are associated with five areas that also appear in Oracle's major 2026 WARN layoffs
  • Software-development overlap exists in Redwood City/Redwood Shores

The data does NOT prove:

  • That 465 foreign workers were brought into the United States
  • That each LCA represents one worker
  • That every certified LCA resulted in an approved H-1B petition
  • That every H-1B worker came from offshore
  • That an H-1B employee directly replaced a particular laid-off U.S. employee
  • That the salary midpoint represents what an employee was actually paid

Those distinctions matter.

But there is still a legitimate question here.

When a company is simultaneously eliminating U.S. jobs while maintaining substantial H-1B filing activity in many of the same technical occupations and geographic markets, employees have every reason to ask how the two fit together.

The public data cannot answer that final question by itself.

It can tell us where to start looking.

## Sources and methodology

  • Oracle America, Inc. FY2026 LCA data obtained through H1BHQ
  • U.S. Department of Labor H-1B/LCA disclosure data and guidance
  • Public WARN records
  • California and Washington WARN data
  • Public reporting on Oracle's 2026 layoffs

Note: Percentages and other calculated decimal values in this analysis have been rounded to the nearest whole number. Salary dollar amounts are shown to the nearest dollar or, where explicitly stated as approximate, to the nearest thousand dollars. Salary midpoint figures are calculated from the low and high values in the source data and do not represent actual employee compensation.

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2026 Oracle H1B Numbers

OK, here is the skinny from h1bhq.com -

465 LCA filings, 455 w/CERTIFIED status (done deal), 40% classified specifically as "Software Developer", 60% with "Developer" or "Software Development" in the title, median reported salary range around $142K to $184K.... 20% of certified records in 5 areas that show in Oracle's 2026 WARN layoff records (reported to the state).

I'll post source details in a reply to this post...

All data is open source and it's coming from:
https://h1bhq.com/search?employerSlug=ORACLE-america-inc&fiscalYear=2026


CNC - EEOC violation? Cognizant contract

The EEOC has actively started cracking down on companies for using staffing agencies like Cognizant to replace American workers with low cost foreign visa workers. CNC announced a billion dollar deal with Cognizant a little over a month before the massive layoffs (and Cognizant is already under investigation by dept of labor for H1b and PERM fraud).

It might be a good time to send in EEOC complaints if you lost your position right after the Cognizant contract announcement (which was in the news in July). In the past EEOC has not done much but they're pushing hard for reports/tips right now AND there's a few lawyers in their comments section trying to dig into fortune 500 company violations

https://x.com/USEEOC/status/2099494113666027777


New hire in tech

Is there a chance of me being impacted by any layoffs? I’ve been on the team a little over two months and it took me forever to get in. I do feel that there is a lot of redundancy within my team and more folks from vendors being brought in on H1B, and already having a team in India.

I’m assuming I’d be sc--wed on any severance?


FYI - DHS proposing $103,265 fee for many new H-1B petitions

Bloomberg Law is reporting that DHS is proposing a new $103,265 fee for cap-subject H-1B petitions, including petitions involving workers who are already in the United States.

This is separate from the earlier $100,000 H-1B entry fee that applied primarily to workers being brought into the country. That fee was struck down by a federal judge and is currently being appealed.

A few key points:

  • The proposed fee would apply to H-1B petitions subject to the annual cap.
  • That includes the regular 65,000 H-1B slots and the additional 20,000 advanced-degree slots.
  • Universities, hospitals and certain research institutions would be exempt under the new proposal.
  • The $103,265 would be in addition to other H-1B filing costs.
  • DHS estimates the fee could generate approximately $8.8 billion per year.
  • The US Chamber of Commerce says the fee could make H-1B hiring cost-prohibitive for many startups and small and midsize employers.

For employers that hire significant numbers of H-1B workers, this could materially change the economics of hiring. A company hiring 10 cap-subject H-1B employees could potentially face more than $1 million in these fees alone.

This is currently a proposed rule, not a fee that has already taken effect. The Bloomberg Law report is dated August 24, 2026.

Something to watch, especially at companies that rely heavily on H-1B hiring.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/new-100-000-h-1b-fee-planned-for-foreign-workers-already-in-us


Backend area or the East india group

Backend mainframe area. the area that ED was holding off for years. Few H1Bs under him. Says yes to all and work like they are still in British india. Hides all the truth and makes him happy. Comes out of the call the dash out to offshore and their directs. All this because they are visa slaves.

Now the new guy came in and its shaking the whole caucus. ED is loosing the grip . JO and his nepotism hires are not safe. PMO group stacked with all high grades and does barely minimum. Oh the guy became VP in no time just because of nepotism and can barely understand what he speaks out.


H-1B Visa Rule Change to Remove 60 Day Grace Period

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U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) are preparing to propose a rule that would eliminate an existing grace period for visa holders who can't find a job, according to an unpublished document posted to the Federal Register.

Under current immigration laws, holders of certain visas, particularly H-1B visas, which are non-immigration visas that allow employers to sponsor skilled workers with Bachelor's degrees or higher, get a 60-day grace period to find a new job if they lose the employment tied to their visa.
The new rule proposal would eliminate that grace period, according to the document.

"This proposal restores a direct relationship between an alien’s nonimmigrant status and the specific employment or activity that formed the basis of his or her admission or grant of status in the United States and reduces administrative burden," the document reads.

A noncitizen would have to immediately leave the U.S. if no longer working for an employer linked to a visa status if the rule were to be implemented.
“

Source for the above:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-admin-proposes-ending-60-day-grace-period-job-loss-h-1b-visa-holders


Some Salary Data & H1B Hiring @ Fiserv

Link for full data set is below. I am listing 2026 only, there is more data here, you can filter on year, I think there is 800 visas issued.

# Fiserv Solutions, LLC — FY2026 H1B/LCA Salary Summary

  • 146 total LCA (H1B) records, all reporting annual wages.
  • Salary range: $80,496 to $600,000.
  • Average starting/base wage: approximately $137,297.
  • The average is calculated using the lower end of the offered salary range, not the midpoint or total compensation.
  • Positions include software engineering, data analytics, QA, product management, and engineering management.
  • Major locations include Berkeley Heights, NJ; Sunnyvale, CA; Alpharetta, GA; Longmont, CO; Redmond, WA; Hagerstown, MD; and Fishers, IN.

## Example Salary Ranges

  • Data Analyst: $128K–$166K
  • Senior Software Engineer: $173K–$210K
  • Staff Engineer: $190K–$216K
  • Sr. Manager Engineering: $226K–$244K

Fiserv's FY2026 LCA data shows many experienced technology positions in roughly the $130K–$210K range, with higher-level engineering and management positions exceeding $200K. The overall average lower-bound salary is about $137K.

https://h1bhq.com/search?employerSlug=FISERV-solutions-llc


I think it’s time we tell the truth.

I think it’s time we tell the truth.

When I joined the workforce in 2002, many of my engineering leads and managers were working from the US, while I was working from Bangalore.

One thing I noticed very early was the difference in work culture.

Indians are, by nature, extremely work-oriented. We don’t like leaving things unfinished. I remember hearing complaints from Indian colleagues about our US counterparts: “These people are privileged. They shut their computers at exactly 4:30 PM.”

Even during a major P1 production issue, you could sometimes see the US team log off when their working hours were over. Meanwhile, the people still in the office were predominantly Indians—working until 10 or 11 PM, handing things over to the offshore team, and then finally going home to their families.

It was a complaint. But, in a strange way, it was also an appreciation of our own work ethic.

Yes, many people in the US have historically enjoyed a level of work-life balance that many Indians did not. They could shut their laptops at 4:30 PM and walk away. We often felt that we couldn't.

But our mentality was different:

“We are getting paid. We have a responsibility. We need to solve the problem. We don't want the company to get a bad name.”

And then we went home.

Our families mattered enormously to us. But we also believed that our ability to provide for our families came from having a job in the first place. We were grateful for that opportunity, and we took that responsibility seriously.

That mentality helped many of us build careers across companies and industries.

We weren't slaves to anyone. We were people who understood the value of an opportunity—and were willing to work extraordinarily hard to make the most of it.

And here is where I think the H-1B debate gets uncomfortable.

For years, everyone benefited from this system.

You valued your freedom.
You valued your work-life balance.
You valued your paycheck.
And we valued our families too.

But for many of us, loving our families meant something different.

We were willing to live thousands of miles away from them, work long hours, sacrifice weekends, and endure years of uncertainty because the ultimate goal was simple:

Make sure our families are taken care of.

That's the difference.

So before blaming Indians or H-1B workers for being willing to work hard, perhaps we should acknowledge the other side of the story.

People didn't come here because they wanted to take something away from someone else.

Many came because they were willing to make sacrifices that others simply weren't willing to make.

And that work ethic didn't suddenly become a problem when the people doing it happened to be Indian.


H1B Visa Holders Will be the downfall of Fiserv

Fiserv preaches that they want collaborative work environments and people working together efficiently. That will never be the case when you have H1B visa holders that don't want to train anyone, don't want to knowledge share and hoard work so they can scream how busy they are but won't let any one help them. Leadership should be terminated for allowing this. I know personally directors that know they don't do a check to see if a US citizen can do the job before a visa holder. I think anyone reading this we should all go and report this to the government. This is why this company will fail. It won't stop here, what Fiserv will find themselves with is cr-ppy software and only visa holders there to fix it and they still won't make profit. It's what they deserve. And for you H1B visa holders that do work this way and I know a lot of them, I hope the layoff reaches you so you can go back where you come from and practice your non collaboration in your own country and see how far you get. Allowing these H1B visa holders to speak their language on premise should not be allowed. We live in America why do they get to communicate with each other in their language because they don't want Americans to hear what they have to say especially if it's about knowledge share which they only do with one another. In todays layoffs I would have expected a lot of non citizens to get laid off but nah majority Americans - this company will fail. A lot of Americans had been there for 15 + years, but that doesn't matter to Fiserv. Very Un-American!


Firing Americans

This is not the Bank of America. This should be renamed as the Bank of India. Oops, the name is already taken.
H1B fraud, H4 EAD hiring, OPT, EAD, Greencard friends and family, BUT NO Americans.
Every manager and HR should be investigated. They take kickbacks in different forms.
The offices in Texas, New York are filled with a bunch of fraudsters, TCS and Wipro employees.
This is not acceptable.
Report to the government. Stop the fraudsters.


US Dept of Labor Suspends PERM filings from Congizant due to H1B Fraud.

On September 8, 2026, DOL Inspector General Anthony D'Esposito announced the suspension of permanent labor certification (PERM) filings for IT services giant Cognizant, as well as software firm Cloudera. The enforcement action is part of an ongoing federal crackdown on alleged visa fraud, wage kickbacks, and worker exploitation involving H-1B and PERM employment-based immigration programs.

" The investigation is being conducted alongside the White House Fraud Task Force. While the restriction prevents new filings, the government is also reviewing previously approved PERMs across IT consulting, staffing, and third-party placement agencies. ""

This suspension program may extend to other big employers as well.


Cognizant

A few months ago there was a report that Centene was partnering with Cognizant for AI tech enabled processes. This partnership would bring about $5 billion in revenue to Cognizant, while saving Centene a ton of money by not having staff. I started doing some research on this company and was shocked at how many times they have been sued by their own employees in the last 5 years. It seems like this company wants all of the US work it can get but refuses to have US employees, and if they do have them, they discriminate until they are sued. Today, this article came out regarding Cognizant's PERM filings are suspending pending a fraud investigation regarding HB1 Visa's and other PERM filings. This investigation based on Whistleblower complaints. Centene laid off thousands of American's to partner with a company who allegedly treats their American staff like cr-p??? Is that why Cognizant works so hard to make their Indian born staff become US Citizens, so then they can legally say they had US staff? I am all for equality and work with some amazing people from many diverse backgrounds, but it seems like Centene wants to replace their staff with AI and a vendor who prefers to hire non American's ....allegedly!!!! Very sad ☹️


Cognizant investigation

We all know FIS is moving some U.S. employees to Cognizant rather than directly laying them off, with those employees becoming Cognizant employees and continuing to perform work previously done for FIS. This is significant because Cognizant is currently under federal scrutiny involving H-1B visas and the potential displacement of American workers. There is currently no public evidence that FIS itself has been named as a target of that investigation. However, if U.S. employees are transferred to Cognizant and their jobs are subsequently performed by lower-cost foreign workers, that arrangement could potentially attract the attention of federal investigators. Outsourcing itself is not illegal; the key issue is whether the arrangement involves violations of H-1B or other worker-protection laws.


Open letter to Takis

Dear Takis,

Many hardworking knowledgeable employees have quit due to remote work options. Some of the “special” people are allowed to work remote and move all over the country. So much for one Fiserv. The rest of the knowledge base is being laid off. Why don’t you remove some of the layers of VPs instead?
You are replacing qualified Americans with lower cost H1Bs. We are getting what you paid for… no knowledge garbage.

Please clean up the mess and make Fiserv great again.

Sincerely,

Your humble fiservants


Third party

With all these new H1b rule changes and restrictions I haven’t seen a single one leave yet, their contracts just keep extending for years on though there is a supposed moratorium on contract durations. What’s the hack?


CANCEL cards and accounts

If you honestly think Citi is running a rigged scam by prioritizing H1B/H4/L1/OPT etc. visa holders over US citizens, then cancel all your Citibank accounts and credit cards right now! Sell the stock and cash out all your money.

There is absolutely zero reason to do business with corporate garbage that actively dumps its own citizens.

They may fire hundreds of people in the next few weeks. Citi HR is a scam. Please expose every manager, recruiter who fraudulently hire people and fire hard working Americans.


If you are in H1b start your search early

If you are in H1b, start your search early as 60 days grace period is questionable and we are almost year end. The hiring might get stopped due to Holidays.
Choose your tenure wisely in this sinking ship.
Oracle might get better in next few years and you can join back. Its not wise to stay anymore with such low pay, more politics and insecure positions.


Serious Problem with Management and the AI Shift

We have a serious problem, and it is hurting American society. My Indian manager’s manager is sitting in India, and there is a lack of work ethics throughout the management chain. There is no real work-life balance, and this management culture is simply hurting American workplace culture.

With the shift toward AI, we should no longer be relying on H-1B employees in the same way. We need to reduce unnecessary layers of management and put more resources into engineering - hiring and retaining people who can actually code, leverage AI effectively, and deliver results. We need fewer managers and more capable engineers who can build.


Walmart H1B hiring statistics

Here’s some alarming information. You’re gonna p-e yourself when you see how much Walmart is paying those H1B guys:

Total Filings: Historically filed over 21,500 total applications across multiple years, with about 3,545 H-1B LCAs filed in recent baseline annual cycles.

Salary Range: The median H-1B salary is approximately $136,000 to $145,703 depending on the fiscal year data, with 75% of salaries falling below $162,227.

Employee Base: Walmart employs over 2,000 H-1B visa holders, primarily concentrated in technology, engineering, and e-commerce positions.

Shame on Walmart for not paying its US associates at a similar rate.


H1 Tampa abuse - The End

The ideology in Citi Tampa is simple. Make Indians sit in director or SVP roles. Keep hiring Indians in h1b under them - promote those h1 Indians. No more h1 grace periods and no more h4 abuse whatsoever. Our governments message is crystal clear. Our kids spend 300 grand for their undergrad education and are jobless. Why give jobs away to outsiders and it’s a shame that our jobs have been taken away. No more exploitation in Citi Tampa.