Rumors down south are that there will be changes to benefits and enforcement of in office presence. Anyone have insights re pension changes from DB to DC or other? Elimination of EDOs?
Layoffs at Kearl
Who knows who all is going to be laid off at Kearl? Which positions,depts etc?
Relocation Survey
I thought the survey was supposed to come out today, am I mistaken?
Case for Change
How does XOM reconcile the narrative of "we need to collaborate and work next to each other" with the design to have remote support teams staffed with people who have no industry knowledge or communication skills? I don't question the case for... — read more
Speak out as a shareholder
Pretty well every employer is a shareholder. Speak out to the board and investor relations. If everyone floods them with messages showing disapproval as shareholders, the long term impact to the business they can’t ignore it. Even with exxon owning... — read more
Time to report IOL to regulators - engineering from non registered people in India
We are in massive non-compliance by getting engineering services from non-registered engineers from not only out of province, but out of the country. Report this while you can.
Am I the only one who simply doesn’t care anymore?
Lay me off or don’t, I don’t give a damn. I’ve been stressing so much and finally realized I’m destroying my health and for what? A company that’s happy to betray not just us but everything we used to stand for. I’m done with that. Yeah, losing my... — read more
Did you survive?
Curious which roles DID NOT recieve the dreaded severance estimate? Interested to get a feel for what was considered "out of scope". Don't have to get specific unless you feel comfortable doing so. Anyone else debating if there are even actual... — read more
Pension Adjustments and PAR
I just learned about this so want to share. If you're like me, you've likely had a large pension adjustment (PA) applied by the CRA every year only leaving you like $3-5k of RRSP room. The PA is calculated on your T4 each year and applied to the... — read more
Getting rid of people who know what they’re doing, again
The time will come, and judging by how things look very soon, when chasing cheap, unskilled labor will backfire. There’s only so much core knowledge and experience a company can drain before everything collapses. Sooner or later, corporations will... — read more
A Corporate Carol- Bah Humbug, you’re redundant
We must reduce the corporate surplus population!! What are the odds JW and DL were visited by the ghosts of Imperial Past, Present and Future this weekend?
⭐️ Friends, sharing this for everyone trying to estimate realistic severance ranges in Alberta energy sector.
Here are some examples of how courts have ruled on severance (reasonable notice) for long-service professionals, especially in Alberta’s oil & gas industry. Use these as reference points when estimating your own range. • O’Reilly v. Imperial Oil... — read more
Folks, we have way more power than they think...
This company does not care about you, and they think they can get rid of you in order to save costs. That is all this company cares about, is money. So, that is the way to make them hurt and feel some pain... We are all in positions where we can... — read more
Do not accept a demotion
Know that should they offer you a lesser role (lower level of responsibility, Supervisor to IC, etc) in Edmonton than you have today that could be deemed a demotion and also subject to constructive dismissal, and severance. Do not accept a demotion... — read more
Important Info : Severance Pay Calculation
I’m disappointed by severance estimate. Here’s how to get a high-level estimate using any AI tool, readymade script to use- • Permanent employee at Imperial Oil, based at Quarry Park Office. • Annual salary: $[X] • Current role: [Your Role] in... — read more
Definitely not worth breaking your back for any company
Especially not this one. I’ve been doing the bare minimum for a while now. The only times I’ve actually put in extra effort were to help a teammate in a bind. At least when I get the boot, I won’t have any regrets.
Cost reduction is a trap - signing your own layoff notice
Dark side - only way to survival They can only offshore things that are in perfect shape l, running smoothly, with cost targets achieved We learned that the hard way at Kearl and Cold Lake. We drove massive cost savings, brought the assets to... — read more
Canadians Deserve Better from Imperial Oil
Imperial Oil profits from Canada’s natural resources, while: Releasing emissions into our shared air, Firing Canadian workers, and Outsourcing jobs to India — all while Continuing to claim tax write-offs for foreign labour. This is... — read more
Object to Moving Soon or Forfeit Right to CD Claim
Google gemini helped me realize that if you are considering a constructive dismissal claim you likely want to consider working under protest within 10-15 days from the announcement. See below for more details. But if you don’t want to forfeit you... — read more
Severance Megathread
Severance estimates have been sent! 12y+, 70% of base salary. Working notice may be provided, nothing about RSUs.. What are your thoughts? Are you happy or disappointed? Will this impact your decision for the mobility survey?
IOL without XOM
ChatGPT Deep dive — Imperial Oil Ltd. (what it could’ve done if not constrained by majority stakeholder ExxonMobil) Insights • Peers (Shell, Suncor, Dow, Neste, Valero, global traders) show the pathway Imperial could have taken. • Imperial stayed... — read more
Severance amount
Starting this thread to compare severance amount. Affected employees supposed to start receiving estimate today. Severance estimate/year of service/current salary.
Lawyer
Anyone have an employment lawyer contact in Calgary who is not on retainer with IOL? Maybe we need to go outside Calgary? If you are a person who would like to leverage the guidance please respond.
Their plan
Imperial and the government are running the scam of the century. Lay off 1,000 people → claim it’s a “lack of projects” → pull in more contracts from the government → hand the work off to India. IOL’s lobbying team nailed it. Smith and the media are... — read more
Edmonton
So it seems that the majority of folks are planning to fake mobility to see what they are offered, even if they have no intent to move. Is this the play? If I declare immediately I am not mobile, and seek immediate severance, will I be severed... — read more
Everything feels like mass attrition
Every option on the table seems designed to make you quit, get you fired, or push you out in a layoff. Not even relocation looks like a saving grace if you manage to survive the cuts. It’s clear they just want to get rid of us and offshore everything... — read more
WFH arrangements - NOT!
It was asked if Imperial would consider work from home arrangements for those who are not able to relocate. The answer was a resounding NO - as the Company values collaboration which is most effectively achieved through face-to-face interaction... — read more
Porting 1 job = 1 person on social support
In Canada want to allow companies like Imperial Oil to port jobs to BTC and KLTC, then Canada needs to provide social safety net that will help us maintain our lifestyle. So, basically, I am saying Canada needs to tax companies that are porting... — read more
What a shame...
...it would be if some competitor comes to sn---h folks away from Imperial before they've had a chance to transition the work.
Total Compensation
Wonder if severance packages will have considerations against "total compensation". Thats what we've been told for years as why we are paid less overall. Wonder if there is some legal angle that leverages this.
BTC expats in Canada
Houston, Permian and gulf coast plants are being overrun by Indian expats. Does Canada have this same problem or are Canadian laws preventing it?
Real news - offshoring of jobs
Nothing more ridiculous than politicians using Imperial’s announcement as a distraction to blame each other for policies or tie Carney to Brookfield. No the campus is not being sold to Brookfield. It’s a local firm. Make sure they redirect back to... — read more
Relocations choice flow chart - beware
I’m sure everyone has seen the flow chart, no by the end of Oct and you get severance. Yes…if you don’t make the get, you get severed and get the same severance. Get offered a position and decline, you get severed and get the same severance. So it... — read more
The “advocacy office” is just the C-Suite
“Edmonton for thee ; not for me” . Has anyone asked the MC directly if they are moving ? It would be very awkward if someone did . Just sayin’. Whelan never left Calgary during his Houston grooming assignment either .
Considering the move BUT…
I’m considering accepting the move to Edmonton. My spouse doesn’t work, I don’t have family ties to Calgary, and my kids are young enough (with another on the way). I have enough savings to last me a few years, so the main issues I’m juggling in my... — read more
One user predicted... LOL
LOL: One user in a thread on thelayoff.com predicted how the company’s assets would be shifted around. His first prediction was that Calgary Quarry Park HQ would be sold to Brookfield. -... — read more
STOP & THINK - You will be okay!
The walls are crashing down around you. The future of a stable, well paying job, in a great city, is over. The vision of a lucrative nest egg is challenged. Your sense of identity and worth is compromised. Your doubts are setting in. But... — read more
CL $12/Bbl and Kearl $16/Bbl
Remember when they told us that if we help "them" get to $12 and $16 respectively at CL and Kearl all will be good and we will all be safe.....yeeeeeeeeahhh