#rto

Since people working in Charlotte were told to work from home Monday, does that count as one of our in office days? I had appointments scheduled midday Thursday and Friday since I was planned to work from home and there's no way I can make 8 hours in office those days.

Same old? Or will there be some major news? Maybe RTO requirements will be more lax?

Guys
any idea how are they tracking RTO? I hate 4-1
is coffee badging still doable?

Wendy Stewart (yuck) confirmed it today on a presentation call. Starting in March, it’s 5 days with 5 floaters a month. So, in typical arrogant banker talk, it’s more confusing than needs to be. It’s 4 days for 3 of the weeks in a month, and 3 days for one of the weeks, via the 5 floater days.

This place truly does su-k. No raises. No bonuses. Just cr-p.

Disappointed in the firm. Not only was I reimagined , received a demotion and changed from salary to hourly, but that put me into a category where my merit raise is about 1% and bonuses are half of what I used to get . Not to mention the force back to office 4 days a week, tracking your location when you open up documents. Since when did this turn into highschool?
Why is this happening? I have been at the firm a long time. Nothing like this has ever happened. So much for work life balance

I drove by Intel Rio Rancho today at 12:15 and the lot west of Fab 9 was open and not hardly parked up. Shouldn’t RTO be filling the prime parking areas? How parked up is your site (during lunch)?

And yes it doesn’t take a guy who doesn’t believe in things to see what it means that I wasn’t just parking there m’self.

Yes I know HD has nothing to do with our business and what we do. Just FYI, they announced mandatory 5-Day RTO. This may have already been posted, if so, my apologies.

Is your January report available to view yet?

I forgot my laptop at home and didn’t realize it until I got to the office. It’s kind of hilarious how there’s literally no work to do without it. No systems. No tools. Nothing.

Which exposes the flaw in the whole RTO and “collaboration” argument. If presence alone created value, being here would still matter without a laptop. But it doesn’t. All the actual work still happens digitally, exactly the same way it does at home.

If the office adds no functional capability beyond what a laptop provides, then forcing people to commute just to open the same apps on a different desk defeats the entire purpose.

Every one of the leaders should ask THEMSELVES this question and think about the “deposits” they’re making with the employee base. You have no “money in the bank” with the employees since you fuxed everyone over with 5 day RTO.

How many people have already left because of the return to office push?

Potential employee here. I know 5 days per week in office is the official policy, but is it actually enforced across 100% of teams? I know a lot of similar companies have RTO policies on paper, but they aren't policed. Thanks in advance;

Since that seems to be the goal. I wonder if it worked as intended, or if people, given the job market, are just trying hard to accommodate. I'm in the latter group. RTO is needlessly time-consuming, expensive, and it’s hard to see any reasonable explanation beyond pressuring people to quit. Coming into the office has made me less efficient, and nobody on my team is even nearby anyway. I’ve decided to go along with it for now while I look for another job. In this game of chicken, I'll let them be forced to lay me off. After so many years, I'm not leaving without a severance.

One, two, three
Two chairs—the music stops.
Follow the decree:
One of you will drop.

Central, East, West—
You’re safest in the middle.
This isn’t a test,
Or a well-thought riddle.

Experience used to matter.
Results were once measured.
Now talent’s grown scattered,
And good work? No longer treasured.

Does it end with you or me?
Customers first, the message repeats.
Hello, goodbye—latest casualty.
One less chair—fewer seats.

Did you see the culture survey?
Breakfast and mingle with leaders.
RTO and layoffs underplay
The truth beneath the speakers.

Am I the next to go?
Be cautious of the meeting.
Does anyone know
When comes the next reaping?

One, two, three—
Only one chair left.
You’ve been set free.
You can drop the heft.

Make this make sense.

We lay off people by requiring them to move to a Hub city at their own expense and reapply for their job (or they are declared surplus/laid off). Then, a year later, they are back as a contractor, and RTO doesn’t apply to contractors.

If it is so darn important to have everyone in an office, why aren’t we ALL in the office? Why doesn’t AT&T thrust their own employees, but is happy to let a third party person have access to the same systems and networks remotely full time?

So i told my manager I went home because there was no place to sit. The answer is to look at different days where not as many people are there. So we are supposed to go in to the office to collaborate with people but we are supposed to pick days when people aren’t there. Make it make sense.

Hired 2 years ago as full time employee remote. I am being required to RTO even though I was never in the office. I was hired as a remote employee. The nearest office is at least 80 minutes away at 4 A.M. on a Sunday morning. Easily 2+ hours each way during the work week. I can't afford the commute costs. I can't afford the approx 18+ hours per week just to commute. I give 45-50 hours of my time per week but only get paid for 40. Now I gotta devote upwards of 70 hours per week to this company (work + commute). Going into the office means I must change my work location for tax purposes so as my luck would have it I get sc--wed on that too. More taxes on the same work I've been doing for 2 years. I know I should only be working 40 hours but if I don't then the work starts to get backed-up. Our team could use more help. We are down 1 person since rto was announced. Cant imagine finding more help let alone even finding one individual after Pnc announced this terrible rto decision. What was wrong with the remote work? If it ain't broke don't fix it. It seems like the executives couldn't bear to witness remote work functioning so well that they needed to do something about it. and like many others have voiced if I were to go into the office 60% of my day would be on teams calls. My first 10 contacts I ask for help/collaborate with aren't even in my state.
Please someone make it make sense.

do we need to protest or unionize just to have a voice. this su-ks

https://www.businessinsider.com/stellantis-return-to-office-5-days-us-staff-rto-2026-1

Every WFH request has to be reviewed now and approved by our CEO himself. Little baby Lord Farqaad throwing a tantrum because his servants didn’t want to risk their lives coming into the office. Heard there were multiple injuries be they didn’t bother to treat the parking lots. Pathetic.

Hi all

I don't work in IBM but an ex IBM guy is taking over where I work and RTO has been announced

Just wondering is it enforced at IBM ? Is there a min number of hours on site or can you just leave whenever
Thanks

We all did the five-day commute for years without this much fuss. Yeah, WFH is nicer, but going to an office is what we all signed up for originally. I don't get why it's such a shock to the system now. It's just a return to normal.

It all points to one thing. They're creating a work environment so toxic that many of us will decide to leave instead of suffer through it. It's all planned. Why pay severance if you don't have to? Make it unbearable for folks to work and they'll leave for free. A--holes.

Just read that Home Depot did a layoff and had an RTO of 5 days a week.......do we think Fiddelke will announce an RTO? I could see it happening as a way to continue eliminating roles rather than doing mass layoffs????

Any news on additional flexibility regarding RTO as mentioned by M.?

As pointed out on glassdoor a couple weeks ago {https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-PNC-Financial-Services-Group-E507-RVW102269233.htm} this whole RTO5 will be very expensive for us. Min $20/day parking. If you can find parking. Need to buy a vehicle? Do you have to hire a babysitter? Daycare? Cancel your evening plans because of traffic. None of this RTO5 makes life any easier for us or the public. And let's be real nobody wants to sit in an overcrowded office and listen to other people scream on teams calls all day. I could go on and on. This RTO5 may as well be called a pay cut. And like clockwork there is high certainty the C-level folks will see some sort of compensation boost before end of year. "Hey thanks for agreeing with my RTO policy and fu--ing over our loyal employees. Our board thought it would be nice to offer you a bucket of PNC shares."

#RallyToOppose
#ResistTheOrder
#ReasonToOrganize

In case people have not heard the directors of several LOBs have granted remote work during the time when everything in Minneapolis is going down.

Anyone else heard of this? Are they really going to go back to 1 week return to office? Heard from someone that works in HR

When HR 5 day in office required?

Why HR getting free pass to do nothing all day, every day.

Mods pulled xxon post saying they have issues with unassigned space.

How about the mangers stop saving spaces and tell us where we can and can’t sit.

It’s first come first serve. Thats the whole model

So far, I participated in two calls today. There were multiple presenters/speakers on each call. None of which were RTO including the majority of attendees for these two calls. I know these individuals & I am very familiar with the BU's. This RTO business sure is interesting. Lol

Could’ve saved billions, but now we’re spending billions on new offices and campuses for no reason.

The biggest reason is general idiocracy, but publicly showing Wall Street and all of your employees how incompetent the CEO and entire C-Suite is, is another thing.

Can’t wait for the Nursing Home earnings call tomorrow to hear Sleepy Stank ramble about how this is employees’ faults.

I’m seeing the requirements get more and more scrutiny lately. Wondering if anyone’s heard any rumblings…

Anyone in HR/IT/security know if they’re tracking time spent in office or if badging in is enough?

Email from KS today doubling down on RTO. Wow.

It looks like one is now available

I see the new update, with the new dashboard on MySource highlighting exactly your in office exceptions seperate from other time off (e.g. holidays/sick).

Anyone have any insight on how the monitoring may change? Guessing there will be increased focus on the in-office exceptions.

If you’re going to force everyone into the office five days a week, can you at least turn the heat on? People are sitting at their desks in coats, winter hats, and gloves. That’s not exaggeration either.

You made the RTO decision, not employees. If the company doesn’t want to pay to make the buildings habitable, then revert the policy. Forcing people to commute just to freeze inside an office is beyond ridiculous and completely self-inflicted.

Rachael Clark told her group a few weeks ago that the bank is letting MN folks work from home until January 30, but she expected that to be extended. Has anyone heard if that has changed?

The commute will be a pain, but being in the office will create a hard stop to my workday. In a way, it might even get me to have a healthier work-life balance than I do now remotely.

So remotes within the radius will be RTO before Jan 2027

What about remotes over the 31 miles ?