#advice

How long did it take for the toxicity to leave your system? When did the happiness start again in your life? I'm going though the 5 stages, but can already tell I am much more calm and don't need the bottle anymore. I'm thinking it just gets better from here. Money? Yep need that, and it is inducing some stress into my life, but it feels much different than the environment at work while I was there.
At least on the money side, I can take personal action to fix it. The office environment? Nope. Just had to endure.....

Anyone has a side line of work, a business???

How do you manage to do it?

Is it even possible given the amount of work we have?

Any advice?

Laid off on Mon after 6 mo in tech sales... Dell overhired, new leader cut over half the team... now 40% of the group that started with me is gone.

I outsold the 3 peers from my start cohort who were kept.... This now feels targeted. Feels like the mgr did not like me.

she told me she lovd working with me and said I was good at my job. That stings. I suspect she had some say in who stayed. I know resentment hurts me more than them but it is hard to switch off.

Questions for people on this blog:

Have you been through this??

What helped you move past the anger???

How long did it take before the sting faded??

I was impacted and reading everyone’s threads has been both reassuring and sad. Thank you to everyone for sharing openly and honestly— when work culture suffers from toxic leadership and snuffs our ability to have actual community and honest conversation about the company we work(ed) for, we came here— I’m glad for that. I also am not using “toxic leadership” to score a hit— it’s a real construct with indicators and impact. Reading about it might help you put more objective (sorry for this term) language to what you’re experiencing.

If you’re still at Gartner, I do not envy you. I would prefer to still be working there rather than be unemployed, but I also can’t imagine what it was like/is like to be making calls and selling people on a place you can no longer trust. That would be hard.

My advice to those currently recruiting would be to not trust internal communications about Gartner performance. Remember that it benefits them to make you believe we are doing well. This makes us more effective sellers. I was an effective seller, and I am left feeling guilty for selling people on a lie- I put them in a position to experience what I have just gone through.

Trust what you are seeing with stock prices and quiet layoffs, and make a plan for if things change quickly. I had no plan, and I am paying for it now- the best I can do now is to suggest it to others.

If you’re a well-intentioned leader and you’re reading this, please know that I (and others) understand that you passed down the information you were given, which was the misleading “Gartner is doing great” speak that was all but smashed over our heads in the Q2 town hall. The best you can do is to not repeat this kind of speech to your teams: it leads to us being unprepared. We also get enough of it already through the carefully crafted corporate comms that reassure us we are a great company at all times. You don’t have to add your voice if you know there’s risk ahead for your people.

I will never get to speak to those who intentionally misled people who make 5% of their salary. Those most senior leaders manufactured security through talk tracks and inside Gartner emails that assured us of growth and opportunity, while designing layoffs in private. They do not know you and do not care about you. They will end your healthcare at midnight and give you four weeks of severance, all while telling you “when we do the right thing, great results will follow.”

Be very cautious, whether you’re still there or not. Have a plan. I am still most grateful for the people who did work ethically and without acting like Gartner gave a damn beyond the bottom line.

Considering on joining the company. May I get the 2025 good and bad info on working at the company please? Any words of wisdom will help me decide if this is a good fit for me.
Thank you all!

I know some are and some are not, just want to see if people can share some experiences. No names please.

I see so many people just walking away, and it makes me so angry. You’re doing them a favor! Make them lay you off! Make them pay you! Don’t do exactly what they want with everything they’ve been doing and the toxic atmosphere they’ve created. Why? Why would you do something like that?

Anyone ever make a startup company? I'm looking for advice,
Leases and drilling are really crazy expensive to carry on my savings alone, how did you find investors?
What do you wish you knew before you started?

I once had a claim manager tell me my house will be my retirement. I laughed at him and politely walked away. I retired early and got 50 to 60% of the pension. That was well over 10 years ago. Make your own plans. Listen to your heart and never let them control your future. You are in charge of yourself and know claims will take your health. Don't let them do it!

Know that should they offer you a lesser role (lower level of responsibility, Supervisor to IC, etc) in Edmonton than you have today that could be deemed a demotion and also subject to constructive dismissal, and severance.

Do not accept a demotion. Consult a lawyer before your accept a job.

I’m disappointed by severance estimate. Here’s how to get a high-level estimate using any AI tool, readymade script to use-
• Permanent employee at Imperial Oil, based at Quarry Park Office.
• Annual salary: $[X]
• Current role: [Your Role] in [Function/Department]
• Continuous service: [X years]
• Defined benefit plan: [1.5% / 2%], RRSP/401k match: [X%]
• Location: [City / Office]
• Performance Rank : [X/4]

Context to consider:
• Mass layoffs, office closures, relocation of remaining employees
• Local unemployment rate, industry outlook, company financial health
• Comprehensive benefits package

How to estimate severance:

1.  Factor in years of service, age, position, rank, and contract terms
2.  Add bonus, retirement contributions, benefits continuation
3.  Adjust for industry and location context

All consider additional factors, past legal cases examples.
Estimate my severance pay.

Does TIAA favor internal transfers versus external applicants? Looking to do a lateral move, I don't see any openings for the position I want, but figured I'd want to network with the manager to let them know I'm interested. Has anyone transferred internally that can provide any recommendation/tips on what they did? Worried that if I apply and don't get the role, then my boss would know that I'm looking to transition out of my current role.

1. Your boss is not your friend
2. Who you know beats what you know (building a network and nurturing it consistently is critical to success
3. You are REPLACEABLE at Work NOT home (In 20 years the only people who will REMEMBER you worked late are your kids, family and loved ones
   4.Loyalty rarely two-way street,in hard times will won't be returned
   5.Time is scare than Money. We can re-earn money but never Time
4. Comfort ki-ls Progress (You grow when you take Risks, Not when you play Safe. Please finish items 7,8,9,10 and so forth...by adding harsh career truths :)

Sorry I didn't post this before more layoffs. While your manager is giving you the news, disconnect immediately from the internet. They can't scramble your laptop if they can't get to it. I was laid off on September 3rd. I've had access to my files all this time. I just got my box, so I'll go on the internet now and let them scramble it.

that's what this company is taught us: never work hard for them, never go the extra mile, absolutely do not try hard. only do the bare minimum because they're going to lay you off no matter what

35+ years in the industry, across several banks. I’ve seen it all. What’s happening now feels like the complete dismantling of banking as a business, a service, and an institution. Working in this industry has never been worse: more stressful, less rewarding, and utterly demoralizing. I doubt it’s any better at other banks. I’m close to retirement, so I no longer care much. But for younger folks, here’s my advice: don’t expect a career, don’t invest yourself too deeply, and don’t think hard work and skills will pay off. If you still have time, change lanes.

It's crazy how many scammers are on Indeed and Linked-in.

Is there a safer way to apply for jobs? The only way I can think of is to go directly to employer websites or via word of mouth from folks in your network.

What are others finding out there in terms of using job search sites such as Indeed and Linked-In?

Do not let anyone gaslight you into thinking constant layoffs are normal. This is not normal.

They will use you and dispose of you with a layoff notice approximately five days after a contract you were hired to support ends or funding inexpertly gets cut. You are given less time now to find another internal job at Booz Allen before you are issued a layoff notice. There are hundreds of employees in this position at any given time, and their desperation shows, and mostly likely their mental health is affected too. After receiving a layoff notice, you can forget about Networking, to help you find a new position inside the company while the days count down before you are laid off. The reason for this is that IT shuts down your computer so you can no longer network using emails to reach out to managers you do not know or access the internal networks at Booz Allen to help you find another internal job at Booz Allen before your last day.

Buyer beware when accepting a job offer at Booz Allen.

I’m considering accepting the move to Edmonton. My spouse doesn’t work, I don’t have family ties to Calgary, and my kids are young enough (with another on the way). I have enough savings to last me a few years, so the main issues I’m juggling in my head are:

1. We were told future expat assignments will be significantly reduced.
2. Imperial employees will only work on Canadian asset related tasks (no global projects or global roles.)
3. Anyone in Canada working non-Canada projects will have their role eliminated.
4. Principal and Senior Principal roles will be shifted to Houston and no longer available to Imperial employees.
5. US expats will continue to come to Canada and take senior leadership positions at sites and any Cat.1/2 projects.

The entire charm of working at IOL was the fact that you had a “career” and would progress through the career with the sky as the limit. A high performer could end up working global initiatives and ultimately could even become a VP at Exxon. Now, there is a limit… and it’s sub- principal level (which isn’t super high to begin with). What motive (other than bi-weekly pay) do I have to stay with imperial?

Please tell me I am misunderstanding this? Have we become secretaries/admin for Houston and Bangalore folks? If so, F-ck this company - I refuse to drop my potential to their level.

This is a genuine request, and I'd appreciate honest (not snarky) feedback. What would you do if your boss revealed that layoffs were imminent and your team might be affected? It might not be everyone, but it could be. Which is surprising, as we've already had several team members leave. But apparently, that doesn't 'count'. Alas, the 'powers that be' don't view our reporting work as 'valuable' - more like 'oh, that can be done with AI' or some other assumption that diminishes the complexity of what's required. I've been down this path before... and somehow survived by various means. Should I apply for other opportunities at AT&T? Please note that I enjoy my current role. I like my boss. But those above him aren't cool. Am I jumping from the frying pan into the fire? Please note: I'm nearing retirement age and want to make the most of my time.

If you people don't think they are whittling the company down to make it look amazing on a balance sheet for an eventual sale, you're going to be blindsided when it happens. Don't trust them or what they say. Keep your bills low and your lifestyle in check, you haven't even begun to see the hard times yet.

There is risk of fire, explosions, hazardous gas release and much more in refineries. Putting office workers on this site to save a corporate lease is asinine.

Make no mistake, this company does not give a sh-t about you, your health, or your family. Think about this before you move.

I've been following the discussions here closely and noticed some concerning comments about moderators, allegedly connected to Citi removing truthful posts from this site. If these claims are true, it's a serious attempt to suppress the truth.
My advice is to protect yourself and the information you're sharing. Take screenshots of your posts before they potentially disappear. Save everything as evidence.
If you're comfortable, consider taking further action. Anonymously send these screenshots to a major news reporter or investigative journalist. Exposing this kind of alleged corruption publicly could hold Citi accountable for their actions and reveal the truth about what's really happening.

I still have my job at TI, but this layoff makes me really understand the revolving door rumors I've heard about TI forever now. I got hired into TI straight out of school and have been here for a few years now. Is my job experience at TI normal to expect from other companies? I'm on the test/validation team of a product line, so I feel pigeon-holed into semiconductor places with lack of design experience.

For those who've been laid off, I honestly want to congratulate you and hope your searches have gone well.

Hi, does anyone know if they are hiring or plan to hire new college graduates?

Myself and classmates have applied to dozens of positions across various departments but can not get an interview at this company (even positions that don't require a college degree). It is one of the few FinTech companies in our area.

(3.5+ GPAs, STEM/Finance degrees, US citizens, 30 minute commute.)

Or if anyone knows what type of candidates they are currently looking for, that would be very helpful!

Thank you

any contractors on this site, if yes, what's top of your mind and what options we have now that sh-t has hit the fan

I've seen some folks reporting 3 weeks per year of tenure and for short-term employees numbers seems to be smaller. I also see that some are reporting that lawyers are advising them to sign. Just curious if we can consolidate what we know about severance for this round of cuts so we can have it here archived for future layoff rounds (I wish I asked this last time too)...

Many people say “just leave” as if it were simple. It is not. The market is crowded, and unless you have a highly sought-after skill set, finding something new can take months. Begin lining up another opportunity while you are still employed, as that is the only real safety net.

To those affected by the last round of layoffs, Kroger is planned to offer severance.

Personally I was in KTD but they are offering 1 month per yr and x percent on your bonus plus any remaining time off.

I expect to receive the documents soon so I don't know how this effects unemployment claims. Please check your state and read before you sign anything or get a lawyer first.

26 weeks of part pay is a plus but it may be less than your severance so you may need to pick.

Be advised they are not withholding taxes on your severance so account for that yourself or your lawyer (preferred).

Almost every single 40 something CL28 I talk to is being told they have executive potential. DO NOT BELIEVE IT! There will be very few promotions to 29+ especially as the company continues to shrink and offshore jobs to the BTC. The company is luring to you because they need you around a little longer while they ramp up the BTC. It is a LIE to keep you working at ExxonMobil until you are older and have fewer options outside the company. By 2030 the truth will become apparent but by that time it will be too late for you to find another job due to age discrimination. Do not believe their lies and do not delay your exit while you are still young enough to find another job and move on. Even a temporary pay reduction is worth it. In a few years you will be making more especially when considering they are planning below inflation raises for the foreseeable future. #Exxodus

I was trying to get clarifications on detail breakup of Severance Pay Formula from HR. Pointed to Non VPN Access: [External Ask HR Portal]- https://hrhelp.custhelp.com/

Once I get the detail breakup of unused vacation, formula used for final payout, I will fight for a few days

Please bookmark & that will save you 3 days for a normal reply from HR Via E-Mail

I have a meeting with HR tomorrow and I don't know why. All my stats are good, meets+ for sure.

Any advice?

Just imagine being laid off and having to deal with a job market that's incredibly hostile to employees. Yes, Chevron su-ks. It's not the company it once was. Working here is far from great. But at least you're working. A former coworker who was laid off more than six months ago is still unemployed. He'd trade any of you without thinking.

I've seen so many posts on here that seem to rally against the DE&I efforts at the firm. Diversity, Equity & Inclusion should be a good thing! The issue which I think is often misconstrued on here (and yes there are quite a few bigots on this platform as well) is that there are so many people at the firm that appear to be FAKE when it comes to DE&I.

You can’t call yourself a leader if no one grows when you’re around.

Layoffs have continues across 2025 along with DEI grandstanding on the part of Christa Quarles and more reorgs:

• Sr. Directors across the org has been laid-off that one were the product directors
• More people from Marketing have are gone
• Engineers across the company based on tenor or so-called no culture fit for those in Mauritius
• Michelle Chiantera is no longer the CRO/CFO, she is now back to the CRO
• Waiting to see if Jason Royer SVP Finance will land the CFO title that was held by Jeff Byal, then given to Michelle Chiantera and taken away.

Since Christa started at Corel she has gaslighted everything and everyone. She was all about DEI except it's just talk. She is all about finding the right public opportunities with the aim of crafting a savvy persona. While she managed to cozy up for a photo-op with Martin Luther King III, it's pretty clear she has no interest in MKL's legacy. Brown American employees don't last and she only connects to brown people that have a c-level title. Try volunteering with an organization that is actually helping people with families like those you've laid off or go visit the National Civil Rights Museum rather than so-called volunteering at some Marketing (=more money). place.

Yes, more layoffs and consolidation to come. If you have performed your job and matured your practice, you will not last at Alludo. Your job will be given to someone else.

Keep your resume up-to-date.

Hey folks,
There is a difference between anonymous and confidential.
People are being called out for their opinions on the survey.
Do not participate in Glint surveys anymore .
BTW... I’ve never had a face to face one on one. Another total waste of time.
The problem Nordstrom created...
No one is being trained... because they believe anyone can do your job, and you are disposable ... So we receive wages accordingly with no raises.
OBTW... inflation is crippling your loyal workers. The replacements for those skilled workers are people who should have never been hired, but are never trained.
You are not investing in your employees...
And treating them like....

I work hard and my performance is really good. My peers and my manager agree on that. I don‘t do politics or engage in rumor-spreading. I trust the board and express this view publicly and in the Employee Survey.

There is no reason SAP should let me go.

I think I am safe.

If you do as I do, you should also be safe.