#slack

Three long-term IBM employees allege they were fired to make way for younger hires, citing a "smoking-g-n" Slack message as evidence. The complaint details internal documents that allegedly labeled older workers with derogatory terms and outlined plans to hire a majority of "Early Professionals" and "Campus Hires." This lawsuit claims IBM has a pattern of age-based workforce reductions, referencing past investigations and internal language used to target senior staff. The workers are seeking back pay, lost benefits, and reinstatement or front pay. These allegations have not yet been proven in court.

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https://www.hcamag.com/us/specialization/employment-law/stray-slack-message-allegedly-exposed-ibms-plan-to-replace-older-workers/590539

they just lock everything and thats it no communication wow !
slack is already down by about 4k person

This is the lowest slack count its been in months. Even if they don't do mass layoffs, Oracle is definitely trending downward. I'm on a development team for a business unit piloting even more AI automation tools. End to end autonomous development is the direction Oracle wants to move to! From AI lunch and learns it appears like they even want POs to write requirements and acceptance criteria that is fed into AI + governance systems which will deliver POCs if not fully compliant features into legacy systems without engineers directly involved

• 300 on slack in the last hour … maybe end of month changes but it will be confirmed if the number reach 500+

very sad day, people I use to look upto got laid off, including my manager!

Did someone in IT give us a heads up like the open slack channel on the other RIF? Viva la resistance!!!!!

Looks like mails started coming for india. I see a fresh comment on slack with the mention of impacted by layoff. All the best everyone.

Last week slack had 26,800+

It made it 3 hours before it got deleted lol

I got a screen shot. Savage and hilarious 😂

Tracking participants count #general Slack channel in Oracle One workspace, as the fastest available proxy indication of ongoing layoffs.

• jul01-jul31: 2975 reductions, 1736 additions, 151101 (-1239) end count
• jun01-jun30: 1723 reductions, 1299 additions, 152340 (-424) end count
• may01-may31: 2271 reductions, 942 additions, 152764 (-1329) end count
• apr01-apr30: 2286 reductions, 1583 additions, 154093 (-703) end count
• mar01-mar31: 12446 reductions, 844 additions, 154796 (-11602) end count
• feb01-feb28: 943 reductions, 1143 additions, 166398 (+200) end count
• jan01-jan31: 1604 reductions, 1834 additions, 166198 (+230) end count
• dec01-dec31: 1119 reductions, 844 additions, 165968 (-275) end count
• nov01-nov30: 1614 reductions, 1310 additions, 166243 (-304) end count
• oct01-oct31: 2498 reductions, 1768 additions, 166547 (-730) end count
• sep02-sep30: 6380 reductions, 861 additions, 167277 (-5519) end count
• aug14-sep01: 733 reductions (based on Slack very few data points), 172796 (-733) end count
• aug01-aug14: ?2900 reductions in IDC (based on media reports), 173529 (-2900) end count

Limitations of these stats are covered in detail in comments.
I will post daily in comments on the count change and running current month total.

There is a troll trying to impersonate me and post fake Slack stats; protection measures are covered in the first comment.
My public key used to prove identity: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIPh3BL62QOGXk95TzS980uSckZd1M5YPGqouR0iHWumB slack-stats

Without offering too much, I am on the wireless side. I am not a tech or an engineer or a manager and I have not been in an office since covid.

I don't have a crystal ball but I can track patterns and have an instinct when the patterns tell me something is brewing.

For the first time since I have been with Verizon, on the day before a holiday, any holiday, we did not get an email wishing us a happy holiday and we did not get an early release.

I've never expected it but it has also never not happened. A break in the pattern.

In fact, I did not see a single meeting scheduled nor did I get a single email or slack message from anyone about anything.

More than once I thought my network connection had dropped but I did see a green dot next to the most of the people on my team other than the manager.

Did anyone else experience this and does this seem odd?

Silence is deafening sometimes.

I am glad people are here though. Even the trolls.

Tracking participants count #general Slack channel in Oracle One workspace, as the fastest available proxy indication of ongoing layoffs.

• jun01-jun30: 1723 reductions, 1299 additions, 152340 (-424) end count
• may01-may31: 2271 reductions, 942 additions, 152764 (-1329) end count
• apr01-apr30: 2286 reductions, 1583 additions, 154093 (-703) end count
• mar01-mar31: 12446 reductions, 844 additions, 154796 (-11602) end count
• feb01-feb28: 943 reductions, 1143 additions, 166398 (+200) end count
• jan01-jan31: 1604 reductions, 1834 additions, 166198 (+230) end count
• dec01-dec31: 1119 reductions, 844 additions, 165968 (-275) end count
• nov01-nov30: 1614 reductions, 1310 additions, 166243 (-304) end count
• oct01-oct31: 2498 reductions, 1768 additions, 166547 (-730) end count
• sep02-sep30: 6380 reductions, 861 additions, 167277 (-5519) end count
• aug14-sep01: 733 reductions (based on Slack very few data points), 172796 (-733) end count
• aug01-aug14: ?2900 reductions in IDC (based on media reports), 173529 (-2900) end count

Limitations of these stats are covered in detail in comments.
I will post daily in comments on the count change and running current month total.

There is a troll trying to impersonate me and post fake Slack stats; protection measures are covered in the first comment.
My public key used to prove identity: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIPh3BL62QOGXk95TzS980uSckZd1M5YPGqouR0iHWumB slack-stats

Anyone has a clue where we are with the latest layoffs wave? I can see Slack count increased today by 200+. Still no idea what happens in EMEA after Cz layoffs, complete silence.

I am waiting for the count to be < 5 soon

In a very small team somebody always ends up carrying the dead weight because the release dates do not move. I carried a complete slacker for a long time... everybody knew he was a slacker too mgmt t knew entire team knew and othing changed.

the problem is that in small teams, one person not pulling their weight does not just stay their problem it spills into everyone else’s life. Alaways longer hours and more stress. Missed time with family because of this retart. Burnout + resentment. And because the deadlines are real the relible people end up absorbing the damage while the slacker just keeps floating along. What made things worse was all the 2ndary drama and problems that came with this bozo . It stopped being just a work issue and started causing actual life stress outside work - so you know how that goes.... And after enough time u stop feeling angry and just start feeling exhausted that everyone can clearly see the problem but nobody with authority is willing to deal with it.

I got lucky as he left just about three years into this.

Eh.

It seems no one has mentioned layoffs in the First Friday Slack channel. People usually say or inquire about it. Only the sycophants were sending messages, it seems.

Tracking participants count #general Slack channel in Oracle One workspace, as the fastest available proxy indication of ongoing layoffs.

• apr01-apr30: 2286 reductions, and 1583 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• mar01-mar31: 12446 reductions, and 844 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• feb01-feb28: 943 reductions, and 1143 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• jan01-jan31: 1604 reductions, and 1834 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• dec01-dec31: 1031 reductions, and 844 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• nov01-nov30: 1614 reductions, and 1327 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• oct01-oct31: 2504 reductions, 1762 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• sep02-sep30: 6275 reductions, 861 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• aug14-sep01: 733 reductions (based on Slack very few data points)
• aug01-aug14: ?2900 reductions in IDC (based on media reports)

Regions outside IDC and NA usually have a significant delay when laid off people are disconnected from Slack (e.g. 1 month in Pacific regions, perhaps longer in some EU countries), so this is a floor estimate with additions reflected immediately, but reductions lagging behind on average.

What is called "layoff estimates" are partially part of normal attrition, limitations are covered in details in comments.

I will post daily in comments on the count change and running current month total while this post is still on the first page.

I have just checked Slack, and the current number is 154,780 people. I will review it again once I begin my workday.

Truly fascinating how some people are able to identify every problem in the company with surgical precision, yet somehow remain here…contributing to all of them.

If we ever bottled the energy spent on complaining, predicting layoffs, and re-litigating leadership decisions from behind a keyboard, we’d probably solve margin pressure overnight.

It’s impressive really, how “culture” is always something management breaks, never something we all participate in.

And the confidence required to critique leadership while never having led anything beyond a Slack thread debate is honestly elite-level consistency.

At some point, you have to wonder if the issue isn’t the company…but the subscription.

Anyway, if all that energy got rotated into literally anything productive, $NKE would be at ATHs just off vibes alone

I saw a linkedin post about a NetSuite SC getting laid off. The slack numbers haven't really dropped below 154K

What's going on with mangers suddenly no longer providing any recognition even when you do extra work that's not even yours? My boss sent a "thumbs up" emoji on a Slack message last Thursday, and that's the closest I've gotten to a thank you since last year.

Curious where it's at...

The personalities of slack at Nike:

1. JR - responds to every and each question in COP and AI channels

2. DM - pretty much has her own store in Alt Class

3. JM - posts every shoe drop in sneaker channels, the good and the bad

4. Van - everyone getting heart broken over drops that have a lower win rate than SNKRs

5. EV - daily complaining that people aren’t charging their cars or stayed over time limit acting like it will make a difference

Can’t imagine the amount of time wasted in some of these channels.

What else?

Aria
MS - 82722
CM - 25132
LE - 59554

Total - 167408

Slack - 154590

In a month or so, Aria should reconcile with Slack numbers. From what I have noticed, largely the recent retrenchment was from LE's org which adds credibility to my previous suspicion that the entire org under LE including Db and Fusion is being readied to be spun off into a separate entity or sold to a private equity firm by FY26.

again during the night another 1k dropped on slack , maybe its late accounts disabling , about 13k + since the last week .

157,193

I will not go into details but several slack accounts have been deactivated on dev teams in the past hour

Tracking participants count #general Slack channel in Oracle One workspace, as the fastest available proxy indication of ongoing layoffs.

This round of mass layoff started on Mar24-25 according to Slack totals and it's sustained. I have to start a new thread, because our resident troll started counterfeiting Slack totals and trends again on the first page.

• mar01-mar28: 1618 layoffs, and 746 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• feb01-feb28: 943 layoffs, and 1143 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• jan01-jan31: 1604 layoffs, and 1834 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• dec01-dec31: 1031 layoffs, and 844 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• nov01-nov30: 1614 layoffs, and 1327 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• oct01-oct31: 2504 layoffs, 1762 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• sep02-sep30: 6275 layoffs, 861 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• aug14-sep01: 733 layoffs (based on Slack very few data points)
• aug01-aug14: ?2900 layoffs in IDC (based on media reports)

Regions outside IDC and NA usually have a significant delay when laid off people are disconnected from Slack (e.g. 1 month in Pacific regions, perhaps longer in some EU countries), so this is a floor estimate with additions reflected immediately, but reductions lagging behind on average.

Layoff estimates are partially part of normal attrition, but the other part of normal attrition is already hidden due to additions and removals compensate each other when they happen at the same period of time. Strictly speaking what is called "layoffs" here are just "reductions" in totals.

I will post daily in comments on the count change and running current month total while this post is still on the first page.

layoffs are happening , the general channel numbers are dropping very fast today didnt count but its about 250-300+

If you have not heard, webex is going away! No we are using Google meets and management said, "you must have your camera on, no exceptions". One person was driving in and dialed into the meeting and the director demanded the person pull over and turn his phone camera on. Another person did not respond to a slack message within 15 min.. (they were on a break) and the manger and and director said it was not acceptable because they had slack on their phone and should have responded, ON THEIR BREAK.... but yet customers are ignored! This is getting out of hand! Dan, OH DAN... where are you DAN...? Where is your delight the customer focus DAN? We don't see it, all we see is show your face on Google Meets and slack is your life!

Tracking participants count #general Slack channel in Oracle One workspace, as the fastest available proxy indication of ongoing layoffs.

• mar01-mar07: 351 layoffs, and 43 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• feb01-feb28: 943 layoffs, and 1143 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• jan01-jan31: 1604 layoffs, and 1834 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• dec01-dec31: 1031 layoffs, and 844 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• nov01-nov30: 1614 layoffs, and 1327 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• oct01-oct31: 2504 layoffs, 1762 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• sep02-sep30: 6275 layoffs, 861 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• aug14-sep01: 733 layoffs (based on Slack very few data points)
• aug01-aug14: ?2900 layoffs in IDC (based on media reports)

Regions outside IDC and NA usually have a significant delay when laid off people are disconnected from Slack (e.g. 1 month in Pacific regions, perhaps longer in some EU countries), so this is a floor estimate with additions reflected immediately, but reductions lagging behind on average.

Layoff estimates are partially part of normal attrition, but the other part of normal attrition is already hidden due to additions and removals compensate each other when they happen at the same period of time.

I will post daily in comments on the count change and running current month total while this post is still on the first page.

From 168,783 10am est to 166,465 as of 5pm est time

Here are Verizon Wireless's senior management PRIORITIES and nowhere will you find the customer!

1- SLACK! You will be ON SLACK at all times, it's the number one priority of directors and senior directors. 2 - You WILL show your FACE on WebEx. No more hiding... turn your camera on or else the wrath of directors and senior directors will come down on you with a screaming hissy fit. 3 - Wash and repeat 1 and 2, don't mind the customer!.. Just tell them you are sorry you are busy on SLACK and showing your face on WebEx... you will have to get back to them later when you can pull yourself away from Slack and showing your face on WebEx.

Tracking participants count #general Slack channel in Oracle One workspace, as the fastest available proxy indication of ongoing layoffs.

• dec01-dec31: 1031 layoffs, and 844 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• nov01-nov30: 1614 layoffs, and 1327 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• oct01-oct31: 2504 layoffs, 1762 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• sep02-sep30: 6275 layoffs, 861 additions (based on Slack regular tracking)
• aug14-sep01: 733 layoffs (based on Slack very few data points)
• aug01-aug14: ?2900 layoffs in IDC (based on media reports)

Regions outside IDC and NA usually have a significant delay when laid off people are disconnected from Slack (e.g. 1 month in Pacific regions, perhaps longer in some EU countries), so this is a floor estimate with additions reflected immediately, but reductions lagging behind on average.

I will post daily in comments on the count change and running current month total while this post is still on the first page.

P.S. Happy New Year!